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  8. tjm
    yeah but them trebles in the side don't harm the lips. Two or more hooks would also spread the force used over a larger area?
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  11. snagged in outlet 3
    I’ve seen this before like a train in a tunnel. 😁. Please continue, @fishinwrench is ready. Crank baits and stick baits really put the hurt on em.
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  18. fishinwrench
    Who designed those critters anyway? The most important muscle/cartiledge to its survival....and it's as delicate as tissue paper. We probably shouldn't be dragging them upstream against their will by it either. "Land them quickly," they say. But wait a minute.... don't put too much stress on that lip ! Maybe you shouldn't use anything heavier than 7x because putting more pressure than 1.8lbs. on that lip could cause severe deformation. It's better to let them break you off, don't ya think? I get that you care about not harming the fish, we all do, but let's try not to get overly stupid about it. Nobody should ever preach "Take a kid fishing" after they've seen how kids handle fish.
  19. tjm
    Gee. if older smarter more challenging fish are wanted go after carp. Required C&R is discrimination against bait fishers. That should be left up to the individual.
  20. Dutch
    Probably, but Tom and his crew sure do good work.
  21. dgilchrist
    Fortunately, almost all our rivers have strictly catch and release zones so those who want to target older fish have a chance at catching big ones. Not yesterdays truck trout. Plenty of catch out holes full of 10' fish for those who just fish to fill a frying pan.
  22. dgilchrist
    Here's an article from the Colorado Trout Biologist about proper handling techniques. You can find the same principles promoted by most State Game & Fish Trout biologists and more highly regulated trout waters all over the US and the world for that matter. It's not Holier Than Thou attitude. It's about being good sportsmen and respecting the resources we all share and enjoy. Trout should be handled and released in a way that affords them the best chance for survival No matter the species (brown, brook, rainbow, golden or cutthroat), the trout is one of the most fragile of all the freshwater fishes. A trout's needs and requirements for continued survival are some of the most demanding of any freshwater game fish and both it and its underwater habitat should be treated with respect. Like any other fish, trout possess a “slime” coating that protects them from acquiring disease and infection. Once the slime coating has been compromised, the trout is susceptible to invasion from a host of life-threatening illnesses and potentially deadly injuries. Here is a list of the top four immediate needs for optimum care of any trout:•Get the trout to hand as soon as possible. Overplaying a trout causes a potentially catastrophic build-up of lactic acid in the muscle tissues. Lactic acid accumulation prevents the fish from swimming normally, which makes it a target for predators. •Help protect the trout’s slime coating by not handling the fish at all, if possible. If handling is necessary for whatever reason, it should only be done after completely wetting your hands. Handling should be kept to an absolute minimum. Please, don’t grasp the trout with a towel. And never drag a fish up on the shore. This is particularly important in alkaline lakes where a heavy coating of slime is necessary to protect the fish.•Keeping a trout out of the water is like keeping a human under water; breathing is impossible. The less time a trout stays out of the water, the better its chances for post-release survival. Lactic acid increases as a fish is deprived of oxygen when it is taken out of the water. Extreme levels of lactic acid will cause paralysis. So limit the time that a fish is out of water to a maximum of 20 seconds or so.•Once the hook is removed from the trout’s lip, gently cradle the trout underwater facing upstream. Allow the trout a few moments to collect its’ thoughts, lose some lactic acid, and regain equilibrium. Once the trout has recovered, it will swim away from you faster than a car thief running from the cops.While those are the four most basic items to understand, there are other considerations and “helps” for a successful release.•If catch and release is the goal, pinching down the barbs on your hooks makes removal much easier. My personal experience is that if I keep a bend in the rod and tension on the fish, barbless hooks lose no more fish than barbed.•The slime coating is further protected by using the newer style, rubber nets now on the market. The older nylon nets are very hard on the fish. Next time you need to pick out a net, look for one that is made for C&R.•The use of forceps or hemostats is helpful in securing the hook and removing it without damaging the fish’s mouth.•If a fish is hooked deeply, the best idea is to simply snip the leader close to the mouth, rather than attempting to use a disgorger or pulling the hook free.•“Lipping” trout is very harmful, as the bones of their lips and mouth are fragile. They cannot be handled like a bass or with a Boga type tool. Holding a large trout vertically from the lower lip can damage the narrow isthmus area at the bottom of the gills. If you want to lift a fish for a picture, grasp the fish in front of the tail and under the belly to support the weight as evenly as possible.•The best way to weigh a fish is to lift it in a net. Weight the net with the fish and then subtract the weight of the net alone.•Avoid getting your fingers anywhere inside the gill plate. The least disturbance of the gills can kill a trout in a few hours, even though it looked fine swimming away from you.•Trout caught while fishing deep in lakes suffer from barotrauma (the bends) when brought to the surface. These fish must be released as soon as possible in order to improve survival. If the fish appears bloated and can’t swim back down by itself, it is best to use a descender weight with a clip or barbless hook to return the fish to depth quickly. Recent studies have found that deflating trout with a needle is a bad idea. Whether you release all the fish you land or selectively release fish to enhance your time on the water, these tips will allow for the best chance of survival for your trout. They are beautiful creatures and provide food and pleasure for us. Whenever we release them we should always do all we can to improve their survival.
  23. jdmidwest
    Just stick a knife in it and call it done. Put and take fish....
  24. tjm
    There are people that claim lipping any fish can cause jaw muscle damage and reduced ability to feed, someplace there is/was a study showing boga injured 90% of bonefish it was used on. One article by a so called scientist, but doesn't include study data, https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236100162_Lip_Gripping_May_Harm_Fish
  25. Brian Sloss
    For the 11 Point, if you decide to stay in Alton, I have lodging at www.elevenpointcottages.com and guide services at www.elevenpointflyfishing.com. For canoe rentals or shuttles, I would use Eleven Point Canoe rental at 417 778 6497. They also own Hufstedler's, but the Eleven Point Canoe location in Alton is better for floating the blue ribbon area. You can easily spend 2 or 3 days fishing different sections for trout. The Blue ribbon is great, but ignoring the white ribbon stretches simply because of their designation is cheating yourself. If I had just one day, I would choose the blue ribbon, but with multiple days, I am mixing it up. On the North Fork of the White, Sunburst is where I would go. There are 2 days worth of trout fishing floats there too.
  26. Mitch f
    They all learn chemistry and those big words and stuff. I’m just one of those low life machinists Bloomberg keeps yakin bout.
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  28. mixermarkb
    Shockey's boat and motor over on Bull Shoals does that, I think. They do pretty good work, but I've done a few of them myself. It's not difficult, just takes man hours and elbow grease. You can buy a variable speed buffer at harbor freight for like 30 bucks, a couple foam pads and two grades of 3m or ProTec polish, plus some sandpaper. I'm going to re-do both of my boats here in a week or two when I can catch decent weather and time off of work.
  29. fishinwrench
    Really? Moreso than a Crappie with his spindly little meeps? They get handled NO OTHER WAY but by their lower lip, and I know for sure that even the big ol' barn door slabs don't suffer from it.
  30. fishinwrench
    Let's see what you found. I'll decide if they are lazy, lying, or incompetent....and I'll let ya know.
  31. cheesemaster
    This - for sure.
  32. ness started following Proper Catch & Release
  33. ness
    I found a bunch of science on it, but it was all done by those lazy, lying, incompetent scientists 😄
  34. Johnsfolly
    Yeah only with smallmouth you need to pull out the gig first😌.
  35. dgilchrist
    I found it in the C&R practices that a trout biologist posted. I can copy and paste that full report in here if ya'll want. Lot's of good biological information on the lactic acid build up in trout and the importance of letting them swim out of your hand or landing net when they a full recovered from the fight of being caught. As well as the jaw bone structure and importance to never use a device to to weigh them where the fish hang from a clamp.
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  38. Phil Lilley
    I'm pretty lazy when it comes to sending out emails about advertising on this forum. I get around to it every 2 years. We have a few ads on the forum, mainly by people who frequent the lakes and rivers they're on. I thought I'd throw it out there and see if there's any new members who'd like to get their brand out. It's $100 per year per banner. You supply the image and url. No pressure... Thanks!
  39. fishinwrench
    Speaking of "what species of fish is that"...... What have we here?
  40. Bgctrading
    It gets so crowded once the word is out down there. Hopefully we can find them we are going to start near the power lines and just try till we find them.
  41. oneshot 1
    All Low stuff Cholesterol ,Blood Pressure and Heart Rate. Now my weight I gained 20 pounds but figure I will lose this. Had to go back to Springfield to have my Drain Tube pulled. Woman Doctor thinks I'm like any man. My wife said no I'm much worse. oneshot
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