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And they say romance is dead...
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Hit the water yesterday, around 9:00. Went for the crappie to start. I swear my crappie skills have diminished somewhat. That was the one thing I could actually catch with some consistency. Anyway blanked on that for a few hours. Gave up on that and went for the bass. Didn't waist anytime and went straight to the ned. Was really wanting some fish. The 12 to 15 inch spots were hungry. With an occasional small LM thrown in. Caught five legal spots, ( 12 inches) the biggest being a 15 inch, and took three home. I haven't got to go out in a couple weeks. I really had an enjoyable day. Weather was great, and caught a meal. A little surprised about the number of people that were out there. Dear people, get a job!!! lol Was in Sons creek arm. Water temp was 46 to 47 all day long. Slightly stained to clear... Mike
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Post em up!!!
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This conversation sorta reminds me of this scene from King of Queens:
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Fished two days in a row. Monday - Left late in the morning expecting fog early, got to the lake at 9 AM and it was still foggy, which kept me around Big M for a while. I haven't had much luck lately around Big M and Monday was no better, couldn't get a bite or find any fish. Fog finally lifted and down the lake I went. Never got on them down there either, got a few, ended up with 11 bass, 2 keepers. Caught nine of the on the Ned rig, fished off points, rocky banks. Wind picked up in the early afternoon, so I worked a Deep Little N off a couple of banks and caught a couple of bass on it, one being a keeper largemouth. Headed home at 2:30 PM. Tuesday - Got to the lake early, no fog in the forecast and the forecast was correct. Left the launch at 7 AM and headed downstream. My favorite rocky point had fish. Saw a few swirls on top, so started off with a 2.8 keitech and quickly caught a keeper largemouth and a keeper smallmouth. The fish lost interest in the Keitech, so I switched out to a Ned and picked up another 5 fish, four being keepers on the Ned, dragging it on the bottom in 10-20 FOW. That was it for the bite off that point, bounced around to a couple of other points, picked up one here and there, but no more than that at each location. Decided to fish a bluff, started picking up spots on that bluff, casting the Ned to the bank and stair stepping it down the until it got down to 30 feet or so, then bring it in and repeat, moving down the bluff. Had a good bite, picked up 10 spots, a couple of them were keepers. Probably should've just stayed on the bluff, but I wanted to try and get another smallmouth or two, so left the bluff and hit some more points and rocky banks. Caught a 12" smallie and a few more spots, but never picked up a good smallie. Called it quits at 12:45 PM. 21 bass, 8 keepers. WT - 53 Three amigos
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I saw the same thing in the state park area on Stockton.
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Met a new friend and went fishing
Daryk Campbell Sr replied to Smalliebigs's topic in Smallmouth Talk
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Well if you're only going to get one, that is the one to get, beauty of a smallmouth!
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Looks like an awesome day. Congrats to you both! What did that carp bite? Those are nice smallmouth.
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Last week up the James from Cape the shad were still shallow anywhere from the surface to 20 ft is where i saw the majority. The birds were going crazy over them.
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the rig might work if you want to fish it 50 to 60 feet deep. i just don't see a shallow bite happening except for a very limited area of the lake. i've covered 3/4 of the lake in the last 6 weeks, and the bulk of the shad are fairly deep, even in the mud in the kings, they were 15 to 20 feet deep. bo
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I don't know nothin bout nothin, except my arm has hurt for 2 weeks now from fightin what I believe to be big hybrids.
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I'd say it's more about convenience than a smart money option. For the price of a lifetime hunting/fishing license I can buy a Mercury throttle position sensor or HP fuel pump, sell it, and profit enough to buy permits for me and all my closest buddies for 15 years. 😆
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I understand the time value of money, and MDC permit costs are cheap.Likely to remain cheap due to the 1/8 cent sales tax. No break even for a 25-30 year old ,IMO. They should send a donor letter if you buy a lifetime permit.Take it off your taxes if you can still itemize. The Insurance folks could calculate that so it is a win win for most but it is not.
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The middle kid has a video on her phone of me raising hell and demanding that my wife admit that Blue Bonnet and Country Crock is NOT BUTTER. I'll see if I can get her to upload it to YT. I guarantee that even the guys on here that can't stand me (Ham, Susalaki, ect) will applaud my performance. She has this thing where she refuses to admit when she has lost an argument. We truly should have a reality show. The kid has another clip where I tried to get Sugarbritches to admit that the spaghetti was undercooked. And yet another of me teaching the youngest child to hock a loogy while my darling wife threatens to divorce me. Freakin' priceless footage!
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Some good questions concerning the length limits. I think I could write a 5000 word essay on this subject (and still not adequately address the subject for all MO Reservoirs), but since I am a retired biologist I don't feel compelled to elaborate to that extent. So here goes the short version: First of all, let me assure you that there has been a lot of research went in to selecting the appropriate size limits for the each of the various MO lakes. Also, it is a very complicated with many social and biological considerations. These include: Growth Rates, fecundity (reproductive rates), harvest rates and fishing pressure, fish densities, age and length of maturity, Natural mortality, weight/length relationships (overall condition), food availability at the utilizable sizes in relation to fish sizes, angler preferences and regulation simplicity and enforcement. Add to those the need to manage for optimal production over the long term due to changing water conditions and yearly forage fish density fluctuations. Now to get down to a complicated simple explanation of why some lakes are 9" and others 10". Truman is a more turbid lake, therefore reproductive survival of crappie is better than clearer lakes like Stockton, most likely because other sight feeders cannot see them to feed on them. Additionally, Truman is more fertile and that increases zooplankton production, feeding the baby crappie, equaling better survival of the fry. Also, because of the turbidity, sight feeders like crappie cannot see their prey as easily, leading to slower growth rates. That means that if you would protect crappie in Truman to 10 inches (or greater) the crappie would likely over-populate and growth rates would slow even more. So, take that same logic and apply to Stockton, if a 12 inch length limit were applied, the growth rate could slow due to increased densities and add a year or years of poor forage production, to a point that it would take longer for them to reach the legal size, possibly effecting overall condition (skinny fish) with less ability to reproduce. Stockton experienced poor shad production in the late 90's anyone remember that? And, what was the crappie fishing like at that time? Note: Surveys have shown that most anglers would rather catch more medium sized crappie rather than a few larger ones. I am convinced that the 10 inch crappie length limit is right for Stockton. Boy, I could go on and on but its late time to hit the sack!
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Here is the link not recent numbers though https://www.swl.usace.army.mil/Portals/50/docs/tablerocklake/Pool History- Table Rock (4).pdf
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I have the lifetime hunting and fishing permit. It includes everything except deer, turkey, and the duck stamp (it does include migratory bird). You also still have to buy a daily trout tag if fishing in the parks, but do not have to purchase a trout tag for the streams or Taneycomo. i believe if you have the lifetime permit and move out of state, you are still permitted to hunt/fish in Missouri using your lifetime permit. I asked about that when I purchased it years ago as it was a major concern of mine. The best time to get it is when you are a teenager. I wish I had purchased mine when I was a teen, but I was worried about moving out of state when I got older (which I later learned was a non-issue). It takes a long time for the math to work, but I will save quite a lot of money in the long run. Plus, it makes it much easier for me to go dove hunting or trout fishing. I normally might not get a permit to go once or twice in a year, but now I can go one time in a year and it is no big deal. I don’t have to put any thought into it at all. If I want to go, I go.
