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  1. 15 points
    Havin' me some deep fried crapps, onion rigs and taters. Then a quick trip to the hospital for a couple stents.
  2. 13 points

    Got to fish with my sister today

    We had a fun day on the lake today without many other boats out there. We put in at K Dock around 7 this morning and fished till 3. Boated up to Snap and started working the roll off from the bluff to just past the cut with mega bass. Picked up a couple stinking bass and my sister, Jen was pretty proud of this one. I told her to hurry up and toss it back so we could get back to fishing for target species. We picked up a couple big whites up there before we decided to try jigs in the brush piles. picke up 4 or 5 short crappies on the brush piles and the decided to try trolling flicker shad. Picked up a couple keeper crappie on the edge of the roll offs but was marking more fish up shallower. Caught most fish going with the wind staying in 13-15 feet of water going 1.7 mph. Had several double hook ups today. We caught 5 walleye with 2 being keepers, 15 keeper crappie and 7-8 shorts, 3 big whites, one giant quill back, and 8-10 of them bass and a blue gill. Fun day with my sister on the water.
  3. 8 points
    Al Agnew

    About a half-century ago

    Well, almost a half-century ago, anyway...I got to thinking after somebody mentioned catching river smallmouth on various old lures back in the good old days. Fifty years ago, I was 14 years old, and already fishing Big River a lot, both wading, and out of a 12 ft. aluminum johnboat, but I have to admit I was mostly a bait fisherman back then. It wasn't until a couple years later, about the time I learned to drive, that I stopped using crawdads and went to using nothing but lures. But I guess I'm an old timer, because I remember a whole lot of lures from back in those days that most anglers today wouldn't recognize. And some that everybody would know. My first 4-pound river smallmouth was caught on a 2 3/4 inch floating Rapala, silver with black back, and I could show you EXACTLY where I caught it--that same spot produced several more big ones over the many years since that first one in 1968. I floated by it on my trip Monday, and as always, fished it carefully (caught nothing). The "old timers" I knew back then, friends of my dad and grandfather, and fathers of a couple of my fishing buddies, had their own pet lures. One was the Heddon River Runt. Another was a little fat-bodied wobbling lure called a Hawk. Lazy Ikes were sometimes used, but most preferred a similar lure called a Beno, which was like a jointed Lazy Ike--one version was even double-jointed, three separate body parts. And then there was the Peck, a weighted propeller in-line spinner, dressed with chicken feathers. Yellow was the preferred color. And of course, the Shannon Twin Spin, which was the lure that turned me against bait fishing. I've told the story many times, but I fished a certain pool on Big River, the closest spot to my house, at least once a week all summer for several summers, with live crawdads. Caught plenty of fish from it (and I kept fish in those days so I took a lot of fish out of that one pool, yet it continued to produce all summer), but the biggest I ever caught was a 17 incher. Then one day an "old guy" in a cedar and canvas canoe caught up to me just as I was coming up to the head of that pool, where the sweet spot for crawdad fishing was, a huge, slick log with the current sweeping under it. He asked if he could make a couple casts before I started fishing, and I told him "sure". One cast was all it took with that Shannon; a huge smallmouth took the lure just as he brought it over the log. He horsed it to the canoe with his heavy steel rod and baitcasting reel, and I came over to look at it lying in the bottom of the canoe. He said it was a "good 'un" and dug out his set of De-liars scales. They read 4 3/4 pounds. I'd been fishing that spot all summer, and never knew that fish was there. There was the Midge-oreno, with the secret skirt. A few people I knew liked the Baby Lucky 13 with the same skirt. One guy was partial to the smallest size of the original wooden Bomber. Surprisingly few people I knew used a lot of topwater lures, and none used walk the dog types. I fell in love with the Tiny Torpedo, and caught some big fish on it. The Devil's Horse was sometimes used. I always read about people using Hula Poppers, but nobody I knew did. Still, I tried them, with no success. That original Rapala was interesting. I always used the 2 3/4th inch size, the second smallest. I tried the next bigger size a lot but with surprisingly limited success. When the plastic version, the original Rebel, came out, I immediately tried it and caught some nice fish on it, but I still preferred the Rapala. Then the Storm Thinfin appeared on the scene. I had one year of terrific fishing with that lure, and then it just died. Rebel came out with their "humpbacked" version, and it was very good. So my tackle box back then was limited. Rapalas, Humpbacked Rebels, Midge-orenos, Shannons, Tiny Torpedos. I casted the Rapalas with a Abu-Garcia 314 spinning reel which I had cut the bail off. Everything else was fished with a 5 ft. solid glass rod and a Shakespeare Presidential direct drive casting reel. I started fishing in April, when the redbuds started blooming, and switched to walleye fishing around late October, no winter fishing for smallmouth. I bought my first canoe the year I graduated from high school.
  4. 7 points

    Middle Meramec report

    Tried something different this week. Typically I run up to a spot that I've caught fish from before, burn through it one time with whatever lures seem appropriate for the temps and season and then move to the next spot, rinse and repeat. Since it seems like the smallies are transitioning towards spawning areas I thought I would select a few larger pools with good ripples above and below and pound them mercilessly until I either caught something or my arms fell off. For the first section I selected a place that I've never done very well at just to see what happens. It's a well known spot with a short bluff on one side and grass bank on the other, with typical gravel bar and back eddy at the top and gravel bar backwater at the bottom, maybe 300 yds total. I started off at the bottom of the run working up the bluff with a crankbait, nothing. Switched sides to the grass and tossed a jerk bait and picked up two small spots off of some logs. Back to the bluff side with the jerkbait, one 15" spot (or is it a hybrid?) in about 75 yds of big rocks. Hell with it where's the ned rig rod, I declare! Staying with the bluff side I pick up three largemouth in a row all 13-16" by dragging it slowly along the bottom. Thinking I'm on to a pattern I continue the rest of the way up the bluff and get nothing. I work my way back down stream alternating between the jerkbait and the ned on the grass side and get nothing. Back up the bluff I go again this time I'm going all in for the big boys that I know have to be there so I grab the HD craw and work over the same spots again this time changing the boat position Tight against the bluff and casting upstream and across to present different angles of attack. the exact spot I caught the three LM at produced a decent SM on the craw. Repeated casts brought nothing else, switched the boat around to where I had it earlier on the grass side and threw the craw some more and picked up another LM. Went back to the boat position where I caught the SM and caught another SM on the craw (little guy). I went up the bluff the rest of the way and caught nothing else but drum. Drum love the HD craw btw. Kinda frustrating but exciting nonetheless! i tried a few other places some fast water, a long stretch of deeper water with a bunch of downed trees and had almost nothing. i guess pounding a spot over and over can be productive or at least not spook the fish out as bad as I originally thought. Can't say I had a better than average day but can't say it was worse either. Good luck to everyone!
  5. 7 points

    5 fish 31+ lbs?

    People complain if your electronics are too good, your boat cost too much, you throw an A-rig, etc, etc. Somehow, they get it in their head that these are all magic fixes for those that can't catch fish. If that were the case, anybody should be able to go out with these tools and wack a 20# sack every time, right? That's far from the case. If you don't know how to find and catch fish in the first place, these aren't going to magically fix your problem. They may make the job easier for those that already have a clue though. Fish with whatever is legal and have fun. A lot of people get offended and cry when it comes to fishing simply because they suck at it more so than others.
  6. 6 points
    Went out with my old buddy Lou again and we found the crappie in the coves around hardwoods. Had and double limit with some 15 inchers. Lower James. 1/8 oz swimming minnow blue silver. 8 to 12 feet deep.
  7. 5 points
    "...Yet anudder heart attack..."
  8. 4 points

    Cape Fair 3-23

    Put in late around 9:00. Started off slow searching a few pockets and main points with no luck using jerk bait, Ned, and wart. Decided to run to piney and it turned on for me, nothing huge. It was a wonderful day to be out on beautiful table rock!
  9. 4 points
    Alex Heitman

    5 fish 31+ lbs?

    I like fishing the A-rig but only when they are really biting on it good. If you are fishing a tourney right now you better be throwing it unless you are some special pattern because it is a big fish bait. The arig was pretty magical when it first came out. I remember throwing it before a lot of people had one and man it flat out caught big fish all the time in the spring. I think the fish have become more conditioned to it now and it's more difficult to catch fish on. It's just hard to sling something like that all day and only get a handful or more bites on it in tournaments but that is how a lot are won this time of year. I hate when they get hung up too because you spook the fish where they are holding when you go to get it out. Weedless hooks help some but you also suffer hooking up with some fish as well.
  10. 4 points

    What's Cooking?

    I did the Applewood smoked pork belly again tonight. My doctor is going to kill me if the pork belly doesn't first. Served it with a veggie loaded salad so not entirely gluttonous
  11. 4 points

    5 fish 31+ lbs?

    I have some old central pro am and heartland magazines from nearly 20 years ago. You would be suprised how many of the names in the top of the tourney results are STILL the names in the top of the tourney results today. Guys that put in the effort to get out there and find fish, and keep skills up to date, and pick up new techniques when they are better and stick with old faithful when it's better are winning the tourneys. Fishing is time on the water, hard work, and constant learning, not a magic bait, $70K boat, or 46" plasma HD depth finder. The tools can help, but without time on the water and the desire to learn, they won't matter a bit.
  12. 3 points

    23 March Upper End Report

    After the front that came through last night, I found it much more difficult to find concentrated fish. In fact, for the first hour and a half I found none. Now some of that may be due to the fact I was exploring different water today, but still, I expected the Ned to dig up something. When it finally did, it was not a bass. This guy was a skinny 21" fish that weighed slightly less than 3 pounds. I eventually did catch five bass, all of which were between 12 and 14 inches. Water temp was cooler, 54 to 55 degrees.
  13. 3 points


    Walcrabass I copied/pasted the questions and sent them to the Fisheries Biologist for Pomme de Terre, and asked if he would forward them to the correct individual since I don't have their email. Will see if it gets a response. Maybe one of the biologists from other areas read along and can provide insight as well.
  14. 3 points

    Honest Fiberglass guy?

    Just make some slits in the carpet with a razor knife, drill a few 3/8" holes through the floor, shoot in a can or two of expanding foam, and set some concrete blocks on the area so it doesn't puff it up too much. That will firm up that soft spot real well.
  15. 3 points
    Mitch f

    5 fish 31+ lbs?

    I guess when you get haters, that's a sign that you've actually accomplished something.
  16. 3 points

    Dam area 3.21.17

    Dang it. Missed the best one.
  17. 2 points
    lmt out


    4Lb 8oz. Caught it below Truman dam. I know not Stockton but it was fun any wau.
  18. 2 points
    Hi, Had a guide trip on Monday. Tried pulling crankbaits and couldn't buy a bite. Got these pulling bottom bouncers in 20-25 fow. Water temps were up to 57.
  19. 2 points

    23 March Upper End Report

    Myself and Muddy were out there this morning also, we went out of Big M. Fishing was a bit slow for us also, I am also blaming it on the cold morning. We caught a few nice largemouth to start and Muddy got a fat keeper sized spot, I think we got 4 or 5 that went between 2-3 lbs. One it got later in the AM, we caught some fish, but smaller, in the 12 inch range. We never found a bunch of them, just one here and there. All Ned fish except one caught on a c-rig. Also noted that the water temp was 54 to start, saw 56 when we left around 1230.
  20. 2 points

    A few hours with the Ned

    Slow, straight swim. Maybe with some gentle shaking. Still trying to shake the line. Very little bottom contact. This is where the line blurs a little with Slider fishing, but still with the benefits of the elaztech baits. The baits with less, or no salt, will stay higher in the water column. Finesse Shadz, finesse wormz, etc.
  21. 2 points


    If I ever catch a 30 inch Walleye every one within a half mile will hear me yelling. I would be much more likely to release a truly big fish like that than anything "normal".
  22. 2 points


    Some very interesting takes here to say the least. Not sure we will ever know for sure what these walleyes are doing in Stockton Lake as far as the spawning process. I am thrilled to hear that more bigger fish are being caught there. For a long time all i could catch was a lot of 14 inch fish with the occassional keeper at 15 inches. Some good info boys and interesting opinions on the topic. I am still looking for that 30 incher myself. Got a couple of 28 inchers up in Canada. I think if i caught a 30 inch walleye in Stockton I would get measurements and get a good replica mount of her. Even though we are not sure if she can successfully spawn or not. I couldnt bring myself to put a fillet knife through that beautiful fish. Just my opinion on that.
  23. 2 points
    Al Agnew

    About a half-century ago

    Some of the old lures in the top picture...how many can you name (the Hawk has already been identified)? Bottom picture shows three variations on the Shannon. An original, still with the package, from the late 1960s, one with odd tear-drop shaped blades--the blades have "Shannon Strike-o-matic" etched on them, and one with hinge where the arms meet the shaft, so that the arms rotate up as the lure sinks, then back down to the sides of the head as you retrieve it, and willow leaf blades. Both of those are probably 1950s era lures.
  24. 2 points


    Walleye are protected in the rivers during the spawn, however if the reproductive success in the lake is minimal then protecting them during the spawn, would have no effect upon the population. Biologically it just doesn't make a difference. Slot limits are again designed to protect the breeders, if they aren't breeding successfully it won't have an effect. Now upping the length limit to 18" would, it would act more or less like the 4 point rule on deer, would provide them at least and extra year of growth to attain the 18" length.
  25. 2 points


    Smithville Steve and others, Here is another 2 cents from Walcrabass. The conditions in Stockton are not perfect for Walleye but I personally believe they are good enough. Good enough for them to spawn that is. One thing I learned early in life is that with fish that normally when stocked will not spawn there is an answer. They have to be taught how. Not kidding. Taught, have the knowledge, and have already spawned in other waters. That is where the problem comes in with Stockton. The Walleye are put in as small fingerlings. These fingerlings were more than likely "spawned" by stripping eggs and milt from mature fish. No instinct, no knowledge, no perpetuation of previous habits. Think I am nuts ??? Read on............ When I was a kid I was fortunate enough to have contact with a guy that loved Channel Cats. As most of you know they are not real excited about spawning in ponds and non moving water. The person I knew had a simple solution. Get fish that already knew how to spawn. We would go to the river and fish with frogs for bait on bank poles and limb lines. We would hook the frogs through the underside of their hind end and then wrap the line around the pole until he just barely sat on the water. After setting the lines we would go camp on the bank with a fire and listen for the fish to bite. Solid plunging sounds meant Flatheads, not what we wanted but good for Catfish steaks. Thrashing and rolling sounds meant Channel Cats. When we had several fish hooked we would go back in the flat bottom boat with Gunny sacks we had soaked in water. Upon carefully taking them off the line if they were large enough that they had already spawned we would sex them ( females eyes are narrower than their mouths when you look at them from the front ) and then put them in the sacks. These fish were taken home to put in ponds that had previously been sterilized of other fishy life. They were fed chicken guts and pellets and became great pets. When the next year would come around we would stick Cream Cans back in the bank and wait for the Cats to move in. After they spawned, ( remember they already knew how) we would carefully run the parents out and cover the cans with screen wire and wait for the fry to hatch and get free swimming. The Cream Cans were then pulled out and the small fry were taken to another pond that had also been previously sterilized. They were fed until they matured. The point of this long story??? If Walleye that had already spawned naturally were put into the lake we would have a lot more spawning going on. These fish would "teach" some of the Hatchery fish and they would in turn teach others. Of course this would probably also require that we did not fish for them during spawning time, kind of like some of the Northern states do with their Bass. Still think I am nuts ??? I am betting............... NOT !!!!! Like I said, just another 2 cents from the guy that would like to see increased length for the Crappie, Slot length for the Bass, Lower length limit for the Kentuckies, and so on............ Wally Before you say it...........yes it would require catching some wild fish that had already spawned and putting them in the lake. Remember, we stocked Elk and Deer here in Missouri. Probably a little more difficult than catching some fish and driving them in a tank truck to Stockton and letting them go.
  26. 2 points
    Now that's a super mess of fish. Enjoy them.
  27. 2 points

    Stclair Smallie's

    What's this all about? Easy. Hog Wally caught nice fish, as usual. Posted pictures. Check. Well deserved accolades ensued , with good natured back slapping and bonhomie. Snoop joined the good times with apparently a lot on his mind. Some hackles were raised, but, no big whup, and, as usual, the original post was unceremoniously pushed aside to give you what WE want to discuss. Namely, competition, homosexuality and apologies. Like a soap opera, but without good looking men and coiffed hair.
  28. 2 points
    Levi Michael McQueary

    Meramec River Fishing Help

    Without a boat it can be tough finding good spots. If your looking for smallmouth any river in the Ozarks holds them. Not many by you in the Ballwin area. Head to the Upper Meremac. Anywhere from the beginning of the river at Cook Station to Steelville. But I don't know too many areas to fish without a boat. If you don't mind wading the Forks of the Black river are a good option. The Courtois and Huzzah are also in the Steelville area. They hold plenty of smallmouth despite their smaller size. But I really suggest renting a canoe on any river. If you are willing to drive 2+ hours you have the Current River, Jacks Fork, Big Piney, Little Piney, Gasconade, St. Francis. On the Meremac I use Ozark Outdoors across the river from Onondaga State Park, and take a 2 day float from Bird's Nest back to Ozark Outdoors. I think it's 20 miles and there are shorter floats. Plus they can also put you in on the Huzzah and Courtois. I like to use Huzzah Valley for the Huzzah and Bass River Resort for the Courtois. On the Black River I like to use Jeff's Canoe Rental. The Big Piney Rich's Last Resort. On the Gasconade I use Boiling Springs Campground and Gasconade Hills. Jacks Fork I use Windy's Canoe Rental. And I have never had a problem with any of these rentals accommodating my request. Just with Rich's you may get a canoe that leaks and Gasconade Hills won't put you in up river from them because they keep saying there is a log jam. They have been saying that for the past 3 years. I just think they don't want to spend the gas money running people up there. For water to target. Every river is the exact same. There is a riffle, a hole, then a run and repeat. The fish are honestly everywhere. Holes are always productive and just above a riffle and especially below a riffle. Runs can be hit or miss depending on water depth and bottom type. Rocks are you best friend. If there is plenty of rocks around the fish are there because crawdads are there. If you empty 100 smallmouth stomachs 99 will have crawdads in them. For lures I use panfish lures. Baits don't get as big in the river as the do in lakes so scale it down just a little. Get a Rebel Wee Crawdad crankbait. A small yellow Rebel Crickhopper can be deadly. A Senko, Rooster Tails I use 1/8oz but a 1/4oz will work, buzzbaits, and get Curly Tails. They are the #1 smallmouth lure. I use 2", 3", and 5".
  29. 1 point

    Jet Touring Boat

    Was watching the News where they are talking about bringing in a Large Jet Touring Boat. From what I seen NO WAY! There is no way this can be safe one the Lake. oneshot
  30. 1 point

    STL County park gills

    Day got off too a rocky start but fortunately got better. Got to the park lake in Fenton and started rigging the rods up and tied on a jig.It was at that moment I realized that I had left my upper false teeth at home that I had just gotten this week. Last trip I was able to bite the line but no way this was happening today. Fortunately found a clippers in the glove box and was back in business. This lake has an abundance of lily pads so usually can only fish it early in the year before it gets too dense. Went to far corner of the dam and started fishing a 1" tube on a 1/64 dart head with a #10 lil nasty jig hook tipped with a piece of power wiggler that I cut in half. The fish were hungry. I caught five bluegill and a crappie on the first six casts. I didn't move from that spot for over two hours and only switched baits when something buried me in a christmas tree and I lost my jig. Switched to orange/chartreuse trout magnet with half the tail pulled off and kept on catching bluegill, crappie and bass. The bite slowed when the wind picked up. Best action was by just letting the jig and float drift with the wind providing the action. Ended up with two crappie, two bass and 40-50 bluegill that ranged from 5-9.5 inches long. Bass were a little longer. Everything is still swimming in the lake. Not bad for a county park lake that gets fished pretty hard since you can drive up to the lake.
  31. 1 point
    big rich

    buffalo and white

    I am trying to find a good guide service to fish the tail waters of the Buffalo river for smallmouth and then also fish the white for some trout. Have never fished that area before, anyone know of a good patient guide that could take me and my 12 year old daughter out for both the smallies and the trout in that area around buffalo city?
  32. 1 point
    snagged in outlet 3

    A few hours with the Ned

    And I gave up golf trolling you!! I knew I would regret it.
  33. 1 point

    West county MO fisherman

    Queeny Park, Lake by the Chesterfield Ampitheater, Busch Wildlife is probably only 20-30 minutes away.
  34. 1 point

    Its's that time of year!! (For crappie)

    When Tablerock is on, you won't catch a better stringer of crappie anywhere else in MO! It produces some good ones!
  35. 1 point

    Jet Touring Boat

    If that thing ever drops off plane up in the shallow country seems like there would be a lot of folks with wet feet when they wade to shore. Wonder how long it takes a boat with 50 people to get onto plane?
  36. 1 point
    frying eyes


    I believe the walleye are getting bigger on Stockton. I caught my biggest last summer almost 26in. This past weekend I caught 5 between Friday and Saturday and 2 was over 20in. I was using extra large minnows on a 1/2 oz jig up by the dam. I don't know if they spawn but they do go through the motions. Tried to download some pics but won't work. I'll be back Saturday.
  37. 1 point
    Sore Thumbs

    Anyone been to Dardenelle?

    Check out Spadra area. Always good this time of year but I'm afraid everyone else will be In there trying it out as well. Good luck!
  38. 1 point
    That's pretty funny. Nice Crappies.
  39. 1 point


    Dan, let us put this in perspective. I have lived on TR for 15 years now. In that time I have one 29" beast that did not make 10 pounds, one 30" unexpected fish that hit 10 pounds even, and one 32.5 fish that almost made 14 pounds. Fish like these are more than want. They are want + effort + random chaos odds. Yours will come.
  40. 1 point

    What's Cooking?

    I am going to have to suffer through some grilled walleye fillets, oven roasted taters, and a skillet of fried apples. Specifics, walleye fresh from the last couple nights seasoned with butter garlic lime, and a variety of pics including season salt and old Bay, little round whole taters, no idea where my wife found them and the fried apples are whatever was on sale liberally coated with sugar and cinnamon some dried apricots and dried cranberries and given a taste of butter in the skillet.
  41. 1 point
    Gary Stanton

    Stockton Walleyes 3/20/17

    Hi, Small spinners with slow death hooks seemed to work the best with about 1/2 crawler.
  42. 1 point
    Who let you out to torment the fish? You should be chained to an airbrush ?.
  43. 1 point

    Dam area 3.21.17

    Yep. I'm just the designated poster of pics at the moment. And I'm having an Archer moment too...
  44. 1 point
    Bill Babler

    Dam area 3.21.17

    Great fish. Tks for the report. If you have an iPhone email the pics on medium to your email. Download to your picture file. Works perfect most of the time. If you load them from the iPhone directly on your personal device they load way to big and you have to size them. Great day Dave
  45. 1 point
    Sore Thumbs

    I can't get a break..

    I got the boat out yesterday for a few hours. Went to Elmdale and just used my trolling motor. I had to get on the water. Caught quite a few dinks on a fluke and the Ned. Best two came on a jig out of some brush piles. After that east wind showed up it got tougher. It was nice to be fishing again. Any fish was a bonus.
  46. 1 point

    Jet Touring Boat

    Ha, that's funny. A boat that holds up to 50 people is going to make a small tsunami. That's an interesting sales pitch though.
  47. 1 point

    5 fish 31+ lbs?

    To all of the A Rig haters... Why the disdain for this method?
  48. 1 point

    Scott Pruitt

    Quit waisting your thoughts on it. They will be gone in 4-8yrs maximum. They can't kill all the Truffala Trees in that time frame.
  49. 1 point

    Bluegill and Crappie 3/18/17

    We got again on Sunday evening back out to Little Dixie for some crappie numbers. Never get much size from that lake, but always can get a bunch. Still using the jig and float combos. Green/black, purple/pink, and white with chartreuse worked again. Livie caught her first white crappie of the season along with another and a couple of black crappie and a bluegill. So far since the 4th of March she has caught 38 total fish and 5 different species; white and black crappie, bluegill, largemouth bass, and golden shiners. I ended up catching 13 white and 6 black crappie. anything longer than 8" went into the cooler for dinner. We ended up keeping 9 crappie all of them were 8 to 8.5" in length. My exciting catch was my first redear sunfish of the season.
  50. 1 point

    LOZ is on Fire!

    I about spit coffee all over my desk reading this! Haha sad but true. It's weird what fishing has turned into for the kids nowadays. It's definitely not the same fishing I grew up with. Social media has really ruined aspects of it. My social media growing up was hanging out at bass pro up in Laurie.
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