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  1. 7 points
    shark bait

    Last weekend Dec 2

    Fished out of Eagle Rock. Put in at 7 am. Fish were busying the surface occasionally so tried top water around the dock and down the bank. Nothing. Tried jerk bait- nothing. Went halfway back in Panther and the schooling was going pretty good. I tried a several top waters an nothing. So I tied on a ned with a little 3 inch white senko and swam it through the schools. Bingo! I stayed on them a couple of hours. Caught several keepers with a few 2 - 2 1/2 liners. After they quit I went the bridge and cought a very nice smally on the old roadbed. Went up to mouth of Roring River and cought a few here and there, all small until I saw some busting the surface off a point. First cast to that area I caught one that was 3 1/2 to 4 lbs. All spots except for the one sm. Fun day and beautiful weather.
  2. 6 points
    Phil Lilley

    Clear water

    Pissing contest is over. Topic closed.
  3. 5 points
    Jim Spriggs

    Clear water

    I’ll reiterate my plea to keep this forum civil. I’m as competitive as the next guy, and I’ll certainly talk smack with my friends. But, I don’t see any point to posts that go after someone. Yes, I’m referring to a few posts about Al Agnew. I know Al only from his posts on the forum, and he seems like a thoughtful guy who loves the river and is an awesome angler. I look forward to his posts, and they don’t read to me like he cares about whether he is the best on the river or is in the top 10%. What I can say for sure is that I don’t have many days that are as good as Al’s, and I’m not too proud to admit that. I spend a lot of time learning the craft of caching smallmouth by reading (and forums like this one are good for getting advice from people) and, of course, spending as much time on the water as possible (I’m on the river at least once per week). Let me put it another way. You have heard of this thing called the Golden Rule. Let’s follow it here. I wish you happy holidays and tight lines.
  4. 4 points
    Mitch f

    Cold front !

    Well, the cold front and 12 foot visibility doesn’t appear to effect Hog Wally and the Hi-Def craw.
  5. 4 points
    MOPanfisher

    What's Cooking?

    Trying to clan out some deepfreeze space for tomorrow's pick up of a slaughtered beef. So 2 roasts came out last night, one for my daughter, grandson, and SIL, and one for myself and mother when I got back from Dr. Appt. Nothing more than a roast that got seared in a skillet then into the crockpot with a couple chunked onions and some beef broth and Billy goat seasoning. When I got home the house smells wonderful, wish I had a loaf of sourdough bread to bake, added carrots and some baby taters. Also made an expiramental sauce for the meat, some horse radish sauce my wife had, some juice from the roast, a couple drops of liquid smoke, and a little corn starch to try to thicken it. I like horse radish sauce but it is usually a little too strong for me, but this mixture is just about right. This meal has been approved by "The Dirty T Shirt" group.
  6. 3 points
    If I want to build up cash for a big future project, how do I do that without showing a profit and paying corporate tax? Last year I paid taxes on $xx,xxx so I could put it back to build new units. I’ve asked several accountants and no one can tell me how not to pay that tax, which I’m not complaining... just the price of being profitable. My employees are not poor. And they aren’t little.
  7. 3 points
    bferg

    Indian Creek 12/3

    Crazy how a striper can glow up a pencil poper and not touch a hook... meanwhile if it gets within 2 inches of my pants I have to cut it out!
  8. 3 points
    Mitch f

    Clear water

    Yep, very well said. The nature of forums is that everyone’s voice is heard with 100% equality. A guy like Al is several steps ahead of the discussion before he steps in. There are a certain number of people, who thru inferiority or jealousy, or both...think they can somehow build themselves up by cutting someone down. They have the same voice as someone 10 times better than them. They hide behind a made up forum name instead of their real name. That speaks volumes in itself.
  9. 3 points
    Hog Wally

    Clear water

    I can say this, Al misses no bites He might break a big one off though. He quickly fishes a hole then methodically picks every inch of it apart. If you figure a bite out before he does, you dang sure better believe he will be changing lures to even the odds. Unlike me. I keep fishing and watch him catching. To me Al is a legend on the river period. He has a photographic memory of very specific structure. He understands that it's not about where you've caught big fish in the past. It's about the specific circumstances when it was caught, time of year, water temp, weather, etc. Al is aggressive and wants to catch every fish It's like he's fishing for a million dollars every time he casts. If you've never fished with this maniac man you wouldn't know
  10. 2 points
    moguy1973

    Cold front !

    That sun is really blaring down on your right shoulder.
  11. 2 points
  12. 2 points
    timinmo

    Clear water

    Jim I enjoyed your thoughtful response. Certainly we all don't have to agree, but I would like to think we can disagree civilly. Best to you and your's.
  13. 2 points
    merc1997

    Last weekend Dec 2

    glad to see some of all the brownies that i have hauled eagle rock and released are going to hang around. great day of catching! bo
  14. 2 points
    Phil Lilley

    Size vs Quantity?

    I’ll be to post the results here. But most ppl agree with you, so far.
  15. 2 points
    snagged in outlet 3

    Clear water

    I'd do it but no water will get in my live wells. If you don't know me well enough to trust me then we shouldn't bother. Similar to golf. If I don't trust you enough not to stand over you to make sure you don't cheat I don't want to know you anyway.
  16. 2 points
    KLiK

    Meramec at Holzer

  17. 2 points
    Champ188

    Cape Fair area, 12/6/17

    Buddy and I got in a pretty full day Wednesday at Cape Fair. Results weren't so great but we were fishing between two strong, rapid-fire cold fronts. Started in some shady cuts between Bridgeport and Peach Orchard and it became apparent early on that would be very little shallow action, so we soon migrated back out to the main river. For most of the day, we went 15-20 minutes between bites on the Ned rig ... not a good deal on a bait that consistently produces a bite every 5 minutes or less. The action was primarily in channel swings and bluff ends. I did manage to pick up a gorgeous 4 pound-plus fish off an isolated boat dock (15 feet of water in the stall where she bit) on a finesse jig and lost beside the boat what looked to be one of the biggest spots I've ever seen in any of the river arms. Got a pretty good look at it up close and it was well over 3 pounds. Also managed one fish on a jerk bait. Dilly dilly! All told, we had a dozen fish but only two keepers. No crank bait bite at all and I spent too much time throwing one. Better days coming soon. Stay tuned.
  18. 1 point
    Hog Wally

    Cold front !

    This is a legit 4 lber. Look in his mouth folks. All caught on GoPro too.
  19. 1 point
    MOPanfisher

    What's Cooking?

    While unloading the fresh beef into freezers we tossed a fair amount of old "stuff", things my mom had simply pit on bags and frozen. However amongst all that detritus was a couple packages of big gooseberries, so now supper will be delayed as my wife makes a huge gooseberry cobbler with some kind of a pour over crust. Hope its.good because it's a 9x13 pan and.is full. There is always the vanilla ice cream to fall back on. will take a pic of it when it comes out hopefully. Well it is a bit dangerous, I couldn't wait to let it set and burned the heck out of my mouth, otherwise it is good, tart enough and the ice cream addition is just right.
  20. 1 point
    Old plug

    Winners and Losers in the Tax Bill

    Phil Yes thy are awful if they get on yout tail. I used to supervise a small unit that provided support sevices to IRS agents. You might wonder what the IRS would want with your familys Military records,but they went thru them very thoughly. I am still not sure what they wanted but I know there they are as slippery as a snake if they get a tip on a person. They will go nto person place of buiness and befriend them. then when they spll the beans the sky will fall in on them. people around here tend to have loose lips to much. they will slap fines unpaid tax estament going back years plus interest on them. Not to worry though if you ever git called for audit. I did one time and they were questioning a deduction. We knew we were right. We explained the reason for our deduction to the agent in the office and all the agent said was"I see. Is that how that works?" And that was that.
  21. 1 point
    I’ve been told once you’ve swallowed the red pill - got a ss number, agreed to the IRS terms- you’re hooked in for life. I’ve heard of people beating the system but I also personally know people who are in jail who tried.
  22. 1 point
    Yes Dan that's the place. They have your favorite spoons and stuff people actually catch fish with in that place. They are always really helpful in what people are catching fish on. They mentioned that the shad hatch this year was really good on Stockton.
  23. 1 point
    Mitch f

    Winners and Losers in the Tax Bill

    I believe like Michelle Bachman once said. Every person should pay income tax regardless of their situation. It is destroying the human character to pay nothing. 47% of the people in the US pay nothing. Not good.
  24. 1 point
    snagged in outlet 3

    Cold front !

    I don't like it.
  25. 1 point
    evilcatfish

    Sorry to keep bugging

    Shhh....tubes aren't cool anymore and don't work
  26. 1 point
    snagged in outlet 3

    Big thanks to Hog Wally

    Thanks! I’ll probably head tomorrow. No desire to eat em any more than eating a trout. And I’ve caught thousands. Not in one day though. My friends always say you go fishing all the time but you don’t keep them? I just like catching them.
  27. 1 point
    MoCarp

    Clear water

    well said
  28. 1 point
    Phil Lilley

    Size vs Quantity?

    You're forgetting about carrying capacity. MDC stocked 1.6 million rainbows back in the 80's and the quality of trout went south fast. Too many fish and not enough food. So cut stocking numbers equals more food for less trout - bigger trout. That's how it's worked, that and stocking slightly larger rainbows an average. MDC cut stocking numbers this year because of hatchery problems - flooding. Question is did anyone notice? I don't think so but that's what the creel study will tell us. What if they decide to grant the wish of the anglers in the survey that say less trout - bigger trout. They'll cut stocking numbers again and bump up the size. Right now it's 11.5. If they go to 12, that may cause issues with the trophy area. They may have to bump up the minimum size up there to, say, 13 inches. That would makes things interesting.
  29. 1 point
    Flysmallie

    12/09-12/10

    Well you have changed yours numerous times over the years so you are probably due.
  30. 1 point
    thewhitesnoop

    Clear water

    From what I have read on this board, an average day for Al is around 48 bass and a good day is 75-80 bass. Not keepers.....total fish.....TOTAL FISH I don't care how much like a maniac you fish, those numbers shouldn't achieve legend status. Just because a guy can make an adjustment to the bite when you can't seem to, doesn't make him an amazing angler. I'm willing to admit he is probably in the upper 10% and he does know a ton about streams, but in some ways I would dub him the Bill Dance of stream fishing. Al misses no bites?? The dude never misses a bite or never misses a pattern? Now that IS amazing! In addition, his paintings are legit. I like them
  31. 1 point
    MrGiggles

    Kayak Fishing Stockton?

    I've seen yaks around quite a bit, even on windy days. There is always an area of the lake that will be sheltered from the wind. You'll have to plan your launch carefully and take wind direction into consideration. I would stay off of the north main lake and fish the southern end in the Mutton Creek and Aldrich areas.
  32. 1 point
  33. 1 point
    Seth

    Clear water

    I think it would be awesome to have a fishing tournament between several of us on this forum. I'm sure we could trust each other enough to weigh and CPR the fish instead of having to lug them around all day. There would definitely be some hurt feelings after the day is over with.
  34. 1 point
    Gavin

    Winners and Losers in the Tax Bill

    You could fund qualified education expenses with a Roth, but the annual contribution limits are lower than the 529 limits and no state tax break. Plus grandma & grandpa can contribute to the kid's 529 plans too. I'm not a fan of whole life insurance (lots of hidden fees), but if you do have it you could take out a loan against the policy. The trade off is the increase in the standard deduction v your loss of exemptions. I you are not itemizing now, you will probably pay a little less but not much less.
  35. 1 point
    Chief Grey Bear

    Clear water

    I would like add in all fairness to Al, we have two totally different styles of fishing. Al will fish many miles of stream in a day. 12, 14, 15+ miles in a day. He admittedly catches the easier to catch fish. On the other hand 5-6 miles are about all I'm good for. I enjoy working the brush and beating the banks. We use different styles of baits too. He uses faster baits like spinners and WTD and the like. I use slower baits with lots of soft plastic types and slow wide wobble cranks that pierce deep into the water column . So it stands to reason our experiences on the same waters can be different. I should have stated this earlier but I didn't. After I thought about it for a while I came to realize the reasons why. So I just want to put this out there.
  36. 1 point
    I like this discussion. I'm with @fishinwrench. I like his attitude. I am content with what I have- no complaints. Under the tax plan, I think both plans, our personal taxes are less, not by much. And the resort will enjoy a tax break if we have any profit to claim. We're spending a lot of money on big items this fiscal year but most of it is capital. A few years ago, they let us claim all capital expense, not make us depreciate it out... that was nice!
  37. 1 point
    moguy1973

    Winners and Losers in the Tax Bill

    Scholarships are included in exceptions. If you withdraw without one of the exceptions you must pay a penalty and are taxed on the earnings the 529 has accumulated, but not on the principle. The earnings portion of a nonqualified withdrawal is taxable as ordinary income. In addition, a 10 percent penalty tax must be computed on the earnings portion and paid with your federal tax return, unless you qualify for an exception to the penalty. The exceptions relate to withdrawals made on account of the beneficiary's death, disability, receipt of a scholarship, or attendance at a Unites States military academy. A limited exception also exists for families claiming a Hope credit or Lifetime Learning credit since those credits act to reduce your qualified higher education expenses.
  38. 1 point
    Al Agnew

    Mid Mo Smallies

    Try to find a copy of the late Chuck Tryon's book, "200 Missouri Smallmouth Adventures". While the accesses it lists might not be open these days, it says that the following creeks north of the Missouri River in mid-Missouri hold at least a few smallmouth: Perche Creek Silver Fork Hinkson Creek Bonne Femme Creek Little Bonne Femme Creek Moniteau Creek Cedar Creek Middle River Auxvasse Creek Crows Fork Loutre River Whetstone Creek He does say that smallies are scarce in some of these creeks, though present.
  39. 1 point
    wily

    Sorry to keep bugging

    I'm not a super duper fisherman...but your baits look fine to me....but I doubt you do much on the buzz bait. Check out the map section up top...it will give you general areas to fish...I would probably fish bluff ends in the main lake the most...with the crank bait or drop shot. The end of bluff across from big m has always been good.
  40. 1 point
    Another factoid, Just like you It is noisy and it smokes . Other than that you are right, BilletHead
  41. 1 point
    Hughesy

    Sorry to keep bugging

    Better have a spoon on. 30 to 50 feet. Check out some of Bo's posts. He can catch em.
  42. 1 point
    I fall into the "below average" category but to be totally honest I'd say that my family lives quite well. We have all we need. Nice enough house and 10 acres of land, have some pretty nice things, and although we might have to wait awhile to afford the more expensive things in life we truly don't "want" for anything. When I hear someone who makes 150k/yr. cry about how bad they have it..... I simply cannot relate. I live quite happily on a little more than 1/3 of that.
  43. 1 point
    ollie

    Rod selection?

    I switched to a bait caster this last year due to seeing Buzz and others just tearing it up with a bait caster! I started with an Abu Garcia Black Max and a Berkley Cherry wood rod. Cheap set up to see if I liked it or not. I liked it and will upgrade after the first of the year.
  44. 1 point
    Harps

    Went To The River

    I'm not really bothered either, but I know some people freak out if you kill a bass. Some of those that would freak have no problem putting them in a cage and drag them all over a lake and then release them miles and miles from home. "Sorry Bass...just screwing with ya!" Fish taste good (most of them anyway).
  45. 1 point
    fishinwrench

    Went To The River

    A chip off the ol' block I am. I'm actually not bothered one bit about Oneshot's grocery collecting because I know he doesn't waste a single bite of it. The guys that upset me are the ones that drag them around on a stringer all day and then throw their dead stiff carcasses in the trunk of their car. You know darn well that they end up as catfood.
  46. 1 point
    cheesemaster

    Cape Fair 12/3/17

    I put in at 7:20 and fished a straight worm for a couple hours and had a couple shorts, and a couple swing and misses. It was pretty slow with the worm. I started throwing some cranks, spinnerbaits and squarebill with not much luck at all. I went to the very back of a 50 yard cut with a black Buzzbait with a gold blade and when I pulled it over the top of a log in the far back something took a swipe at it but stopped just short of hitting it. That got me excited because it seemed big. For some reason she pulled away from it. I changed to a black on black Buzzbait and did much better. I caught about 12 on it with 2 good keepers, and they really wanted it. The big one was 3.14 and the other was 3.5 on my scale. It sure was good to get out again and set the hook, it has been way too long. Water temp was 55.7 and I pulled out right at noon. This post has been promoted to an article
  47. 1 point
    tjm

    Went To The River

    It depends, some places (state wide?) 12"-6 fish, some places (special management areas, some or all?) 15"-1 fish. https://huntfish.mdc.mo.gov/fishing/seasons/species this list some of the special management areas https://mdc.mo.gov/search/google-appliance/special%2Bmanagement%2Bareas I think the theory is keep adding more regulations and making them harder to find til only catch and release folks bother to buy a permit.
  48. 1 point
    dan hufferd

    My first Stockton fish

    I am sure that you will get it figured out. You all ready have the right lure. Looks like there was a nice chop on the water. That spoon thing is a fun way to catch them. If you can stay over a school of bait fish for a few minutes, even if it is in the middle of the lake. Packs of whites move through. Notice the depth. Drop the spoon to that depth, wait, when the pack comes through again start jigging. If they are moving bait fish this works well for all species.
  49. 1 point
    jamesedward

    My first Stockton fish

    Also get some bed rigs in green pumpkin and purple and hit the banks by cedar ridge. Tons of 2 lb bass there on those 45 degree bank
  50. 1 point
    jamesedward

    My first Stockton fish

    Let me help you with this. It’s very very simple. Even today you should put your boat in 12’ of water. STAY there. Throw a Stan Sloan spinner bait 1/2 ounce and burn it. I’m talking 1/2 inch under water. Wake that baby and you will catch some big fish. Also throw a rock climber or a wiggle wort in red.
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