here's some trolling info that you may find helpful. A couple of years ago the tv show, G3 sportsman aired a show featuring J R Oldham, a guide on stockton, tolling for crappie. They were using Berkley flicker shads made for walleye in chartruese pearl, there are two sizes, the smaller one works best. it dives to about 8 to 10 ft. We tried it and are hooked, it works !Right now the best place to find them for me has been where the channel runs close to the bluffs in about 20feet of water, two of us in the boat limited out twice last week. IN the spring when they are spawning, it is a great way to catch them in mid day when they move out off the bank. It requires a light action rod and no more than 6 lb test. you can rip one out of their mouth pretty easy. if your in the right place you usually get a couple bonus walleyes too