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  1. This will be a quick report -- mainly because conditions have been changing almost hourly here on Lake Taneycomo. We've been on quite a ride the last four days. Lots of rain this past weekend sent Beaver Lake into emergency dump mode, opening flood gates and releasing water at a rate of more than 25,000 cubic feet per second. This inflow, along with rain from the system, jumped Table Rock to up over 920 feet and triggered another flow of water at 20,000 c.f.s. into Taney. We were a little concerned about the temperature of the water coming over the top of Table Rock Dam since the surface temp on the upper lake now exceeds 80 degrees with summer here. I saw 72 degrees below the dam while down lake, but after the water mixed with water coming in from the turbines, we saw about 60 degrees. While 72 is pretty warm for trout, they could easily move to cooler water. Today, Table Rock Dam operators shut off three of the 10 spill gates, knocking down the flow to 19,000 c.f.s.. While they shut down some gate water, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers brought the fourth turbine back online, so we're still seeing about the same amount of water running without three gates open. Our water temp at the dock went from 60 to 57 degrees, and the water level dropped about 18 inches. When water comes over the spill gates at Table Rock Dam, it brings a whole host of warm water fish, including threadfin shad (which our trout love to eat), needle nose gar, walleye, crappie, white bass, smallmouth bass and all the other types of bass, too. In May of this year, five spill gates were open the entire month, but we didn't see much evidence that threadfin washed over the dam. But this time, with 10 gates open 12 inches each, our trout are attacking anything white -- meaning they are seeing and eating these small shad. We are catching nice rainbows from the cable down to Trophy Run on white jigs, small shad stick baits, spoons -- plus drifting scuds, egg flies, San Juan Worms and shad flies on the bottom. We have not tried drifting a crank bait on the bottom yet. Four-pound line is perfect. Images are from Duane's guide trip this morning. One young man landed two rainbows longer than 20 inches on white shad flies. From Lookout down to Fall Creek, I have drifted a #12 gray scud and caught some nice rainbows. I think that bite is still slow but will get much better as time goes on. I used an 1/8th-ounce bell weight to get it to the bottom on four-pound line. A guest said he did really well today drifting from Fall Creek to Short Creek using orange Power Eggs. He caught a three-pound rainbow among other nice trout. Right now I have nothing else to report, mainly because not many people are out fishing, especially below Fall Creek. Dock fishing is, well . . . very hard with the rapid flow. It looks like we're going to see this water for about a week, maybe a little less. We aren't supposed to see much rain, which will help, but with Beaver so high and water still flowing into the system, it will take about that long to get Table Rock back down to "safe" conditions. View full article
  2. This will be a quick report -- mainly because conditions have been changing almost hourly here on Lake Taneycomo. We've been on quite a ride the last four days. Lots of rain this past weekend sent Beaver Lake into emergency dump mode, opening flood gates and releasing water at a rate of more than 25,000 cubic feet per second. This inflow, along with rain from the system, jumped Table Rock to up over 920 feet and triggered another flow of water at 20,000 c.f.s. into Taney. We were a little concerned about the temperature of the water coming over the top of Table Rock Dam since the surface temp on the upper lake now exceeds 80 degrees with summer here. I saw 72 degrees below the dam while down lake, but after the water mixed with water coming in from the turbines, we saw about 60 degrees. While 72 is pretty warm for trout, they could easily move to cooler water. Today, Table Rock Dam operators shut off three of the 10 spill gates, knocking down the flow to 19,000 c.f.s.. While they shut down some gate water, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers brought the fourth turbine back online, so we're still seeing about the same amount of water running without three gates open. Our water temp at the dock went from 60 to 57 degrees, and the water level dropped about 18 inches. When water comes over the spill gates at Table Rock Dam, it brings a whole host of warm water fish, including threadfin shad (which our trout love to eat), needle nose gar, walleye, crappie, white bass, smallmouth bass and all the other types of bass, too. In May of this year, five spill gates were open the entire month, but we didn't see much evidence that threadfin washed over the dam. But this time, with 10 gates open 12 inches each, our trout are attacking anything white -- meaning they are seeing and eating these small shad. We are catching nice rainbows from the cable down to Trophy Run on white jigs, small shad stick baits, spoons -- plus drifting scuds, egg flies, San Juan Worms and shad flies on the bottom. We have not tried drifting a crank bait on the bottom yet. Four-pound line is perfect. Images are from Duane's guide trip this morning. One young man landed two rainbows longer than 20 inches on white shad flies. From Lookout down to Fall Creek, I have drifted a #12 gray scud and caught some nice rainbows. I think that bite is still slow but will get much better as time goes on. I used an 1/8th-ounce bell weight to get it to the bottom on four-pound line. A guest said he did really well today drifting from Fall Creek to Short Creek using orange Power Eggs. He caught a three-pound rainbow among other nice trout. Right now I have nothing else to report, mainly because not many people are out fishing, especially below Fall Creek. Dock fishing is, well . . . very hard with the rapid flow. It looks like we're going to see this water for about a week, maybe a little less. We aren't supposed to see much rain, which will help, but with Beaver so high and water still flowing into the system, it will take about that long to get Table Rock back down to "safe" conditions.
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  4. Never apologize for giving out good info... thanks for what you do!!!
  5. My understanding is that TR is supposed to run water, keep it below 920 feet. I don't know if it's always been this way but if the level goes above 920, they run 20,000 cfs till it's down below 920, the 15,000 till it's down close to power pool, 917. It's varied some but not much.
  6. Oh.... my..... Dries..... I am so jealous of the White.
  7. Water flowing right now is pretty yucky... dirty, lots of moss. I got 67 degrees on the south, spill side. Not too bad. First fish was a smallie. Couple of rainbows, then the other 5 kicked open and it was over... for a while. Got to clean out, then it'll be good. Saw tons of needle nose gar on the south side. Tons. One cut my friend's line. No shad visible. Lots of top water action though.
  8. From the Corps Please open gates 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9 to one foot (1') each at 0700 in the morning. At 0800 please open the remaining gates (1, 2, 4, 6, and 10) to one foot (1') each. When the openings are complete we should have all 10 gates opened to one foot (1') each. The total spillway release will be 10,500 cfs. Combined with three hydropower units, the total release through the dam will be 20,000 cfs. Please let me know when the gate openings are complete in the morning.
  9. From the Corp: CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIEDWe are looking at beginning spillway releases at Table Rock tomorrow. The purpose of the spill will be to supplement hydropower releases under normal flood control operations. We still have 1 unit down. We are not sure of the timing or amount, but it will likely be the 5,000 - 10,000 range sometime tomorrow morning. I will provide more information as I receive it tomorrow. Rodney RaleyDeputy Operations Project ManagerUS Army Corps of EngineersTable Rock Project Office 4600 State Highway 165Branson, Missouri 65616(501) 340-1932
  10. Looks like Beaver increased flood gates discharge at 10 am. Tailwater level rose by 2 feet. But Beaver is not rising now.
  11. Wow - that's a lot of water for the Elk!! That's more than they're running out of Beaver Lake.
  12. Looks like Beaver hasn't crested yet. 1131.17 feet. They're running just under 20,000 cfs. TR is only rising about a tenth per hour. It's not rising like I thought it would.
  13. MDC said landowner permits have been abused. They've ran checks and found over 35% of permits given out are not even to landowners at all. That's why they need the registry. I need to double check the 35% figure.... They've received very little push back on increasing to 20 ac.
  14. https://mdc.mo.gov/about-regulations/wildlife-code-missouri/proposed-regulation-changes I don't think I've seen this on the forum. Comments?
  15. Might see more running water... with the last rain, Beaver is now running and it looks like TR isn't supposed to stop overnight and tomorrow. Lakes didn't rise much so it might be short-lived.
  16. Fixed... and a few other places where I have broken links. Please report any images that are broken. When I deleted the wordpress side of OA, a lot of images went away. I've fixed a ton of them but there's a bunch more that need to be edited. Thanks
  17. Thanks for mentioning.... I'll have to fix that today.
  18. Son! Is that better? It was cool. Fortunate to land him. He kept flipping around and hitting his tail on my line. Just the power of it should have broken my line, not to mention flipping the jig out of its mouth. Nothing I could do about that. Thanks!
  19. RAIN COULD PROMPT LARGE RELEASES FROM WHITE RIVER BASIN LAKESLITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- The Army Corps of Engineers is advising people in flood plains downstream of Beaver, Table Rock, Bull Shoals and Norfork dams in northern Arkansas and southern Missouri to maintain awareness and monitor lake levels and weather. These lakes remain nearly full from spring rains, and more rain is forecast in the coming days.In the last 180 days, between 25-50 inches of rain has fallen across the White River Basin. The average is between 20-25 inches. During May and June much of the rainfall fell in areas that are not controlled by the White River dams. The uncontrolled runoff from those rains have kept the river high at Newport and Georgetown reducing our ability to lower lake levels without impacting farmers during their crucial planting time.So what does this all mean?"Our water control manual dictates how and when we can release water from our White River dams and we have been making maximum allowable releases from our lakes this spring although they have been holding more and more water," said Col. Robert Dixon, Little Rock District commander. "Our lakes are performing as intended but they have limitations and cannot prevent all flooding."Once a lake is full, it has reduced capacity to lower downstream flood crests. Water still flowing into the lake must be released from the dam because there is no storage space left. This is sometimes referred to as "passing inflow." When passing inflow, a dam does not make conditions downstream any worse than what the natural condition the river would be without the dam in place. It is just that the dam is unable to do as much to reduce downstream flooding under those conditions. "The reservoirs have limitations that Mother Nature can exceed, and sometimes she does," said Dixon. "If the National Weather Service's forecast for the next seven days holds true, we may need to make releases from Beaver, Table Rock, Bull Shoals and Norfork lakes." People in at-risk areas should stay in contact with local emergency officials. If larger than normal releases are required from a dam, warnings will go out through local emergency management channels.
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