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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from dpitt in More minimum flow and a first 2/22   
    They're hitting midges here on Taney too.
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    Phil Lilley reacted to netboy in More minimum flow and a first 2/22   
    Size 16 ruby midges.
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    Phil Lilley reacted to netboy in More minimum flow and a first 2/22   
    SWPA ran a little water this morning but shut it down at 9:00 am. I headed to the dam C&R area and got there at 9:30. Water was already down and fishing was good with some nice size rainbows and a couple of cutthroats. Surprisingly I have yet to catch a brown up there since it reopened Feb 1.
    Now for the first... I was wading in the middle of the river and a guy in a kayak comes straight towards me. I am thinking WTH is he doing? Then I hear, Hi, State Game Warden. So I said cool, what do you want to see? He says license and wants to see my fly. I say great... glad to see you out here. Well I had a bit of trouble digging my wallet out of my back pocket in waist deep water, but finally got to it. I have a 65+ lifetime license for fishing and hunting and all the stamps. Fly was barbless and all went well. He did say he was checking the entire C&R area and said he saw some flies/lures with barbs😒.
    That is the first time I have seen a GW on the water since I started fishing up here 7 years ago. Glad to see them out there as I have picked up quite a few spinning lures with barbed treble hooks from the root wads up there. Also some heavy duty bait rigs with big hooks with barbs.
    Here's a couple of the nicer rainbows...
     


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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from tjm in Using / organizing the forum on Mobile   
    I uninstalled Tapatalk along time ago. It didn’t work very well. 
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from tjm in Using / organizing the forum on Mobile   
    Look at the top bar. See the square that kinda looks like a newspaper?  That’s the “ new content” button. 
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from bobby b. in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 20   
    Me and Duane were talking this morning about shad kill.  There is a good population of threadfin shad living in Lake Taneycomo... we tend to forget about that.  They live in the lower half of the lake where the water temp tends to be higher but I wonder how far up lake would you find them?  Reason being... they should be dying on our lake like the other area lakes.  Bass and trout should be feasting on them.
    We were also talking about below Powersite Dam - in Bull Shoals.  If shad are dying above the dam and getting sucked through the turbines there, walleye and brown trout, among other fish, should be getting a good dose of shad.  That sounds like fun!
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from bfishn in TR Generators   
    The only way they don't get power from Table Rock water is if it goes over the top of the dam, not through the turbines.
    Winter draw downs are a thing of the past.  Some of the reason why is the new set of power pool levels, initiated when they upped the minimum flow below Bull Shoals.
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from bfishn in TR Generators   
    Yeah but why didn't they generate full tilt?  They never got over 3/4 power - haven't run all 4 units full tilt yet this year.  Back in the fall, they were working on turbines and couldn't run all 4 if they wanted to.
    I'm still scratching my head...
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from Jadesjigs in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 20   
    As everyone knows in the Midwest (and North Mexico), we're coming out of a extremely cold weather event.  This cold spell will have a huge impact on Lake Taneycomo going forward.  Why do I say that?  Because we get our water from Table Rock, and in many places on that lake, its surface is frozen from bank to bank.  Because it's so deep, the lake will hold this cold water clear through the summer and into the fall months.  We'll probably see temperatures in the upper 30's on Taneycomo later in April and May, maybe into June.  And water temps in the fall will not rise into the mid 50's like in years past.  This will greatly help water quality for our fall fishing season.
    Threadfin shad are not found in lakes to the north of us.  Those lakes get too cold in the winter to sustain a good population of this species of bait fish.  So this cold spell will affect threadfins in all three White River lakes -- Beaver, Table Rock and Bull Shoals.  We may see some shad die on lower Taneycomo, too.
    Anglers were already reporting dead shad on Table Rock last weekend.  Even with the warmer winters we've been having, shad die-offs are not uncommon.  But with Table Rock's water temps diving into the 30's, we should see massive shad kills lake wide.  If these shad start dying in the dam area, and they reach the depths of 130 feet, we should see threadfins come through the turbines into Lake Taneycomo.
    There's no way to know when this may occur.  But typically we see "shad runs" in March on up into May.  We've seen them as late as June and July.  You just never know.
    One thing that would help suck these shad through is heavy generation.  During this cold spell, the most generation we've seen is about 150 megawatts or three units, three-quarters of the maximum capacity of the system.  Not sure why operators didn't run it a full capacity with the demand for power.  They're now running two units during morning hours and backing it down to less than one in the afternoons.  Table Rock is almost a foot below its seasonal power pool of 914 feet.
    Going forward, our weather looks to be mild and relatively dry, so look for minimal generation with possible periods of no generation.
    Trout fishing has been pretty good.  It does seem like it's much better when generation drops to the 2,500 cubic feet per second flow that we're seeing in the afternoons.  Our water temp has dropped from 43 to 41 in the last two weeks and will probably drop even more in the coming weeks.
     
    The Elfrink Tournament last weekend did not show quite the weights we've had at the last three contests, but they were still much better than past years.  The bright, sunny day with very little wind maybe did not help.  Most trout were caught on jigs, but a few of the big trout were caught on jerk baits early in the day.
    This was a catch-n-release tournament with artificial-only lures and flies.

    Reports did come in of rainbows caught close to the cable at the dam that were spitting up shad.  But because the dam is not running much water, they aren't coming through in droves . . . yet.  There's only a little rain in the forecast, so we might not see much generation for a while.
    A lot of anglers fished a jig or fly under a float.  Sculpin/ginger and black were hot colors.  Fish them close to the bottom wherever you fish unless it's a cloudy, dark day or the wind is blowing and there's a chop on the surface.  Then fish them four-to five-feet deep.  Use a small jig -- from 1/125th to a 1/50th-ounce jig and use two-pound line or 6x tippet.  Our water is clear enough that two-pound line will make a big difference.  Of course,  you can use either a fly or spinning rod when fishing a jig and float.

    There are a lot of trout down in the Branson Landing area, but these are mainly freshly-stocked rainbows.  You can catch them on casting spoons and spinners as well as a jig and float.
    If you're drifting something on the bottom, use just enough weight to get the bait to the bottom and that's all.  Just a small split shot will do.  Minnows and night crawlers usually catch bigger trout -- those that have been in the lake a long time and are accustomed to eating more natural things.  But you'll catch fish on Berkley PowerBai, too, Gulp being the easiest and best to use.
    Duane and I were talking the other morning about shad kill.  There is a good population of threadfin shad living in Lake Taneycomo which we tend to forget about.  They live in the lower half of the lake where the water temp tends to be higher, but I wonder how far up lake could you find them?  The reason being that they should be dying like in other area lakes.  Bass and trout should be feasting on them.
    We've also talked about below Powersite Dam -- in Bull Shoals.  If shad are dying above the dam and getting sucked through the turbines there, walleye and brown trout, among other fish, should be getting a good dose of shad.  That sounds like fun!

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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from cheesemaster in Cape Fair / Virgin Bluff   
    Saw someone ice fishing on TR (Facebook).  When's the last time that happened?!  70's?
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from magicwormman in Cape Fair / Virgin Bluff   
    Saw someone ice fishing on TR (Facebook).  When's the last time that happened?!  70's?
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from terryj1024 in Cape Fair / Virgin Bluff   
    Saw someone ice fishing on TR (Facebook).  When's the last time that happened?!  70's?
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from Quillback in Cape Fair / Virgin Bluff   
    Saw someone ice fishing on TR (Facebook).  When's the last time that happened?!  70's?
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from Zulu in Cape Fair / Virgin Bluff   
    Saw someone ice fishing on TR (Facebook).  When's the last time that happened?!  70's?
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from dpitt in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 20   
    As everyone knows in the Midwest (and North Mexico), we're coming out of a extremely cold weather event.  This cold spell will have a huge impact on Lake Taneycomo going forward.  Why do I say that?  Because we get our water from Table Rock, and in many places on that lake, its surface is frozen from bank to bank.  Because it's so deep, the lake will hold this cold water clear through the summer and into the fall months.  We'll probably see temperatures in the upper 30's on Taneycomo later in April and May, maybe into June.  And water temps in the fall will not rise into the mid 50's like in years past.  This will greatly help water quality for our fall fishing season.
    Threadfin shad are not found in lakes to the north of us.  Those lakes get too cold in the winter to sustain a good population of this species of bait fish.  So this cold spell will affect threadfins in all three White River lakes -- Beaver, Table Rock and Bull Shoals.  We may see some shad die on lower Taneycomo, too.
    Anglers were already reporting dead shad on Table Rock last weekend.  Even with the warmer winters we've been having, shad die-offs are not uncommon.  But with Table Rock's water temps diving into the 30's, we should see massive shad kills lake wide.  If these shad start dying in the dam area, and they reach the depths of 130 feet, we should see threadfins come through the turbines into Lake Taneycomo.
    There's no way to know when this may occur.  But typically we see "shad runs" in March on up into May.  We've seen them as late as June and July.  You just never know.
    One thing that would help suck these shad through is heavy generation.  During this cold spell, the most generation we've seen is about 150 megawatts or three units, three-quarters of the maximum capacity of the system.  Not sure why operators didn't run it a full capacity with the demand for power.  They're now running two units during morning hours and backing it down to less than one in the afternoons.  Table Rock is almost a foot below its seasonal power pool of 914 feet.
    Going forward, our weather looks to be mild and relatively dry, so look for minimal generation with possible periods of no generation.
    Trout fishing has been pretty good.  It does seem like it's much better when generation drops to the 2,500 cubic feet per second flow that we're seeing in the afternoons.  Our water temp has dropped from 43 to 41 in the last two weeks and will probably drop even more in the coming weeks.
     
    The Elfrink Tournament last weekend did not show quite the weights we've had at the last three contests, but they were still much better than past years.  The bright, sunny day with very little wind maybe did not help.  Most trout were caught on jigs, but a few of the big trout were caught on jerk baits early in the day.
    This was a catch-n-release tournament with artificial-only lures and flies.

    Reports did come in of rainbows caught close to the cable at the dam that were spitting up shad.  But because the dam is not running much water, they aren't coming through in droves . . . yet.  There's only a little rain in the forecast, so we might not see much generation for a while.
    A lot of anglers fished a jig or fly under a float.  Sculpin/ginger and black were hot colors.  Fish them close to the bottom wherever you fish unless it's a cloudy, dark day or the wind is blowing and there's a chop on the surface.  Then fish them four-to five-feet deep.  Use a small jig -- from 1/125th to a 1/50th-ounce jig and use two-pound line or 6x tippet.  Our water is clear enough that two-pound line will make a big difference.  Of course,  you can use either a fly or spinning rod when fishing a jig and float.

    There are a lot of trout down in the Branson Landing area, but these are mainly freshly-stocked rainbows.  You can catch them on casting spoons and spinners as well as a jig and float.
    If you're drifting something on the bottom, use just enough weight to get the bait to the bottom and that's all.  Just a small split shot will do.  Minnows and night crawlers usually catch bigger trout -- those that have been in the lake a long time and are accustomed to eating more natural things.  But you'll catch fish on Berkley PowerBai, too, Gulp being the easiest and best to use.
    Duane and I were talking the other morning about shad kill.  There is a good population of threadfin shad living in Lake Taneycomo which we tend to forget about.  They live in the lower half of the lake where the water temp tends to be higher, but I wonder how far up lake could you find them?  The reason being that they should be dying like in other area lakes.  Bass and trout should be feasting on them.
    We've also talked about below Powersite Dam -- in Bull Shoals.  If shad are dying above the dam and getting sucked through the turbines there, walleye and brown trout, among other fish, should be getting a good dose of shad.  That sounds like fun!

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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from tho1mas in Cape Fair / Virgin Bluff   
    Saw someone ice fishing on TR (Facebook).  When's the last time that happened?!  70's?
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from crazy4fishin in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 4   
    When I start my fishing reports, the first thing I do is look at Beaver and Table Rock Lake levels plus generation flows, then I can gauge what Lake Taneycomo's flow should be in the near future.  Right now Beaver is holding at 1,120.37 feet, just above its seasonal power pool level of 1.120 feet.  Operators are running water for about eight hours a day, but the level isn't moving either way.  Table Rock is running about 7,000 c.f.s. or two full units 24/7 and its level isn't moving much either.  It's almost 12 inches over its pool.
    My forecast for Taney's flow is more of the same for at least a week, but I wouldn't be surprised if the flow dropped to one unit for a time,  maybe this weekend.  There's very little rain in the seven-day forecast, so when Table Rock drops close to 915 feet, we may see a serious reduction in flow.

    Phil Stone's client with a beautiful rainbow caught on a night crawler a couple of days ago.  Released.
    With this 7,000 c.f.s. flow, drift fishing is the norm.  But you can do so many things drift fishing.
    Drift something on the bottom like bait (minnows & night crawlers are best, as well as Gulp Eggs, pink PowerWorm) or flies (egg fly, scuds, shad fly) or small jerk baits. Drift and throw marabou jigs. Drift and fish something under a float like a pink PowerWorm or a marabou jig. Drift and cast a jerk bait, cleo or spinner. Drift and fly fish stripping a streamer or floating a scud under a float. What's the best?  The best is the technique you enjoy the most and catch some fish with.  Do we always catch?  Nope.  But it's always fun.
    What's been working lately?  We threw 1/16th- and 3/32nd-ounce jigs yesterday afternoon on One Cast and did pretty well.  But I noticed I had better luck using two-pound line over four-pound.  I haven't been using two-pound much, but our lake water is getting pretty clear, so it may make a difference in some applications as when throwing jigs.  We did catch fish on white and sculpin/peach in the trophy area, but later towards evening I threw a 1/16th- ounce ginger jig with a brown head down closer to the resort and caught some really nice rainbows.  I stayed towards the middle of the lake and worked the bottom.
    Today's One Cast verifies my ginger jig story.
    Some of our guides have been out this week.  They're drifting below Fall Creek and using night crawlers and catching some nice rainbows and an occasional brown trout.
    Our Missouri Department of Conservation recently stocked about 15,000 brown trout averaging about 10 inches.  These trout won't have a lot of color and may resemble rainbows.  You'll need to look closely to see whether you have hooked a brown or rainbow.  Browns won't have many or any spots on the tail and a rainbow will have lots of spots.

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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from magicwormman in Shad Kill ? Oh yes indeed.   
    -18 on my truck dash this morning at 7 am.  It's always colder down here in the valley.
    Taney's water is down from 43 to 40.  Shad don't typically come through the turbines unless they're cranking it... but this isn't typical.  I'll yell from the rooftops if we see any.
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from gotmuddy in Tournament Cancelled   
    Ours is still on... come down and fish for troutskys...
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from fishinwrench in Tournament Cancelled   
    Ours is still on... come down and fish for troutskys...
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from cheesemaster in Big brown on One Cast   
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from Huntingducks117 in Real quick trip 1/10   
    Put in at Wildcat last evening and fished an hour. Water was dropping out. Caught 9 rainbows and 1 brown on a 1/16-ounce jig. 
    This morning we boated from Wildcat to lower Gaston’s and drifted all the way back, 290 mw, 20,000 cfs. White 1/8-ounce jigs mainly but I caught my brown on an 1/8-ounce sculpin/peach jig, sculpin head. 




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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from Seth in Real quick trip 1/10   
    Yes I was holding my brown out a bit. But I’d say he was about 24-inches. 
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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from Seth in Real quick trip 1/10   
    Put in at Wildcat last evening and fished an hour. Water was dropping out. Caught 9 rainbows and 1 brown on a 1/16-ounce jig. 
    This morning we boated from Wildcat to lower Gaston’s and drifted all the way back, 290 mw, 20,000 cfs. White 1/8-ounce jigs mainly but I caught my brown on an 1/8-ounce sculpin/peach jig, sculpin head. 




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    Phil Lilley got a reaction from gotmuddy in Real quick trip 1/10   
    The bearded one is John McCloskey. He’s on the river guiding his clients this month. And Jason is one of John’s clients from Georgia. I know them both from Alaska. 
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