snagged in outlet 3 reacted to moodyfour for a article, June 8
Took my yearly trip on the Jack’s Fork with my dad. Took my 13 year old on his first excursion on Jacks! Was a beautiful day and the river was perfect! Numbers were not as high as normal, but size of fish caught was fantastic. I caught a 2 lb smallie and on my sons next cast he caught a solid 1.5 lb smallie. Caught several between a pond to pound and a half throughout the day. My son lost at least a 2 pounder at the boat and I lost what would have been my personal best smallmouth that I know was 3+. Very disappointing to see her jump and spit my plastic worm at me. Overall it was a great day and my son is ready to go again. Having my father with us just makes it even more special. We have floated the river since I was old enough to go and he still won’t let me run the canoe, even if it means he doesn’t get to fish as much as I do!
As I look at the river levels today after the big rain we sure are glad we went yesterday.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, May 20
What a week makes in time. This week on Lake Taneycomo, the water is off, no generation. And even my good friends and fishing guides are asking, "why???". It's pretty simple really. Everything downstream is flooded and there's no place to move the water to without adding to the flood waters.
There are 2 reasons why the dam operators would start moving serious water through the White River System:
Rainfall runoff would take all 3 lakes to their flood pool levels or The flood waters on the White River at Newport, Arkansas drop to safe levels. Here's some links to sites that are worth watching:
This one shows, among other things, the percentage of storage for each lake. We normally go by lake level (feet) but when managing the lakes, the Corps goes by percentages.
Beaver - 86% Table Rock - 56% Bull Shoals - 88% As you can see, Table Rock Lake has the most room for runoff. Of course, Taneycomo is just a pass-through lake.
At the Newport (Ar) gage, you can see it is at 24 and flood stage is 26 feet. Regulating stage is 12 and the 5-year average is 19 feet. As this drops, Bull Shoals will be allowed to release water from its dam and thus starting the chain reaction at the other days... moving water through the system. But this won't happen until the White drops out through the Mississippi River.
We're hoping for a dry spell all through the White River Basin.
For now, we're seeing either no generation or just a little generation during the afternoon this week. This is a nice change of pace for those who like to fish slower water, or those of us who live to fly fish, we can get out and wade. And yes, fly fishing has been excellent.
I've been boating up to the Narrows and Lookout Island, getting out of the boat and wading those areas and fishing a scud, namely a Perfect Scud we carry in the shop made by Jeremy Hunt.
I'm fishing a #14 gray using 4x tippet and a small hard foam indicator about 2 to 4 feet deep. The fly is weights and I really don't need a split shot, especially if the water isn't running. There are lots of great quality rainbows at the Narrows right now, as you can see in this video I shot the other day.
Watching this on your phone won't give you the full value of this video. The best way to get the most out of it is to go home and watch it on a big screen TV and turn off all the lights. You'll see rainbows beating the gravel for scuds and sow bugs, you'll see them pick them off as they drift down... you'll even see one fish chomp on some rocks and when he spits them out, a small scud comes out of its mouth too.
Yes I did run my scud in front of the camera... that was the point of the video. And I did catch a couple in the first 3 minutes. But I got so much more out of just filming the actions of the rainbows as they went about their business rooting out bugs from the moss and gravel.
I did catch a lot of rainbows, no browns, on the #14 Perfect Scud both Monday and Tuesday. But I think any other scud pattern will work.
In this video, I shot scuds that were trapped in a pool of water. Note the orange in the body. I think it wouldn't hurt to tie a little orange in the body of your fly.
I also caught rainbows on a #14 root beer Zebra Midge under an indicator fished any where from 3 to 5 feet deep, 6x tippet. But I had fun stripping a yellow #14 soft hackle on Monday. it was pretty windy and the chop on the water was perfect for stripping anything. I bet a wooly would have worked too.
The slow water has put the kabosh on the big brown trout party. Blake has been going out and throwing a jerk bait but it isn't as hot as it has been. Duane's client have been throwing it early with a little success but most of the brown they're seeing are chasing and not hitting and the ones that are hitting and hooked are lost. The best bite is the first and last 60 minutes of daylight.
The brown jig with an orange head is reportedly one of the best colors this week, along with the black jig. The trophy area is doing pretty good and so is the Short Creek area. If the water is off, throw a 1/16th-ounce using either 2- or 4-pound or throw a 1/32nd-ounce jig with 2-pound line.
Night crawlers has been good for some and poo for others. I personally have a love-hate relationship with them. They bite them but I can't get a good hook set of them. But there's been nice trout caught this week so far on them. Tubby Johnson from Oklahoma caught this nice 22-inch brown on a worm one evening this week fishing with his grandson, Hunter.
Power Eggs are working when the water is running. An orange/white combination did well for those drifting from Cooper Creek down to Monkey Island.
The Berkley Pink PowerWorm on a small jig head fished under a float 5 to 6 feet deep down around the bridges and the Branson Landing has been "gold" for most of the fishing guides. Duane's clients the other day landed 22 "doubles". That's when both clients have fish on at the same time. Use 2-pound line for best results but 4-pound is probably ok.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 5
I'm sure glad I didn't write an extensive fishing report on Monday for Lake Taneycomo because everything changes today. After more rain fell in the White River Basin above Lake Taneycomo in the past 24 hours, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have decided to open 5 spill gates at Table Rock Dam one foot each this morning, on top of the 3 turbines running at the facility. That equals 15,000 cubic feet of water per second pouring through Taneycomo presently. This equals 4 full turbines.
Beaver Lake is inching up and is at 1128.66 feet, less than 18 inches below its flood pool level. The Corps really haven't made any attempts to drop this level since they had it down to 1121 feet about 3 weeks ago. Table Rock Lake has been holding steady at about 916.5 feet but is now rising slowly because of the rains. Its seasonal power pool is 915 feet but with Beaver so high and Table Rock rising, they really need to move some water!! I'm not sure why they aren't dumping Beaver Lake plus they have been only running 2 units at Table Rock the last 5 days. They need to keep moving this water through... please!!
Fishing continues to be very good, even with heavy generation. With the spill gates coming back on, there's always the chance of threadfin shad coming over, plus a few bass and walleye. We will be testing the waters!!
We have 3 trout tournaments under our belt so far this winter and in the last 2 contests we saw very good quality rainbows come in which is a great sign. Our first tournament was plagued with off colored water after a big rain so fishing wasn't very good. This last Saturday, out of 76 teams, 50 weighed in 7 pounds or more, an 8 trout bag. That's very good.
There are a lot of rainbow trout to be caught in the Branson Landing area right now. We've been fishing down there and catching big freshly stocked rainbows that are over a pound each. We were catching them on various colored jigs while fishing for crappie -- yes crappie!
Some of the tournament contestants were fishing an 1/8th ounce jig on the bottom down close to the Kanakuk Camp and catching rainbows too. I'd imagine you could catch them on PowerBait as well.
With more water running from Table Rock, we'll go back to heavier weights to get to the bottom when drifting baits, lures and flies.
There is a pattern we've seen when they first kick more water on and that is scud flies get real hot. It might be because the heavier flows dislodge scuds from the bottom and up into trout's mouths. It's plausible! So we'll be drifting big #12 gray scuds from the dam down to Short Creek this week along with an egg fly and/or a San Juan Worm.
If you don't book a trip with Duane Doty and don't have his custom painted jerk baits, the MegaBass 110+ is a good match to throw for big browns and rainbows. Good colors would be French Pearl, Ozark Shad, Perch and Elgy Bone.
One of our Outdoor Writers who attended our conference this week brought in a big brown just as I was writing this report this morning. John Neporadny, nationally recognized fishing writer recently inducted into the Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame, caught and released this 13 pound brown on one of Duane's jerk baits. He caught it below Fall Creek about a half mile around the docks. He was fishing with Scott Pauley, outdoor marketing representative for Missouri Tourism.
So we're back to dragging hard minnow baits on the bottom using the carolina rig, 1/4rd-ounce bell weights and 4 to 6-pound line. We carry several lengths and styles in our shop, knock-offs from China because we do lose quite a few baits to the bottom monsters. These baits are like the F-5 and F-7 Rapala, from 2.75 to 3.25 inches long, floating and shallow divers in perch, shad and sculpin colors.
Bill Babler, fishing guide, showed us this week that when he drifts these baits, he takes the front set of treble hooks off the bait, only leaving the back set. He says he doesn't lose as many baits and believes he doesn't miss any fish because of it.
We will be throwing 1/8th ounce white jigs up below the dam this week along with other colors like sculpin, brown and black. But white has been a pretty good color lately... white with gray and white with black also.
REPORT: They are liking white jigs below the dam! Here's evidence:
Snagged in the butt... but still a beautiful rainbow!!
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, November 18
Just in... the spill gates were just closed today at Table Rock Dam after a week or more. Table Rock's level is just north of 917 feet, dropping more than three feet from its high after the last rain event. Beaver Lake is holding at 1,128.5 feet, just a foot and a half below its flood pool. There is rain in the forecast now, but it's due next week, expecting right now about two inches of rain.
Table Rock Dam is now running only 1,400 cubic feet of water per second. The tailwater level is 704 feet, only about 2.5 feet high. Table Rock Lake has turned. The water coming from Table Rock is about 56 degrees, high in oxygen level but turbid. Its clarity isn't the best, but that's normal with Table Rock's turnover. This will last about a month and won't effect fishing that much.
We've enjoyed a good run of threadfin shad over the spill gates as well as lots of warmwater species of fish -- crappie, white bass, walleye, blue gill, black, spotted and smallmouth bass, needlenose gar and spoonbill (I'm sure there are more species but that's what we've been seeing.)
We're in for a week or more of mild weather with daytime temperatures in the 50's and 60's and not much wind. With the slower water -- and less water -- trout fishing should be very good.
With the water running hard yesterday, Guide Don House reported catching very nice rainbows drifting Powerbait from Scotty's buoys down to the Fish House at the Branson Landing. We've sent anglers down there, and they've done well, too. Now that the water is slower, more people will be fishing other areas down lake and reporting back. Honestly, there just haven't been that many anglers fishing so getting a good fishing report, especially down lake, has been tough. I've been fishing down here a little, throwing white jigs along the bluff bank and doing fair, but the trout I'm catching are bigger than average.
This reduction of flow has caught us by surprise. We knew the U.S. Corps of Army Engineers would close the gates and reduce flows when Table Rock dropped to desired level, but we didn't think that would mean a drop from 15,000 to 1,400 c.f.s. in just a few hours.
Ryan and I went out this afternoon to try our luck. I felt like it was going to be really good, or really bad. It was better than good.
Trout were rising aggressively all over the lake as we boated up past Fall Creek and the Narrows, jumping out of the water after hatching midges. Good sign. Quite a few boaters were out fishing and we saw lots of bent rods --- and even better sign! Boated past Guides Steve Dickey and John Sappington and got two thumbs up --- all right!!
I tied on a while 1/32nd-ounce jig on a spinning outfit with two-pound line. Ryan had the same rig but he was using a black/yellow 1/32nd-ounce jig. He caught fish on his first two casts and I didn't get a bite after a few throws. I switched to black and yellow, started One Cast and caught one on the first cast.
Steve Dickey's clients were drifting scuds and were hooked up most of the time we were up there. He told me just yesterday the trout were off the scud, not biting them at all. Today is a new day. They're liking scuds now.
Now we were using two-pound line because we wanted to throw small jigs, but because the water clarity is not-so-good, you can get away with four-pound line for using bait -- just about anything.
Fishing off our dock today was pretty successful. Everyone that I saw caught their limit plus some, throwing a few back. The bait of choice was orange and pink or yellow and pink PowerEggs.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Steve McBasser for a article, 2019 Fall Camp out is complete....10/31-11/2
We have been planning for a Fall camping and fishing trip for the men in my Sunday School class since May. Finally the day comes around and Missouri weather kicks our butt again. Wednesday evening that cold front plowed thru and the temps dropped rapidly. By the time we had the camper set up at Mutton Creek sleet was peppering down on top of it. We came back Thursday morning and set up the rest of camp in anticipation of 15-18 guys coming up to camp and fish. The cold weather prediction however caused several guys to chicken out. We wound up with with only 6 camping Thursday night and 8 on Friday. We had 10 for the fish fry on Friday night but had enough fish for 30..... To say the fish were biting good would be an understatement. We had multiple limits of white bass come in every day. Everybody else slept in heated campers. I was the only one that got to experience 26* and 28* nights in a nylon tent. It was quite the adventure........Food, fun, and fellowship. The evenings around the camp fire were awesome...... We had a ball.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Naknek River Report, October 26-31, 2019
I'd never gone up to Naknek this late... not many people have except locals I'm told. And even then, didn't see but a couple of boats on the river today.
Stayed at Katmai Trophy Lodge near the "rapids" on the Naknek, owned by the Johnson family. They also own Naknek River Camp at the head of the river, at Lake Camp. The camp is closed because all their water lines are exposed, above ground. KTL is a regular lodge with power (electricity) and indoor plumbing so they could stay open all year, if there was fishing to be had.
I went up to spend time with good friend, John McCloskey, one of their main guides at KTL. John did a spey casting clinic for us at the resort last December.
John had 3 clients this week from Georgia. They are clients of his on his home waters in north GA. Jason, Jane and their 9 year old son John.
John specializes is swinging flies and the Cooke's were there to partake. The river was a little high and off color due to rains and an east wind. John says the rainbows don't like dirty water. Water temp was 43-44 degrees.
We had a variety of weather. Three days of winds in excess of 40 mph and a couple "breezy" days. Rain everyday except one. But temps stayed decent - 45 - 53 degrees daytime and rarely dropped below 40 at night. Unseasonably warm, but always windy and rainy. I'd call it normal RAW Alaska weather for late October.
Fishing was good the first day in spite of heavy winds but the bite steadily slowed down each day, like the rainbows were leaving the river. We were seeing some flesh flowing by but not much. Nothing else for them to eat really except may be a sculpin here and there. They winter in Naknek Lake and will migrate there about now. John says they stated one week too long. But the rainbows we did catch were impressive.
They swung flesh and sculpins and I threw my spinning gear and 1/8th ounce jigs. I used mostly 4-pound line but did use 6-pound occasionally. The bigger the rainbow and easier they were to land, mainly because they were so fat with flesh.
We fished flats - fast water spots with depressions and rocks holding fish and depths not more than 3 feet deep. That's what made my jig work, they hit it even if it was real close to the surface - and the swing or worked out in front of me.
I landed 3 - 30+inch bows, 6 bows between 25 and 29, one at 20 and 2 about 15 inches. I lost a couple - one at the net and one broke off. The best color was black/purple and sculpin/ginger a close second.
John played around with the jig and loved it. He couldn't get over how effective it was. I know he hooked several rainbows and landed one that I saw.
They caught a half dozen swinging flies. I know Jason landed a couple pushing 30 inches.
They saw one bear. I wasn't fishing at the time though so I didn't see it. We didn't fish any other areas - stay below the Counting Towers and across from King Island. There were 2 other guide boats out all week with 2 clients each... that's it.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to jfrith for a article, Little Piney creek 10-18
It was my first time fishing the little piney and let me tell you it did not disappoint. Started out right above where Lane spring flows into the main creek at about 7am. Saw several fish spread out rising to what appeared to be very small blue wing olives. I tied on a size 22 BWO and tried for those fish for about an hour and gave up fishless and proceeded downstream (these also may have been creek chubs rising on the hatch so may have been wasting my time). Fished another stretch with confirmed trout with BWO still on, but still had no luck. It was now 11am without a fish, so I continued on downstream. Switched flies to a soft hackle with a green copper John dropper and it was on! Landed my first Piney rainbow, and it was probably one of the most beautiful fish I’ve ever caught. Fished for about another mile downstream and picked up maybe another 20 fish until calling it quits around 3pm. They did not seem to want my dry fly presentation, but anything small and on the bottom (emphasis with on the bottom, bumping across the bottom) and they were on. The fish in this creek are beautiful and the stream is pristine. Reminded me a lot of the neighboring Current in terms of water clarity, size, aquatic vegetation, microfauna, river bank composition, substrate, etc. which makes me wonder why the Current River can’t support a reproducing rainbow population? Could it be due to Montauk at the head waters maybe?
Anyways, incredible day spent and I will be back.
snagged in outlet 3 got a reaction from Greasy B for a article, Labor Day weekend report
I post these on my phone so excuse the typos. I’m down here with family again and last night I stayed up late playing cards. Put in at Cooper at 9 and ran to the cable. Threw jigs and fly fished until 2. It was on from ding to dong. It stayed overcast till noon and they were biting. Saw Babler, Chuck and a multitude of other guides and all were catching. I don’t mess with em much just lay on the board and snap a picture. The last dark one is 16” all the rest just under that
Tubing on Tanlerock tomorrow with the kids but I’ll be back out Monday.
snagged in outlet 3 got a reaction from Dock-in-it for a article, Vacation Trip Report
Got to Cooper at 6 am. Heavy fog and then thunder and quick light rain. Slowly made my way upstream in the fog. Boats scattered around fishing. 35 megawatts till 9 or so and then they ramped it up to 150 when I left
Threw the jerk till noon. No fish caught after 10:30. Had around 10 to the boat, rolled another 15 or so and had at least that many followers. Never caught a rainbow although at times groups would follow it all the way to boat.
A couple of the browns that I rolled or had on for a while were real nice. One XL brown followed the jerk to the boat and he was a tank.
Back at it tomorrow. @Travis Swift I swear I had all my bass gear but I just couldn’t leave my regular milk run.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, July 9
Generation on Lake Taneycomo has remained fairly consistent. Dam operators are running four full units every afternoon and into the evening, probably because of the heat (creating power demands.) In the mornings, the water is either off or they're running 30 to 40 megawatts, or less than a half unit. This is great water for wading below the dam. Beaver Lake's level isn't moving, while Table Rock's level is inching down. Bull Shoals Lake's level is not moving much either but is trending down a bit.
Powersite Dam is still broken. The baffled gates across the top of the spillway part of the dam are in the down position, causing Taneycomo's "normal" level to be about four feet lower. This causes a lot of trouble for many dock owners as well as boaters.
The docks at Rockaway Beach are beached -- literally.
Up our way, boating past Trout Hollow Resort is very tricky. Most anglers are dropping the trolling motor and running up to Short Creek where there's deep water on the channel side. Going from there to almost Fall Creek Marina is still not easy. There are several stumps and trees in the channel that come into play. Boating past Fall Creek's bar is another trolling motor ride.
No Generation --
Guide Bill Babler reports catching good rainbows on a Turner half micro jig under a float. He said olive is the color, with an olive head. Use two-pound line and set the float according to depth of water you're fishing. Fish it about a foot off the bottom.
Guide Duane Doty, picture above, is putting his clients on fish using either a pink or orange PowerWorm on a jig head under a float. He's using the same rig as Babler -- two-pound line and at the same varying depth.
With both guides the bite has been quick and slight. You really have to watch the float and be quick on the set.
Throwing small jigs straight-line is working pretty well, too, using two-pound line and 1/32- to 1/16th-ounce jigs worked in the deeper, channel water from the Landing up to Fall Creek. If you can get above Fall Creek, that technique works up there, too. Use darker colors over lighter colors -- sculpin, brown, sculpin/ginger, brown/burnt orange.
When the water starts, drift a #12 or #14 scud using a drift rig on four-pound line, from the dam down to Short Creek. Stay in the middle to the inside bend. Your weight should be on the lighter side, and you should check your flies for moss every 100-200 yards. I've been doing okay using different shades of gray, olive and brown scuds.
White jigs from the cable down to the boat ramp are still catching trout, but that has tapered off quite a bit since the spill gates were closed. Use 3/32nd-ounce jigs even with four units on four-pound line.
Stick baits are doing pretty well catching mainly brown trout from the dam down to Fall Creek working the channel side of the lake. Any medium diving lure similar to a MegaBass 110+ is what we recommend. You'll get a lot of strikes and follows but not a lot of landed fish. But you have a better chance landing a big trout using this technique.
Night crawlers are doing the best in the bait category. Drifting them on the bottom from Fall Creek clear down through the Landing area has been good, yielding some really nice quality rainbows.
**All photos taken on guide trips with Captain Duane Doty. See his Facebook Page for information.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, July 1
Generation has taken another turn this week, one that will make our fly fishing buddies happy. There is no generation in the mornings right now, but then operators are cranking it in the afternoons. But there is a catch . . .let me explain.
In my fishing reports the last couple of weeks, I've mentioned problems at Powersite Dam, Taneycomo's lower dam. There's a baffle gate system that runs on top of the spillway part of the dam, let down in case of flooding. One of the baffles is stuck in the down position, allowing the lake to drop an additional three feet when there's no generation. And when one or two units are running, our lake level here on the upper lake is still pretty low and the current is fast.
When our lake is drawn down like this, a vast area of gravel above Fall Creek is exposed to air -- hot air and sunlight -- which cooks the bugs (scuds, sow bugs), not to mention the sculpin that get marooned in small holes that dry up. This morning, no water was run to help this situation, but I'm told tomorrow dam operators will "pulse" water throughout the morning to keep this area watered. We will see.
Boating this low water is tricky, especially above Trout Hollow. Take it very slow and stay in the channel to Fall Creek. Pick your way through the Fall Creek bar, then at the narrows, really take it slow. Just consider that the water is two to three feet lower than normal and a lot of these areas are already pretty shallow. But our water is clear, and you can see the bottom.
A young man reported that he had caught a lot of trout just below Fall Creek on Power Bait . . . I just did not ask him what color. Another guest here at the resort, a seasoned jig fisherman, said it's been tough for him and his dad yesterday and today. He said he's been getting short strikes. I sympathize with him. I've had the same problem. I told him that that's fishing and that these trout will go through spells when they're just not aggressive.
Taking some friends on a boat ride this morning, I saw some of our guides catch fish down at Monkey Island on the pink worm under a float. Then I saw something I reported back to those guides -- a bunch of trout midging on the surface just upstream of Main Street Dock, at the Landing. These typically are a school of freshly stocked rainbows, easy to catch with something under a float (jig, pink worm), a spoon, spinner or a small jig.
Another report I got this morning was from a fly fisherman, wading and fishing below the dam. He caught a lot of nice trout on an olive wooly bugger up around outlet #1.
One last thing -- I've been told that we may see heavy generation here on Lake Taneycomo starting next week. At some point, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will be cleared to start releasing some of the water from all three lakes in this system. This may not be the big release but it could be the start.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, June 28
I know it's only been two days since my last report, but conditions have change so much that hardly none of the June 26 report holds true for fishing Lake Taneycomo. Here's why.
The short answer is that the spill gates at Table Rock Dam were closed yesterday morning.
In just a matter of a few days, Beaver Lake was dropped from a high of 1,131.5 feet above sea level to its present level of 1,129.1 feet I think the release was about 25,000 cubic feet per second of water at the heaviest flow. This was in response to a four-inch rain over the weekend that sent the upper White River and other feeder streams out of their banks. Just north of the basin, flash floods sadly inundated the towns of Anderson and Cassville, Missouri, as well as other communities in the area.
All of this runoff water eventually feeds Table Rock and that sent its level from 917 to 921 feet -- its present level. When Table Rock hit 920 feet, 10 spill gates were opened to allow a little more than 20,000 c.f.s. of water to pass through to Lake Taneycomo. Only after a few days, the inflow of water into both lakes became manageable through only turbine releases, so spill gates on both dams were closed (Thursday morning.)
Presently, Table Rock is releasing 6,000 c.f.s. (two units) of water in the mornings and 10,000 c.f.s. (three units) of water in the afternoons. Water temperature is about 47 degrees and clear. And with little to no rain in the seven-day forecast, I believe this is the most water we'll see for a while. We may see even slower generation in the near future.
One other thing about lake levels. Note that Bull Shoals is now at 687.9 feet and rising. Beaver and Bull Shoals are being held at high levels because of the flooding on the Arkansas and Mississippi Rivers. Once these rivers can take water releases from the White River basin, both our tail water, Beaver's tail water and the White River tail water will see heavy flows, probably through the month of August.
When the spill gates at Table Rock Dam were open, we saw an influx of warm water that affected our scud population (freshwater shrimp.) They had babies basically . . . lots of babies. It's amazing how fast they multiply given the right environment. We also saw a pretty good flow of small threadfin shad and other small forage fish. Yes, the "white bite" was on! And so was the scud bite. And boy was it good!! And it still is.
We are seeing some of the most beefed up rainbows in all my years of fishing this lake. We are catching 17- to 19-inch rainbows that weigh three to four pounds, in some cases, and it's not all just big bellies either. These fish are brutes -- big shoulders -- just big. And fight . . . I've always said the Alaskan rainbows we catch fight harder than any trout I know, but these are giving them a run for their money. It's exciting.
Fishing from the cable below the dam down to Trophy Run, stay in the middle and drift, using a drift rig, 1/8th-ounce bell weight, four-pound line and either a single or double fly rig -- #12 or #14 scud in dark gray, olive or brown. You can run it with an egg, shad fly or San Juan Worm as the second fly also. Some are using a white or cream Mega Worm and catching fish.
You can drift these flies all the way down to Trout Hollow but stay either in the middle of the lake or on the inside bend -- stay off the bluff side.
Jigs - white, of course, have been working, but as the "white bite" lessens, switch to a sculpin, olive, sculpin/ginger or peach, brown/orange or black jig. Use four-pound line when throwing 1/8th- or 3/32nd- ounce jigs and two-pound line when throwing smaller jigs. Try a smaller jig under a float.
Drifting night crawlers or orange PowerEggs from Fall Creek down to Short Creek has been good. I've been fishing the inside bank from Cooper Creek down to Monkey Island throwing a variety of jigs and catching some real nice rainbows.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, June 4 Fishing Report
Here on Lake Taneycomo, we're finally seeing some slower generation after months of high water. But we're an oasis in the middle of flooding, all around us. There are so many people affected by flooding, our hearts go out to them. We could easily be in the same position if weather patterns shift.
We've had rain this past week but our watershed hasn't been blanketed with inches, only isolated storms delivering a half-inch at a time which soaks into the ground with little runoff. So our lakes are not jumping up and generation has slowed.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have been running up to 3 units, starting early in the morning and shutting down after dark but this isn't the case every day. Today, they are not running water until 2 p.m. which gives those who like to fish from the bank, or dock or wade a chance to enjoy some quiet water. Hard to say what will happen in the coming days... we are forecasted to get quite a bit of rain this weekend but we will wait and see what falls and where.
Duane had a guide trip this morning, early, and Steve did great throwing a stick bait. He landed 4 rainbows over 20 inches, all in the lower trophy area.
Speaking of scuds, a beaded scud under an indicator works well, using 6x or 2-pound line from Short Creek up. So will a zebra midge. I really don't have specific colors and sizes because I haven't been out to try it yet. Same size tippet on the Zebras.
Air injected night crawlers almost always catches fish anywhere on the upper lake but especially in the Short Creek area.
The pink Powerworm caught this 15-pound brown in the Short Creek area last week. We like to think a brown is smarter than that, growing from a 12-inch stocker to a 30-inch brute without being caught. Taking a pink Powerworm shouldn't have been on this guy's menu.
See all the trophies caught and released on our Trophy Page.
Black/Olive marabou jigs have been doing pretty good so far this week, even out fishing the sculpin/peach jig. White is still the color on the first half-mile of the lake, then switch to the darker colors.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, Taneycomo Fishing Report, May 29
I'm writing a fishing report for the Kansas City Star this morning. The deadline is today at noon. But because of the timing of this report, most of it is speculation on my part. Why? Because conditions have changed in the last 24 hours, and they will change again in the next 24 hours. Let me try to explain.
On May 1, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers opened five spill gates at Table Rock Dam, releasing 5,000 cubic feet per second of water to make up for a turbine that was down. The combined flow was 15,000 c.f.s.. This has been the release rate every day up until yesterday at 1 p.m. when officials shut those gates as well as one turbine. Last night, they shut down all turbines -- so zero generation. Big change.
Today, we will have several rounds of storms move through the area dumping an estimated one to four inches of rain on our watershed. That will send lake levels up, and will force the Corps to start the flow again. The big questions are how much rain and how much flow?
Beaver Lake is at 1,126 feet, five feet over power pool. Table Rock is pretty much at power pool since it is recorded now as 916-917 feet. But officials have shown they're not messing around with any water over power pool on Table Rock, releasing at least 15,000 c.f.s. of water if the lake goes over that power pool mark. Beaver, on the other, hand historically has held water right up until near flood stage which is 1,130 feet.
What does slower generation mean on Taneycomo? For most fishermen it means easier fishing. Easier because there's less water to deal with --- less flow, less depth. But there's something else to mess with your mind . . . colder water. With no spill gates, the water coming through the turbines is about 46 degrees. This is about 10 degrees colder than the combined flow of gates and turbines we've been seeing. Will that slow down the bite? It may for a short time, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. The change in flow will make trout move and adapt, which may slow the bite down a bit, too.
I fished last evening after the gates closed and found fishing pretty good, not great, but good. I fished basically from the dam to just past the Narrows (all in the trophy area) and caught rainbows consistently on mainly a white jig. They didn't want a darker jig. Of course, our trout have had a ton of food to eat all winter and spring so they're all beefed up.
We started reporting that drifting scuds was the ticket earlier in the spring, and for the last couple of weeks we've had a run on the flies. I think there's a ton of people that thought a scud was a missile -- ones who had never used a fly before, much less drifted one like a night crawler. But we've sold over a thousand of the bugs this month, and I don't think the fly is going to lose its effectiveness any time soon. Side note: If you're a fly tyer and want to tie scuds for our shop, please let us know!!!
I could go on and report on what has been working, but it's hard because I don't know what our water condition will be in the coming days. I will say if the flow stays down -- less than 15,000 c.f.s. -- use the same thing that's been working but with less weight. Same jigs but smaller. Rig some rods with two-pound line because the smaller 1/16th- and 1/32nd-ounce jigs will start working.
One thing that's great about less water -- dock fishing should be decent! Easier for sure. And anglers who like to wade below the dam will have more options.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to arsenal1477 for a article, Sat May 11-Sat May 18
Much apologies for the delay in this report as getting back to the grind at work has me consumed. Of my 34 years coming down to Table Rock Lake only one word comes to mind: WOW. It has been a very long time since I have seen the lake fish like this. Here is a quick snapshot of our trip by the numbers, per day:
Sat May 11- On water by 630pm, off the water by 10pm. 15 caught, 3 keepers.
Sun May 12-On water by 930am, off water by 430pm, back on the water by 630pm, off the water by 12am. 50+ fish caught, 13 keepers.
Mon May 13-On the water by 10 am, off water by 430pm, back on the water by 7pm, off the water by 1am. 50+ fish caught, 20 keepers.
Tues May 14th-On water by 3:30pm, off water by 1am. 40+ fish caught, 10 keepers
Wed May 15th-On water by 3:30pm, off water by 1am. 30+fish caught, 8 keepers.
Thurs May 16th- On water by 4:00 pm, off water by 12am, 30+ fish caught, 6 keepers.
Friday May 17th- On water by 6pm, off water by 2am. 40+ fish caught, 8 keepers.
Saturday May 18th- On water by 10am, of water by 12pm. 20+ fish caught, 2 keepers.
That is correct, we finished our 7 day trip with exactly 70 keepers and easily 250+ fish caught, with a 20LB flathead as our "kicker". Of these fish I would say only a handful were at the 15" mark, most were over 16". Besides the catfish, largest Smallie was 4.5lbs, Largemouth at 5.5lbs and Spot at 3lbs. You already know what the were caught on: Keitech 2.8-3.3(bumping the bottom), smoke grub, NED, white fluke thrown into the bushes and at night we were throwing salt craws and the tried and true black colorado blade 3/8th. 80% of these fish were caught in the White as the clarity the first half of the week was an easy 10'-12'. The other 20% were caught up the James as the water started to turn green(almost too green-Algae boom). Of the 70 keepers, 5-8 were female and 2 were spawned out. Simply incredible. If you have a beginner or a little one you want to get hooked into fishing, this is the perfect time. Below are some pictures. Tight lines all, enjoy this time on Table Rock.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to 196champ for a article, Shell Knob to Big Creek 5/4 - 5/5
Fished Shell Knob to Big Creek last weekend, lake was in much better shape than anticipated.
Had a lot of work to do around the house so was only able to get out a few hours each day and made the most of it. Seems to be many ways to catch them but the swim bait on gravel was the most consistent.
Saturday - poked around with a wacky rigged senko and a spook, caught a few early but wasn't what i had expected. with the clear water i went and idled a few gravel banks/flats outside of spawning pockets and there they were. Caught them on a 1/4 oz head and 2.8 speed shad, color didnt seem to matter. boat in 30-40 casting toward the bank, a few locations were just flat on! Headed back out in the afternoon for a few hours and hit some more gravel with the same results. Lots of big fat smallies and keeper sized spots.
Sunday - was stuck fishing the Campbell point area due to the fog and had some great blow ups on a spook in the flooded bushes early, only connected with a handful. Also picked up a few largemouth in the 17" range on a large swimbait shallow, saw several fresh beds and fish cruising shallow, eager to eat. Loaded up and went to do chores, came back and fished from 11-1 on the gravel with the small swimmer, a little slower but they were still there and left them biting as it was time to head back home. Hope this helps!
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Phil Lilley for a article, National Youth Fishing Tournament
I had the honor today to captain a couple of Jr High boys from Springfield in the aforementioned tournament today on Table Rock. I had William and Sam Kuzemka in my boat. We launched out of State Park, first cast at 6:35 a.m. on the first point NW of the ramp close to the Branson Belle.
They started out throwing a swim bait (grub) but I quickly switched them to a ned and it was on. They fished my smallmouth banks in Jakes, Powerline and Clevenger Coves... all the ones I could remember. I don't think I got over there any last spring so I was going off my long-time memory.
Set the boat in 16-20 feet most of the time until the fog burned off about 10 a.m., then we backed out to 30 feet. I had them fish the bottom although every 3rd or 4th cast came back with the green slime.
They had about 13 keepers, all smallies expect one spot. We culled a couple of 16-inchers and had one kicker brown about 3.5 pounds. All bass except the spot appeared to have spawned - they had no pouches at all.... but what do I know, I'm a trout guy. Had may be the same number of shots plus 3-4 nice gogs (which I'm going back for this week!!).
The boys weighed in at 13.58 and took 2nd out of 60 teams.
260 teams in the high school division... weigh in at White Water. Needless to say there was a traffic jam getting into the lot, which was basically full when I left at the beginning of the High School weigh in period. I hope they pulled it together cause .... well you know.
Ulrich was there with 2 pontoons/tanks for the catches. Babler said they do a good job keeping them alive and back in the lake.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Quillback for a article, April17, Big M area
Got out early, flat calm, threw a top water and had some decent fishing for the first couple of hours walking the dog. Caught a couple dozen on the top water with a few keepers mixed in. The fish were on main channel banks and in the coves, the best bite was over 5 - 10 FOW. Wind kicked up about 10 AM and the top water bite pretty much stopped when that happened.
Could not get much going on the Keitech or the shaky head. For the most part the fish looked to be gone from the main lake points that they were on just a couple of days ago.
Threw a crank on some windy banks, no touches on it.
Wind really started blowing, bite was slow, so I left at 1230.
First two casts caught these two fish:
Only Keitech keeper:
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Quillback for a article, April15, Big M area
Fishing was a little different today, caught 30 spots, not one largemouth or smallmouth. Most came on a 3.3 Keitech on a 1/4 oz head, caught a couple on the swing jig/Menace and one on top water. Fish were on main lake points and windy banks, usually in 5 -20 FOW.
Caught 3 walleye, one was a keeper, a couple of crappie and even a rainbow trout, but no dang largemouth or smallmouth.
WT 56, but I don't remember looking at it after 10 AM or so, I bet it warmed up later in the day.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Alex Heitman for a article, Dam and long creek 29-31
Had a boys trip out of happy hollow this weekend. Started at the dam and caught some good smallmouth Friday on a rock crawler early but decided to head all the way up long creek by yoccum. We caught very little up that way and disappointed in water color and the bite. Big fish of the weekend was around 4 lbs caught before the storm hit on a spinnerbait. After the rain rolled by we went back to around the dam and caught keepers on a rig but nothing big. Couldn’t get much on a jerkbait or anything else. Really thought we would get into a better bite but didn’t happen. Saturday was brutal and the roughest water I’ve seen on table rock. Waves were massive and the wind didn’t let up. Fish were extremely close to cover and tight lipped and would only swat at arig and jerkbait. Had a great time and I’m sure they are biting somewhere but we didn’t get into them. Friday was best day and a friend and I probably had around 13-14 lbs. I thought the nasty weather would turn them on but we must have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Can’t wait for the next few weeks and more stable fishing.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Quillback for a article, 2 days out of Big M
Fished with Liphunter (Mike) Tuesday morning, we started at daylight and fished until 1 PM. Real foggy to start with which limited where we went at first. We tossed Neds for most of the time, found enough fish to stay busy, just couldn't get much quality. We caught around 30 total, mostly spots, one or two largemouth and a nice keeper sized brown fish. Almost all on the Ned, did catch a few on the Kietech and Mike had one to the boat that got off of a Rock Crawler. Fish were located in the main channel off steep banks and points.
Today I was solo, got out again at 7 AM and fished until 1 PM. No fog so I was able to motor to a timbered point that I knew was holding early morning fish. Got there to flat water and a few fish on top chasing shad. Threw a jerker at them, they didn't really seem to want it, but did catch a couple, one being a smallmouth that seemed to have challenges getting the bait in it's mouth.
Switched over to the Keitech, slow rolled it, sometimes casting to the bank, and sometimes working the deeper water in front of the boat. Caught fish shallow and deep on it, several keepers.
Read some reports on here of people catching fish with clipped tails, never noticed any like that myself, but I'll be darned if I didn't catch a nice spot that appears to have the top of its tail clipped.
There's a Keitech in this fishes mouth, you can just barely see the jig head.
Pretty sure this is a mean, fish was a little darker than the photo shows.
I did catch a couple on the Ned, but today was mostly about the Keitech.
Water temps from 49-52.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Quillback for a article, February 1 - Big M area
Put the boat in the water about 7:15 AM and fished until 2:30. Is was a cloudy, misty morning with little wind.
Started off on a long rocky ledge and stayed there for a good chunk of the morning, with the flat water there was a bit of top water activity, bass were coming up and swirling on shad. I caught several on a Pointer 78 and picked up a couple of good crappie also on the Pointer. Once the Pointer bite got slow, I switched out to the Ned and picked up some more bass, slow dragging on the bottom.
Once the bite died down on the ledge I bounced around fishing some points and steep banks. The fish got squirrelly, I bet I had another 8 bites and every one of those fish got off.
Only other boat I saw today was Tom from Eagle Rock, he was catching some too.
I caught 13 bass, good keeper ratio today, 6 or 7 were keepers.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Quillback for a article, Indian Creek, 12/16
Got to the launch a little late this morning, wish I had gotten there at daylight. I say that because when I got to the launch there was striper activity on top, right out on front of the launch. I only lasted for an hour or so, fish were a little finicky as to what they wanted, but I did manage to get one in the boat that I estimate was about 8 lbs. Caught it on a tail spinner.
After the striper activity stopped, I went up Indian creek and threw the Ned around. Caught 8 bass, 12-15" fish, mostly spots. Fish were for the most part in 10-15 FOW. Scattered, never found a bunch of them in one place. Caught a walleye that was just a shade over 18", it joined the striper in the live well.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to Skeeter ZX190 for a article, December 12 bass report
This was my first time on Stockton since last July. I had a couple of things going against me. First was a new hat. Wasn't broke in yet. New hats aren't lucky. Second was that the bass were probably mad at me for not fishing Stockton in about 6 months! 😀 Put in at 10:30 am at Orleans Trail and fished till sundown. Water temps hovered around 46 to 47 degrees. I fished between Orleans Trail and State Park Marina. Ended up with 15 bass with 4 keepers. I caught the trifecta. The largest bass was 18 inches. Also had a 17 incher. The other 2 keepers were just over 15 inches. Caught 1 bass on a jerk bait, 4 on the A-rig and everything else on the Ned. Secondary points with a fast drop seemed to be best. I had no idea where I would find them and I spent too much time looking too far back in the bigger creek arms. I found my fish from the main lake to about halfway back. Plus with the lake this low, the fish just aren't where I would normally find them at normal pool. It was a simply gorgeous day on Stockton.
snagged in outlet 3 reacted to bobby b. for a article, 11/30 and 12/1 short trips
Got out for an hour each evening right before sunset.
Found fish half way back in a creek in about 40 fow over 60 fow. around lots of bait fish. On 11/30 the bait was thick on the bottom but today was high in the water column. Yesterday slab spoon worked and today, shad shaped worm.
More importantly for me, been duck hunting the last three weeks with OK success but it will be better with cold weather.
Some fish pics and one pic of my new lab (first year out).