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Al Agnew

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  1. No. He's supposed to be a leader, not a hired hand. Especially in a time like this. He's supposed to inspire confidence in a troubled time, and this does exactly the opposite.
  2. Mitch, this was in a news conference about the virus. Don't you think the President should be, if nothing else, a steadying influence on the American people in times like this? To rise above the politics, support the experts, listen to what they say, and most importantly really PLAN what he's going to say in news conferences, and discuss what he's going to say WITH the experts BEFORE the news conference to get their advice on what to say about the progress of the research and knowledge of this disease, and to assure the American people that they are on top of it. Unless you're a blind Trump supporter, you just CAN'T think that what he was suggesting as if it was a great idea and he was sure the experts were going to pursue it would be taken any way but "What?? Are you kidding me??" It certainly does not inspire confidence in most people that he's on top of things.
  3. Oh for God's sake...there's a world of difference between "brainstorming" wild ideas around a campfire, and doing it in the middle of a news conference with REAL experts in attendance. Don't you think that the time to do the brainstorming, if it had any value at all, was before the news conference WITH the experts, who could then privately tell him whether it's a viable line of research or not? Yeah, the media is out to get him when they televise his news conferences and...actually quote him in news stories. I really thought this was indefensibly stupid, but I guess I was wrong. Some people can apparently defend it. Personally, I'd meet with the experts before ANY news conference, discuss with them what was going to be addressed, and get their feedback on what to say and more importantly what NOT to say to the American public.
  4. Hunt's Brothers fan here. Get their everything on it pizza with extra cheese, doesn't matter if it's thick or thin crust. Would rather have it than most restaurant pizzas. But if you ever get out to Livingston MT, get one of the pizzas at Gil's Goods or the Murray Bar (next door to each other and it all comes from the same oven). About as good as pizza gets.
  5. So how would this microchipping thing work? The next time you go to the doctor or dentist they tell you you need a shot and inject it into you? Jack booted thugs breaking down your door to hold you down while they implant it? Mind control...you don't remember that two hour period last Thursday where they were set up outside the local Walmart and lured you into their van? Wait a minute...those dang 5g cell towers are making you sleepwalk out the front door, where they are waiting to pounce upon you, and then you don't remember it in the morning except for a slight stinging sensation in your butt--must be a chigger bite? Or maybe when Trump's idea of being injected with disinfectant to kill all the coronavirus particles in you takes hold, we all get the chip in our injection. (Yes, he DID say that!)
  6. Mitch, I read the article Reilly wrote about this in Spiked...tried to read it carefully and decide whether he was missing anything. What I came up with was a question or two... First question: Does the date of WHEN the lockdown orders came into effect have anything to do with it? What was the situation in a given state when they decided to go lockdown instead of just advising measures like social distancing? In other words, was a greater number of cases and greater number of deaths already "in the pipeline", so to speak, by the time they put everything in lockdown? Were many of those states already having greater numbers than the states that never instituted lockdowns? Second question: And related...what was the progression of cases in lockdown states compared to non-lockdown states? From 7 days or 14 days after lockdown, was the graph of new cases and deaths as steep or steeper in lockdown states as non-lockdown states? Did lockdown flatten the curve as much or more in the lockdown states (starting 7-14 days after lockdown) as the non-lockdown states? You figure the cases within the first 7-14 days were already in the pipeline, but did lockdown help or not after that, compared to states that never locked down? Third question: He took into account in his statistics the population density of lockdown and non-lockdown states. But the non-lockdown states have one big thing in common...they do not have ANY really large cities, except for Utah with Salt Lake City. And, some of them have very large areas with VERY small populations...and not a lot of reasons for people outside those areas to come to them during this thing. Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, South and North Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming are the states. Of those, only Arkansas and Iowa don't have huge areas with very few people and not much attraction to visit. There are still a lot of counties in most of those states with ZERO cases, and not much chance of somebody coming into those counties carrying the virus. The only chance is if a resident of those counties travels to a larger city and picks it up and brings it back. And because of the lack of population density in those types of places, how many people is that person actually going to contact and give it to? While I think the guy did a pretty good job of considering variables, I don't think you can make any kind of valid comparison unless you are comparing states that are VERY similar in all ways. Missouri has two major cities with surrounding suburbs, and a lot of smaller towns scattered all over...and it has a lot of places that people are wanting to visit while this thing is going on. You can't compare it to Nebraska, with only one city that could even come close to being considered major (barely), a bunch of counties with few towns, and nowhere in it that would attract a whole bunch of people from Omaha to go and play. Not to mention the much greater diversity of jobs and industry in Missouri compared to Nebraska. I don't know if locking things down was the best thing to do or not. But in a lot of states, including Missouri, it wasn't a panic decision, it was more based upon the fact that people apparently weren't paying much attention to the guidelines that had been set up, so they were made mandatory. And I think we may not be far enough into this thing to be making any decisions as to whether lockdown was a good idea or not. I'm waiting to see what happens as states decide to drop the lockdown, like Georgia is doing. If, as many expect, the curve shoots back up, THAT will tell you more about whether the lockdown was useful. Heck, it's all a big experiment, because this is all completely new and nobody had a clue how to handle it. The whole world is flying by the seat of its pants on this thing.
  7. According to MO case law, you can use any gravel bar. Every gravel bar on every stream except the ONSR and Eleven Point is private. But the public has an easement to use any of them.
  8. No gauge on the Courtois. The gauge on the Huzzah is usually pretty close, since the two streams are side by side and about the same size. Whatever the Huzzah is flowing at the gauge is what Courtois is flowing on the lower section, more or less. The Courtois is usually floatable from about Highway 8 down, and depending upon how much water you want to cover, you could go from there to Bass River Resort, or from there to Scotia Bridge where the two streams come together. It's about 9 miles from Hwy. 8 to Bass, a bit under 15 miles from Hwy. 8 to Scotia Bridge. Pretty much, if the Huzzah gauge is over 100 cfs you shouldn't have many problems floating in loaded boats, and if it's much over 300 cfs you're gonna be really honking down the creek, just about too fast to fish and tricky to float. It should be easily floatable this time of year barring heavy rain, and if we do get a heavy rain and a big rise, these streams go down fast are are usually floatable in 3 or 4 days at most.
  9. Yeah. There is a LOT of stress induced from this whole situation. Sometimes I wish I had an IQ of about 80 and no imagination. Then I could just blithely go about life without imagining all the bad things that could happen with this virus. One big problem with being at home and doing all the yard work, furniture building, fixing things that have needed fixing for a while, etc. is that I'm invariably finding that I need to go to the hardware store for a few things to get the jobs done, and I ain't willing to go to the hardware store. You have to really think about just how important ANYTHING you seem to need is.
  10. That was the beauty of the bucket and funnel...lop the head off and the body is confined in the bucket and can't go anywhere. Does a lot of shaking but you just wait until the shaking stops and lift it out.
  11. When we did it (only a couple times but 100 plus chickens at a time), we had a chicken plucking machine, which really saved on THAT labor. As for head chopping, found an article on building a confining device. Big plastic funnel attached to the bottom of a bucket slightly bigger than a chicken's body, the bucket's bottom removed. You grabbed the chicken by the feet and shoved it down into the hanging bucket head down, and it automatically stuck its head out of the funnel to see what was going on. You grabbed the head with one hand and whacked it off with a sharp knife. Chicken didn't flop around because it was squeezed by the bucket, and the blood dripped straight down into another bucket. That was my job, and it may have been the easiest job in the whole butchering process...catching the chicken was the hardest part of it.
  12. Somehow I didn't see this post until now. Knew it wasn't a copperhead...copperheads may be close to that color but the markings are completely wrong. But I was surprised from the first photo that it was a hognose because I haven't seen any that were that long and slender. The ones I've seen have been considerably short and thick, and usually grayish with dark brown blotches. Very cool snakes, though. With the staying at home thing, I've been writing and doing some scientific illustrations of various critters for my blog, and one of the projects is how to tell Missouri's few venomous snakes at a glance. Copperheads are the easiest, because with very rare exceptions their dark markings always look like big bowties from above, and like Hershey's Kisses from the side...always thin across the top of the back and widening down the sides. Rattlesnakes are mainly easy, too. Cottonmouths are the most difficult, but not really if you know what to look for. I frequent the Missouri Nature Lovers group on Facebook, and it's incredible the number of people that are absolutely sure that every snake pictured is either a copperhead or a cottonmouth. Makes me wonder why they can't see the details that make these snakes so distinctive. For some reason, this year there are apparently thousands of people encountering and photographing midland brown snakes (DeKay's brown snakes), little completely harmless critters, and putting the photos up in that group, and inevitably several people comment that they are baby copperheads.
  13. We used to raise them for the eggs. Not so bad if you can let them out to roam around all day, until the coyotes discover them and start picking them off. Butchering chickens is no fun at all, though...been there, done that.
  14. 1. Really happy at this point that we never had kids. Don't know what we'd do if we were both working and had school age or pre-school kids at home. We have nieces who have little kids, and they are having to hire college age baby-sitters, which is fine except how far can you trust college age kids to not do stupid stuff occasionally and expose themselves? 2. Yup, dishwasher is getting more work. Mainly because we are cooking every meal instead of going out to eat or picking up smoked meat from the local meat shop. Trash cans not so much for some reason. 3. Mary and I are pretty good about dividing up household chores. Haven't had our housecleaner in since this thing started, so we clean the house once a week ourselves...I do all the vacuuming and floor moping, Mary does dusting and other stuff. Whoever cooks supper, the other one cleans up afterward. Mary not so gently reminds me if something needs doing, like folding laundry or sweeping off the back deck. I don't argue 4. Trips anywhere feel more like a trip to the dentist's office, lots of stress when we get anywhere close to other people. Just as stressful are the trips to the mailbox, or when the UPS guy shows up with a package. How far do you go decontaminating deliveries? 5. I've now gone through ALL the bass tournament shows on Youtube, have watched every video on Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan ever made, every old Mizzou football and basketball game that I can find on the internet, most of the old NBA playoff games from the 1980s and 90s, and a thousand other videos on Youtube. Just about finished watching the whole first season of Picard on CBS All Access. Ear plugs are DEFINITELY a must item, since Mary doesn't like to hear sports. If the internet ever goes out we're screwed. 6. Somehow the days just go by so fast, though. I've built a set of bedside tables for the cabin and am working on a headboard, all of it made of old barn wood and twisty cedar limbs. Have done a LOT of yard work. Wrote one article for my blog and am about finished with another. Cleaned out rooms of the house and basement. Mary has spent the last week making multiple masks for everybody in the family, and she has a BIG family. That's my report.
  15. Don't know about just staying in your home county, but I would say to not go anywhere that you will need to stop on the way or around the destination for anything. Get your tank filled up near your home (and take all the precautions). Take your own food and supplies. Don't go farther than you can go without having to pee on the way (and pee in the woods or on the bank, not in a public restroom). Mary and I have gone to our cabin on the Meramec, two counties over, a couple times, but we've followed those rules. No contact with ANYBODY anywhere but your own county if you can help it at all. It is sad, because I'd really like to go fishing with a couple of my friends or my brother, but I am not willing to be even as close as the other end of the canoe with anybody except Mary.
  16. Current and Jacks Fork are closed to gravel bar camping, but I don't know about Eleven Point, since it's administered by the Forest Service and not the Park Service like Current. Not sure what the reasoning is; I can understand closing campgrounds, but why gravel bar camping? Pretty sure Brian is closed down, especially the cottages.
  17. I am perfectly happy to be isolated most of the time. There are just a few things I'm missing. Biggest is that we should be at our place in Montana right now, but our health insurance doesn't cover much or consistently out of network, and Montana is definitely out of network. So we can't take the chance of catching this virus out there. Last I heard there were only a handful of cases in Livingston--our house is just outside town--but a lot of cases in Bozeman just a half hour away. It was in the upper 60s out there yesterday...snowed today! Other things I'm missing...playing basketball. Stopping at the grocery store after playing basketball from 6 to 7 AM to grab a few donuts. Stopping at quick shops for a Coke whenever I feel like it. Fishing with friends on the somewhat rare occasions when I am not fishing alone. And maybe the biggest one...going out to a restaurant now and then, mainly because Mary and I are getting tired of each other's cooking and especially cleaning the kitchen every dang day and night afterward!
  18. Went fishing today...don't ask how I did. But when I got to the MDC ramp, there was one trailer and a truck with a bed extender so I figured a canoe. But when I got ready to back down the long, steep ramp, I saw there was a truck parked at the bottom. Somebody else putting in? Nope, some 90 year old doofus and his wife parked there, lawn chairs out, fishing. I hollered down at him that I was ready to use the ramp, none too gently. Wife chided me for not being friendly enough. Told her people like that piss me off even if they ARE 90 years old. She's even more freaked out about the virus than I am, so when she saw the guy move his truck so I could back down, she saw the 89 year old woman still sitting on the side of the ramp, and then she was none too happy, because we were just about going to have to come within 6 feet of her just to put in. So I backed down, hit the brakes and slid the boat off, with a rope tied to the trailer, pulled the trailer out, boat glides over the opposite side of the ramp from the lady just like I planned it. We were able to stay 10 feet away from her. Coming back in, Mary got pissed because the boat and canoe vehicles there when we put in were gone, but some other doofus had put in, and with the whole parking lot available, decided to park within three feet of our truck. He wasn't there, of course, but what is it about the herd mentality?
  19. Avoiding the politics and thinking not so good thoughts...Does anybody really see an end game here? I read some medical expert that is saying this virus will become like the flu and be around for a LONG time. He said it will become a seasonal thing like the flu. But if it's considerably worse than the flu, and it is with a higher percentage of deaths per number of cases, then what do we do to get back to normal? For how long are we gonna have to go to these drastic measures to avoid getting it? Seems to me this won't really be over until proven and easy to administer treatments are developed that greatly reduce the mortality rate, and/or an effective vaccine is developed. And they are all saying a vaccine is 12-18 months away. Second thought that has me a little freaked out...did you hear that a tiger in the Bronx Zoo tested positive for it? If this virus can infect animals as far removed from humans as tigers, what other animals will be infected? And will they be a continuing reservoir for the virus and another means of spreading it?
  20. I did pretty much the same thing to fix one of mine. It worked.
  21. The way my wife throws, we'd be spending a month in the garage!
  22. It's really difficult to know just how careful to be. Just saw a pretty good Youtube video on how to shop for groceries more safely. Plan ahead before you go to the store, and know exactly what you need to get. Plan to get enough to last you two weeks. In the store, don't touch anything unless you're committed to buying it. Don't use cloth reusable bags. When you get the stuff home, disinfect your table or countertop first, in two sections, one for possibly contaminated food, the other for clean food. Dump all your little plastic bags of groceries on the contaminated side. Anything that's in a box or plastic container that you can wipe down or spray with disinfectant you do that. and set it over on the clean side. If it's in a package the inside hasn't been touched by humans and is presumably clean, but the outside of the package isn't. So your other choice on any package is to carefully open the package and dump the contents into a container, then throw the package away (if it's something like boxed cereal, you just open the box, take out the bag on the inside, throw the box away. Fresh fruits and vegies, you have a sink filled with soapy water, dump the vegies in the sink, scrub the fruits after dumping them in the sink, then rinse off and put away. Frozen stuff you have to disinfect the outside of the package, because freezing doesn't kill the SARS type viruses apparently. After you've done all that, throw away the leftover bags and boxes. You should have disinfectant wipes handy and continually wipe off your hands while you're doing all this. And when you're finished wash your hands with soap for 20 seconds and re-disinfect your workspace. So we just had two relatives who had to go to the grocery store today, and both offered to buy us any groceries we needed while they were there anyway, so we took them up on the offer, and did pretty much what was recommended, except that a lot of the stuff we just left in the garage, since most of the things they are saying is that three days should render the virus harmless on pretty much any packaging. We've been staying home and not having anybody in the house. The mailman came to the door this morning to deliver a package that wouldn't fit in the mailbox, and Mary barely opened the door to tell him to just drop the mail on the porch. Then I went out and disinfected the doorbell. The mail is only touched with rubber gloves on and goes into the garage to sit for three days before opening anything except what's obviously important, and so far nothing important has come. Just another report from the era of paranoia. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya.
  23. And...here's why people are selfish, willfully ignorant morons if they don't take this virus extremely seriously. Mary and I live out in a rural area, more than an hour from St. Louis, and we have been very cautious and prudent ever since this thing started, since we are both old enough to fit into the higher risk groups. We have been feeling reasonably confident that we can avoid getting this thing for quite a while because of our location and our precautions...after all, the nearest place to us that has any cases is the St. Louis area. This morning we went into Farmington to the Schnucks at 6:15 AM, because they announced that the hour from 6 to 7 would be reserved for people over 60 years old, and we figured that there wouldn't be very many people, even old farts like us, who were going to get up that early to go grocery shopping. We were met at the door by an employee who disinfected the handles of our shopping cart, along with our hands. There weren't many people in the store. The shelves weren't as full as they usually are, a few items were completely gone (toilet paper was, of course, one of them but we're good for now on TP), but we got what we needed to get, and got out of the store. Used disinfectant wipes on our hands again when we got into the truck, and wiped down all the packaged groceries when we got home, along with washing our hands carefully. So we were feeling good about the whole thing... Until we got the news that last weekend there was a wedding in Bonne Terre, 10 miles away from Farmington and 20 something miles away from our house. 200 people in attendance. And two of the guests came up from Arkansas, and two days later tested positive for the virus. The Health Department stated that they were symptomatic when they came to the wedding. A member of the family of the newlyweds disputes that. But there were a LOT of high school and college age kids at the wedding, and they all went to school on Monday. So you can pretty well expect that there will be a hotspot around Desloge and Bonne Terre, and that's hitting pretty close to home. And several of those kids went out later to a bar in Farmington, so it will probably show up in the hotspot, too. This is why I am completely pissed off at ANYBODY who plays down the dangers of this virus. I don't care what you believe, I don't care why you think it's no big deal or it's a conspiracy or whatever the heck you think. This is not a game and it's not politics. It's a very serious matter, and YOUR ACTIONS CAN HAVE DANGEROUS AND EVEN DEADLY EFFECTS ON OTHERS. If it was just you that was going to suffer from acting like a moron, then I'd be fine with that, but it isn't. I and the people I care about can suffer from your stupidity, too. Even if we don't suffer by getting the disease, everybody is going to suffer from the sacrifices we'll have to make for a longer period of time. All the government restrictions that are now mostly requests and advisories are going to become mandatory, and it won't be because the government is stupid or out to get you, it will be because of selfish, willfully ignorant people who did whatever the heck they pleased and ignored those restrictions when they were requests and advisories.
  24. No, it ain't a good comparison. This disease is at least as contagious, probably a lot more contagious, than the usual flu. And like I said before, you're comparing a full flu season to two or three weeks of this at the very beginning of the epidemic in the U.S. ALL new epidemics start out with just a few people, but grow exponentially. That was my point before. Just because there are only a relative few cases right now means nothing if this disease follows the usual track for highly contagious epidemic viruses. Unless something unexpectedly good happens, I'll just about guarantee you that in a month more people will have died in the U.S. from this virus than died from the flu this year. THAT'S when you'll have a better comparison.
  25. Don't know why they deleted yours, there are about a hundred versions of it on my Facebook feed. But I gotta say that it's a ridiculous comparison. We've had an entire flu season to compare to two or three weeks of this virus, starting from next to nothing. The EXPERTS in epidemiology keep telling us that exponential spread is possible and even inevitable if we don't follow all the social distancing. Exponential spread means doubling and tripling in a very short time interval over and over again. That means that if your little town starts out with one case and doubles every two days, in a month your little town will have 32,000 cases. So get back to me in a month with your comparison, because right now it means nothing.
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