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    MickinMO reacted to Phil Lilley in TR through the weekend   
    Sounds like you guys figured it out.
    TR is dropping now.  Might be at 917 by tomorrow or earlier.  All it has to drop is .37 of a foot.
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    MickinMO reacted to JestersHK in TR through the weekend   
    So we started up past outlet 1 tonight.  Rob caught first fish on the ol 606 signature series.  I had a few bumps but didn't get hooked up.  Switched over to a 1/8 oz sculpin with orange head and started picking up fish.
    We moved down past outlet 1 and picked our way along the bank.  Picked up a few more.  I had 3 on 4 casts at one point.  Pretty solid rainbows and had a good jig bite going on a slow retrieve.
    I switched over to a trout patterned Doty SS and it got crushed by the big fish for the evening.  Didn't measure but it was a net filler of a rainbow... Rob hooked a few more nice bows as well on the jig too.  
    We're heading to SDC tomorrow so called it early tonight.  Well be back at it tomorrow night though.  Not a bad evening of fishing.  Some real pretty colored up fish too.  No brownies yet though...







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    MickinMO reacted to duckydoty in TR through the weekend   
    It’s equal to 4 units, Rick. Lots of guys around the outlets and down the bank today. Lots of good fish caught today.
    709.39
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    MickinMO reacted to Phil Lilley in Time to watch Table Rock’s level   
    Always loos brown after a rain like that.  But it clears quickly.... flushes out.  Nice to be a tailwater.
    Table Rock's at 917.45 this morning.  They'll run this flow till it drops down past 917 feet.
    Flood gates that equal 2 units.  Turbine release at 2 units.  
    Lake level is at 710 feet - about right for 4 units.
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    MickinMO reacted to netboy in Time to watch Table Rock’s level   
    Saw the news on KY3. The lake looked pretty brown down around the landing where they were filming.
    Certainly don't need any more water on the White this year.
    Let's hope for a dry spell.
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    MickinMO reacted to JestersHK in Drifting below fall creek   
    If you haven't read the other thread by Phil you will now have plenty of water to pretty much go anywhere with the gates open pushing 11000cfs.  Should be good fishing up by the dam if we see any shad come through.  I'd at least start with a few drifts from the cable to check things out.
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    MickinMO reacted to JestersHK in Time to watch Table Rock’s level   
    What's the combined cfs of 3 gates?  Looks like our night time wading plans are gonna be scrapped for this weekend... Bummer.
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    MickinMO reacted to Bill Babler in Drifting below fall creek   
    Sounds like a fantastic trip. Couple of points
    Here is a couple of tips that will even make your next trip better
    Ditch the carbon and bobber stop. Tie a traditional  drift rig using 4 lb mono with a tag line to attach your split. No worry about crimping the main line    I’m starting with 4’ of four pound test mono and tying a double loop leaving a 1’ tag section to attach the split on the tag and the No. 8 bait holder on the longer leader section
    This does a couple of things. 1st. It puts your weight on the bottom and let’s the worm float free helping keep it out of any moss on the bottom. Carbon sinks like a rock so it’s also a problem in dragging. When your weight is on your main line plus the carbon you will get moss on that bait this costs you bites  You can still catch them no doubt but there is a better mousetrap  
    Most all the guides use only the top 1/3rd. Section of the worm to the blood sack and throw the bottom thin paper section away. I like mine hooked in thru the tear and ran out thru the blood sack to keep it perfectly in line. This prevents line twist   If the water is slow you can also inflate the worm slightly. I use a size 8 bait holder hook which also helps retain the worm in the correct attitude 
    Lots of different ways to catch a trout. Glad you had a great trip
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    MickinMO reacted to Phil Lilley in Time to watch Table Rock’s level   
    Our rain gage holds 5 inches - it was overflowing this morning. Thankfully the heaviest rain is east of us but still...  TR’s basin got 3-4 inches last night. 
     
    If TR gets to 919-920, look for flood gates. That may spell disaster for our brown trout, as it did in September 2009 when they opened gates. 
     One good thing is TR’s temperature should be cooler this time which may help alot. 
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    MickinMO reacted to 97procraft in Drifting below fall creek   
    I may not be the best to answer this question due to the amount of times I get to fish the lake, but here goes.  I would assume it would change often due to water flow, time of year, time of day, and how you like to fish. 
    For us we started at fall creek and on our first drift we went all the way to Cooper Creek boat ramp.  We had a few flurries of action along the way and as the current felt like it was getting slower, we decided to motor back up.  On the second drift we stopped at Lilleys, third trip we stopped just below Trout Hollow.  After that we decided to run down towards that landing and fish around there and get lunch.  After lunch we drifted from the island through the bridges and to the Fish House.  
    We caught some fish at every stop, but we liked the first drift from fall creek to just above Lilleys the best for us.  This was the fastest moving water and we liked that.  The drift from the Island to the Fish House was the slowest drift, but we still caught fish there too.  I normally fish for bass and I like to use crank baits, so I am usually moving when I fish.  That may be why I liked the upper drift the best.  If you normally fished for catfish or crappie, you may like the slower drifts.  
    As far as why we stopped where we did, we would stop when the bites were slowing up drastically.  If there was a long time between bites, it was time to move to where the bites were.  It is kind of crazy that most of the bites were in the same general areas every time.  
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    MickinMO reacted to 97procraft in Drifting below fall creek   
    I took several friends down over the weekend for some good times and good fishing.  We started Friday drifting below fall creek.  We threw just about everything to start with, power worms, jigs, jerk baits and worms.  It took us until about 11 to realize that drifting the crawlers was going to be the best bet for numbers.  We were using a #6 circle hook and #5 round split shot on 4 lb mono and a 4lb floro leader.  The circle hook helps with very few of them getting hooked deep.  I have started adding a bobber stop below the weight to help prevent the weight from slipping down to the hook.  This way I don't have to crimp the split shot down so hard it kinks the line.  We ended up with about 20-25 fish on Friday, mostly on worms.  Went back out Saturday and only used worms.  We found out late on Friday that pinching the worm into 1/3 instead of 1/2 got us more bites.  I think that the smaller worm would make them get it all the way in the mouth.  When using 1/2 worm, we got a ton of tugs but not as many commits.  We went through 3 boxes of 18 worms in 2 days, pinching them in 1/2 and 1/3.  We had about 45-50 fish on Saturday.  With the rain on Sunday, we didn't go back out.  We had a great weekend and loved spending time with good friends.  
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    MickinMO reacted to snagged in outlet 3 in Lake Taneycomo fishing report, October 1   
    12-18 inches. Or so. 
     
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    MickinMO reacted to trythisonemv in Headed down sunday ....   
    Hope i can get into some fish tomorrow. Be down afternoon and evening then again monday morning 
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    MickinMO reacted to Phil Lilley in Lake Taneycomo fishing report, October 1   
    Summer has stuck around late this fall (yes it has officially been autumn for a week now despite the 90-plus degree weather.) But we know the splendor of fall colors is just weeks away!  It looks like we're in for a cool change this week.
    We've received a little heavy generation already this week, I assume because of the hot weather.  It sure was nice, though, moving a lot of loose pond weed and other floating scum out of our area of the lake.  That's one nice thing about being on a tail water -- we get new water every time operators run water at the dam.
    They're still running that minimum flow 24/7 as they have been since September 1st.  No word of any changes on the horizon.  Dissolved oxygen levels have been holding up pretty well, and water temperatures are about 57 degrees.  When they do switch modes and start leaving the water off, I think we'll see no generation for most of the time and little generation until cold weather dominates our days and nights.

    The San Juan worm continues to be the hot item this week, mentioned on social media many times as the go-to fly.  The best colors are pink and red in the micro version, which is basically a small diameter chenille tied on a #14 or #16 hook.  The material is called micro chenille . . . go figure.
    Most fly fishers are using the micro San Juan in a double fly rig under an indicator.  They're using a heavier fly up from the San Juan about 18- to 24-inches from, say, a weighted scud or a beaded midge.  But you could use a beaded version of a San Juan by itself since the bead would take the fly down where it needs to be.
    You want to fish the worm, and scuds for that matter, on the bottom when drifting along in the current, so set the indicator at a depth where the flies rake across the bottom.  If your flies are coming back with Taneycomo slime, move the indicator so that you're not fishing as deep.  But you'll drift across shallow and deep areas, holes and flats, and will need to pick a good average depth to cover as much water as possible.

    Our dockhand Blake Wilson has been fly fishing quite a bit, scoring really well using a double scud rig.  He's fishing a peppy scud (medium gray), two sizes under a float and drifting from the cable below the dam down to Trophy Run.  He ties the smaller scud, usually a #16 or #18, as the bottom fly and a larger #14 on top, separating them by about 18 inches.  He's using 6x fluorocarbon tippet.

    As far as where to fish either of these rigs, any fairly shallow gravel flats are best, and you'll find those areas from the dam down to Trout Hollow Resort.  From Fall Creek to Trout Hollow, stay towards the inside of the bend.
    Drifting real worms is still the best way to catch trout below the trophy area.  These two things will help you catch more fish.
    First, your weight.  Your weight needs to match the flow of generation.  When you throw the rig out, how long does it take to hit the bottom?  If it goes right to the bottom, and you feel it catch and pull, you're using too much weight.  Depending on the depth of water, of course, it should take a few seconds to reach the bottom, and you should feel a slight touch every once in a while.  When this happens, you know your bait is skimming across the bottom like a natural worm would.  Plus when a fish picks it up, you'll feel it immediately.
    With the present generation, all you really need is a small split shot to get your bait to the bottom.  And less is better.  Even if your bait isn't on the bottom all the time, it will get eaten. With too much weight you will only catch, snag and grow frustrated.
    The second thing is how you present your worm.  Don't use the whole worm.  No need to thread it, although that’s not a bad option -- it just takes too much time and is unnecessary.  Pinch the worm in two.  Take the piece and run your hook through the middle, letting it hang off each side.  No need to hide the hook.  I use a #8 short shank bronze hook by the way.  And four-pound line is fine when drifting.

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    MickinMO reacted to Phil Lilley in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, September 23   
    I got this email on Friday, August 30th, forward by Shane Bush.  It's from a person who works for SPA (I won't post his name).
    Civil Engineer (Hydrologic)  
       Division of Resources and Rates
    Southwestern Power Administration
    Just wanted to give you a heads up that Bull Shoals regulation stopped working yesterday, and the plant was placed in manual mode.  As a result, you may have noticed that we switched regulation to Table Rock and will continue regulating with Table Rock until Bull Shoals is fixed next week.  Because of Norfork’s RMGR and Greers Ferry’s flood requirements, Table Rock is our only available option for regulation.
    This is unlucky timing as I’m sure there were many folks looking to fly fish in Taneycomo over the holiday weekend, but unfortunately this is our only option.
    I asked Shane about "regulation" and this is his reply:
    It’s my understanding that regulating means they run round the clock to adjust for the small fluctuations in power demand.  I’ll try to get a full explanation of it at our meeting with them in October.
    So I guess nothing has changed since then although we've seen no generation a couple of times but only for about 12 hour periods.
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    MickinMO reacted to Flysmallie in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, September 23   
    Just keep hitting the redial button until it said zero generation, then jump in the car and make the 45 minute drive down to find 4 units going. Used to drive me crazy. 
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    MickinMO reacted to snagged in outlet 3 in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, September 23   
    Drive 4 hours get your waders on and the horn blows.
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    MickinMO reacted to snagged in outlet 3 in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, September 23   
    Thanks, Phil.   It's always been this way when fishing the tailwaters but it's a lot better now with the gen schedules and predicted generation info than it used to be.
    Back in the day sometimes they wouldn't update the phone recording and if you wanted to know what was going on you had to drive there and look.  Part of the game.
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    MickinMO reacted to snagged in outlet 3 in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, September 23   
    Questions as old as time itself😆
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    MickinMO reacted to Phil Lilley in Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, September 23   
    Night crawlers are still king on Lake Taneycomo.  Brown worms and pink worms.  Real worms and rubber worms -- our trout like 'em both.
    We're still seeing non-stop generation 24/7 at 35-45 megawatts of power, which translates to about 2,500 - 3,000 cubic feet a second of flow with a bump late in the afternoon on warm days.  There's no way to know how long this pattern will continue.  I know there's a lot of anglers who'd love to wade and fly fish below the dam this fall.
    With a flow of 2,500 c.f.s., you can boat to the cable at the dam, but it is tricky.  You need to know the channel and where some obstacles are, such as boulders and a stump or two.  If you don't know, I wouldn't try it.  
    The Narrows, about a half mile above Fall Creek, is the first place you need to be in the channel which is on the far let heading up.  Stay close to the trees in the water.  There's a big branch hanging over the lake there, so boat under the limbs.  At Lookout Island, go middle right.  At the clubhouse at Trophy Run, start staying middle right again, then move a little more right and stay parallel with the right bank, then turn up lake towards the top of the Chute.  From there, stay in the middle all the way to the cable, but you have to stay on plane.  You'll go through some real shallow water, but you should make it fine.  If you don't want to take that chance, stop even with outlet #4 , where water is coming out of a pipe on the right bank.
    Below Fall Creek, drift night crawlers on the bottom, but you'll need to get creative on which weight to use.  It all depends on where you are and how fast the water is running.  In most places, you'll be using a split shot.  I would not suggest using one of our drift rigs because the smallest weight is an 1/8th ounce and that's too big for most places, unless you're only drifting just below Fall Creek where the water is fairly swift.
    You only want to use enough weight to get your bait to the bottom, even if it takes a few more seconds to get there.  You want to use enough to feel it tick on the bottom, but you don't want something too big where it bumps and hangs all the time.  If you're using a drift rig,  simply tie a knot on the end of your weight tag end and pinch a split shot on the line.  The knot will keep the split from sliding off.  Generally, if you're weight gets hung up, it will just pull off past the knot and save the rest of your rig.
    Pinch your worm in half and hook it once in the middle, letting it hang off the hook.  You don't have to hide your hook.  If the current is very slow, you may want to inject some air in the worm using a blow bottle or a syringe.  This will float your worm off the bottom.

    On Duane Doty's guide trip the other morning, his clients - - two ladies "about my age,"  caught some real nice rainbows on black marabou jigs and his signature painted jerk baits in the trophy area.  He said they even caught some below Fall Creek towards the end of their time, about 9 - 10 a.m..  So black may be the new color.

    I've been throwing the old reliable sculpin/ginger jig and doing pretty well.  The best size of line and size of jig depend on the application -- and that changes moment to moment.  Here's why:
    Any jig sinks faster the lighter your line is.  Wind and current will not bother, say, two-pound line as much as four-pound line.  And the faster the current is on Lake Taneycomo, the more swirls and under currents there are.  So heavier jigs work better because they tend to slice through these currents better than light jigs.  Same for thinner line.
    So I throw a small, 1/32nd-ounce jig when I want to work close to the surface in no current or slow current, two-pound line.  I can work that same jig deeper if there's little or no wind but would have to go to a 1/16th-ounce jig if it was windy.  If I want to work a larger profile jig like a 1/16th, I'd throw it on four-pound line.  It won't sink as fast as using two-pound line.  If the wind picks up and/or you've got medium to heavy current, I'll go to a heavier jig and use four-pound line.  I'll pick either a 3/32nd- or an 1/8th-ounce jig depending on those factors, wind and/or current. 
    Current depends on how much water dam officials are running, but it also depends on where you're fishing.  During that 3,500 c.f.s. of flow, the current will be much faster close to the dam versus down below Cooper Creek where it will be barely moving.

    The Berkley Pink Worm is still catching fish early.  I've seen several guides fishing in our area from daylight until 10 a.m. catching fish all during those hours -- still using two-pound line!
    I've seen more and more top water action above Fall Creek but haven't ventured out to try a hopper or stimulator.  Shouldn't be long!
    There are some brown trout showing up at the outlets below the dam, but finding a spot to wade is frustrating.  There's not much room up there, but if you do get a spot, a brown, tan or gray #18 scud or egg fly is working.  Just ask Wendell Beard, a local, long time fly fisherman who caught and released this beautiful brown the other day.  He told me he's seeing a lot of browns moving around in the past week below the dam.

    If you're lucky enough (and patient enough) to get a spot below outlets #1 or #2, another thing to keep in mind is that you have a pretty good chance hooking a big trout.  I know I've been preaching 6 and 7x tippet lately, and you can use light tippet up there, but you're going to probably do one of two things -- break off or fight a big trout to its death.  Wendell told me Monday morning that he's switching from four-pound tippet to six-pound because he's breaking off too many big browns.  Food for thought.
    If you boat up to the cable below the dam and drift, try a beaded fly under a float with a smaller dropper.  For the beaded fly, use a miracle fly (beaded egg fly), a Y2K or a beaded scud, #14 or #16.  Drop a San Juan worm or another weighted scud under the beaded fly about 18 inches and fish this rig from four- seven-feet deep.  Drift from the cable down to the top of Trophy Run and then drift the section from Lookout Island to Fall Creek.
     
     

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    MickinMO reacted to Bill Babler in Big Fish   
    Triploid Brown Trout, Lake Taneycomo September 4th. 2019  Girth 28 inches, length 41 1/4 inches weight Forty pounds 6 oz.  Certified Missouri State Record.

    Really at this point I have no idea for a title for this post or a reason that God made it possible for me to catch it.  It was simply his plan.  For sure a day I will never forget, with a sad note in that we were not able to get it properly released even with the amount of care that we provided.  Again it was not to be and there is a reason for everything.
    On a much brighter note, I just caught the State Record Brown trout and got a big congratulations call from the Director of the Missouri Conservation Department.
    Today was a pleasure fishing trip for me.  Seems like there has been a few lately just getting back from Alasky with Phil, but never the less my long time best friend from Grade School came down to trout fish today and we were going to get him a couple of nice plump rainbows to take home.
    If you have been following our reports you know that the fish have been all over the Power Worm.  Bubble Gum.  Don't buy any.  Both Duane and I have been fishing the same stretch of water just below the restricted zone for a week.  Duane more than me, as a matter of fact I keep wanting to fish a scud in the restricted zone and he as they say, "made me do it."
    None the less, since we were going to keep a couple we started  below the mouth of Fall Creek, with the Pink Worm.

    At this point I will tell you there is never a day that my equipment is not gone totally over.  I never fish terminal line or tackle two days in a row.  Never.  Everything is broken down and rebuilt, everyday.  Never fail and what I and Mark were fishing was put together last night.

    Main line on the Daiwa Fuego,   BP Excel mono in 4 lb. to a carrot float.  Below the float a Spro, sampo style swivel and then 7'6" of Orvis 6X tippet 3.1 lb. test at .005 diameter. 

     All fished on a Rod Shop 7' Signature White River Outfitters Custom Rod.  We were using of course the pink worm.  Worm was on a 125th. oz. full micro jig.  First super glued and then cemented. Prior to Turner Jones passing, he made me 100 heads with out bodies on size 12 mustad hook.  They are very good, in the Full Micro size but a bit weak in the half micro size of 14.  These were the Full, they work perfect with the PW as the  head glues directly to a wide flat jig head surface.

    We were running a bit late and not on the water till 8 as Mark drove down about 60 miles.  Our first pass he put a nice rainbow in the boat while I got him going, just like I would on a guide trip.  Here is the great deal.  Very much unlike a guide trip I was going to get to fish.  On the second pass I grabbed a rod after he was drifting nicely and about that time a cloud came over and it got kind of dark on the water.  Looked great.  My float dipped under and before i could even lift the fish came to the surface and just swirled.  I told Mark this was a big fish, then I said a HORSE as the drag started whirling and buzzing, smooth as silk.  We were fishing a trough and the fish immediately headed for mid-stream.  By then just a 1/2 minute or so Mark had reeled in and grabbed the net.  I hit my bow switch and trimmed my main motor out of the water and pointed my trolling motor to the middle and let it pull drag keeping the rod high letting it absorb the pressure instead of the line.  The drag was set perfect, I never had to touch it, it just peeled off like string after a kite.  The fish made 2 circles in front of the boat and then headed to the back.  Went under the boat and then came out with its head up.  We were not quite ready and back he went under the boat.  He did the same thing again and we were ready.  Right into the Fish Pond net.  As we lifted him into the boat his nose went thru the basket as I lowered him and he rested on the carpet.  We immediately put him in the live well and did our best to keep him frisky and he was fantastic until he wasn't.
    I have 3 people in this world that I would have loved to share that type of an experience with.  First is my son Steven and the next two are my buddy Mark and of course Phil.  However Phil and I have had similar experiences in strange lands.
    Just feeling so blessed and again, right place, right time.
    Good Luck 

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    MickinMO reacted to JD Dudley in Firemen's Benefit today   
    Have known this man and fished in countless tournaments against him over the past 25 years and I have no doubt whatsoever that he and his partner did everything they could to keep this TROPHY alive. He’s an unbelievable jig fisherman and definitely one of the best out there and I couldn’t be happier for him! Congrats Gerry on a BEAUTIFUL fish... and another win! Can’t wait to hear about it this winter.
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    MickinMO got a reaction from JestersHK in Firemen's Benefit today   
    It seems a catch and release tournament is a good compromise between sport and conservation. However, I really don't have an issue with doing a weigh in tournament or two per year. As for the big brown, I wonder if they tried to stop along the way back to give it time in the water? With such a large fish, the tourney would have been the last thing on my mind. I would have pulled into Scottys and made some calls to figure out what to do.
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    MickinMO got a reaction from Seth in Firemen's Benefit today   
    It seems a catch and release tournament is a good compromise between sport and conservation. However, I really don't have an issue with doing a weigh in tournament or two per year. As for the big brown, I wonder if they tried to stop along the way back to give it time in the water? With such a large fish, the tourney would have been the last thing on my mind. I would have pulled into Scottys and made some calls to figure out what to do.
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    MickinMO got a reaction from snagged in outlet 3 in Firemen's Benefit today   
    It seems a catch and release tournament is a good compromise between sport and conservation. However, I really don't have an issue with doing a weigh in tournament or two per year. As for the big brown, I wonder if they tried to stop along the way back to give it time in the water? With such a large fish, the tourney would have been the last thing on my mind. I would have pulled into Scottys and made some calls to figure out what to do.
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