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Brian Sloss

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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Ham in Fishing Goals for 2016   
    Planning on doing Patagonia in Argentina next year at this time
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    Brian Sloss reacted to SpoonDog in The Oregon Standoff   
    You may not be born owing the Feds anything, but most rational folks should understand when you torch someone else's property, you're on the hook.  When you enter into a grazing contract with someone else, you're on the hook.  Doesn't matter who the owner is or what that owner paid for the property, you honor the terms of your agreement, and you don't re-negotiate the terms of your agreement at the barrel of a gun because they no longer suit you.  What's unfair about holding people accountable for their actions? 
    These guys aren't heroes, they're grow men throwing a tantrum in the desert.  East Oregon is a desert, after all.  So's Nevada.  Maybe the problem isn't a malicious government, maybe these guys are terrible businessmen looking for someone, anyone else to blame.  If they believe in the Constitution, they can follow it.  If they believe in property rights, they can respect them.  The moment it stops being an exercise in "Do as I say, not as I do," I'll start taking them seriously.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from fishinwrench in The Oregon Standoff   
    It was bought via the Louisiana Purchase.  Key word "purchase".  During the time of the homestead act they gave a lot of it away to ranchers and other individuals who were willing to homestead.  A lot of land was not claimed, so they (gov't)  continued to own a lot of land.  The only group that might have a claim on gov't land are the native Americans as they actually had land stolen and generally got screwed over during the time of manifest destiny.   As for victims...Anyone that wants to use the wildlife refuge besides them. Granted it is winter and it isn't high tourism season, but as someone who lives by a federal river, even during the winter when numbers of users is lower, there are people who use it.  They have no right to do this.  The surrounding community has closed schools and beefed up security because these guys are intimidating people.  All that costs money.  They have vandalized the property, using gov't backhoes and trucks.  They have accessed the buildings computers to get personal info on employees and threatened said employees.  Followed people around town who express opposition to their cause and watched them form their cars in their homes.  That is a short list of who they are victimizing. 
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from siusaluki in The Oregon Standoff   
    It was bought via the Louisiana Purchase.  Key word "purchase".  During the time of the homestead act they gave a lot of it away to ranchers and other individuals who were willing to homestead.  A lot of land was not claimed, so they (gov't)  continued to own a lot of land.  The only group that might have a claim on gov't land are the native Americans as they actually had land stolen and generally got screwed over during the time of manifest destiny.   As for victims...Anyone that wants to use the wildlife refuge besides them. Granted it is winter and it isn't high tourism season, but as someone who lives by a federal river, even during the winter when numbers of users is lower, there are people who use it.  They have no right to do this.  The surrounding community has closed schools and beefed up security because these guys are intimidating people.  All that costs money.  They have vandalized the property, using gov't backhoes and trucks.  They have accessed the buildings computers to get personal info on employees and threatened said employees.  Followed people around town who express opposition to their cause and watched them form their cars in their homes.  That is a short list of who they are victimizing. 
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Terrierman in The Oregon Standoff   
    Think of it this way, I work in the outfitting business on the 11 Point and I am licensed to do so with the US gov't as the own the land and river.  I rightly pay the gov't every year to do so.  Do I always agree with every decision they make regarding the management of the resource? Of course not, no one ever will.  We all have different priorities at times.  But if I were to not pay my license fees to the gov't because I didn't like a management decision in regard to the river, but still continued to run my business utilizing gov't property, I would rightly expect to be punished (ie loose my license and then they would go after me in court for payment of said fees).  Now, if in protest I armed myself to the teeth and took over the Greer campground and access area,  I would rightly assume my next stop would be prison and I assume all the fishermen on here would agree that I should be "sent up the river" for holding your land and recreational ground hostage.  That quite simply is what the Bundy clowns have been up to.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Justin Spencer in The Oregon Standoff   
    Think of it this way, I work in the outfitting business on the 11 Point and I am licensed to do so with the US gov't as the own the land and river.  I rightly pay the gov't every year to do so.  Do I always agree with every decision they make regarding the management of the resource? Of course not, no one ever will.  We all have different priorities at times.  But if I were to not pay my license fees to the gov't because I didn't like a management decision in regard to the river, but still continued to run my business utilizing gov't property, I would rightly expect to be punished (ie loose my license and then they would go after me in court for payment of said fees).  Now, if in protest I armed myself to the teeth and took over the Greer campground and access area,  I would rightly assume my next stop would be prison and I assume all the fishermen on here would agree that I should be "sent up the river" for holding your land and recreational ground hostage.  That quite simply is what the Bundy clowns have been up to.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Eric82 in Eleven Point/Spring River Fly Fishing Club-Smallmouth trip   
    Had the first meeting of the Eleven point/Spring Rivers Fly Fishing club. Only 4 of us at the first "meeting" where we chased some 11 Point winter smallmouth. Mark Crawford and Steve came up from Spring River Flies and Guides and fished with Denny and I. Clark and Augie, your attendance is required at the next meeting. We discussed no important issues, just tried to keep the rods bent. My kind of meeting!








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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Ham in Drift boat accessible   
    I guide the river out of a drift boat, like Gavin said, anything below Greer is fine.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from jtram in Eleven Point/Spring River Fly Fishing Club-Smallmouth trip   
    Had the first meeting of the Eleven point/Spring Rivers Fly Fishing club. Only 4 of us at the first "meeting" where we chased some 11 Point winter smallmouth. Mark Crawford and Steve came up from Spring River Flies and Guides and fished with Denny and I. Clark and Augie, your attendance is required at the next meeting. We discussed no important issues, just tried to keep the rods bent. My kind of meeting!








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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Mitch f in Eleven Point/Spring River Fly Fishing Club-Smallmouth trip   
    Had the first meeting of the Eleven point/Spring Rivers Fly Fishing club. Only 4 of us at the first "meeting" where we chased some 11 Point winter smallmouth. Mark Crawford and Steve came up from Spring River Flies and Guides and fished with Denny and I. Clark and Augie, your attendance is required at the next meeting. We discussed no important issues, just tried to keep the rods bent. My kind of meeting!








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    Brian Sloss reacted to jdmidwest in New State Park?   
    The initial purchase of 11 Pt land is funded by the Lead Remediation monies.  But what about development and expense of staffing and running?  That will fall on the State Park System budget.  The same thing happened at Camp Zoe, the land was seized or forfeited by the owner.  The cost of development and staff will be out of the State Park budget.
    I had thought there was to be some improvements at Greer last year with electric sites and a shower house.  I assume nothing ever became of that?
    They fixed the ramp at Whitten last year and changed the parking lot around, but did not do anything to make it a camping area.  They could easily clear off some land and make several campsites there.  But keep it primitive.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from SpoonDog in New State Park?   
    I don't think 10 primitive campsites located south of the busiest part of the river well off the river where the frontage can't be developed, is going to suddenly make the river over run.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from marcus in blue ribbon trout study   
    For the past 5 years or so the MDC biologists have been conducting a study in the blue ribbon trout area to see if they could find a strain of rainbow trout that adapts the best to the conditions provided therein. At this point I should state that since I am not the biologist or a biologist at all, what I am stating is from conversations with MDC and my personal observation. I have talked with guide clients about this study over the last few years, pointing out the tagged fish. Here is what I have learned about the study, but remember I am not a biologist. They started the study because the Montauk hatchery fish were not retaining at a high enough level. It seemed to me they were not bouncing back from the stress of spawning very well and they would die out from starvation. It seemed they didn't have the strength to capture food like they did before spawning. This is my opinion, no scientific proof. Regardless, the numbers dropped dramatically after 5-6 months. Thus the study. 4 new strains were tried. North Fork of the White wild rainbows crossed with Montauk fish, McConaughy, Fish Lake and Eagle Lake strains were stocked in equal numbers every year for 5 years. I listed them in order of how I thought they would perform. Eagle lake fish did the worst, but the surprise was Fish Lake did the best. I don't think all the numbers are in, but the observation definitely seems to indicate that. The North Fork fish seemed to do second best, which surprised me. Anyway, next year I think they will be stocking all Fish Lake trout in our blue ribbon area and I am excited about it. Especially since we had our best spawn I ever remember here last year. The MDC went above and beyond to provide the best possible fishing on this river over the last 5 years and it appears to be paying off. Well done, lets hope it continues to pay off.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Phil Lilley in blue ribbon trout study   
    For the past 5 years or so the MDC biologists have been conducting a study in the blue ribbon trout area to see if they could find a strain of rainbow trout that adapts the best to the conditions provided therein. At this point I should state that since I am not the biologist or a biologist at all, what I am stating is from conversations with MDC and my personal observation. I have talked with guide clients about this study over the last few years, pointing out the tagged fish. Here is what I have learned about the study, but remember I am not a biologist. They started the study because the Montauk hatchery fish were not retaining at a high enough level. It seemed to me they were not bouncing back from the stress of spawning very well and they would die out from starvation. It seemed they didn't have the strength to capture food like they did before spawning. This is my opinion, no scientific proof. Regardless, the numbers dropped dramatically after 5-6 months. Thus the study. 4 new strains were tried. North Fork of the White wild rainbows crossed with Montauk fish, McConaughy, Fish Lake and Eagle Lake strains were stocked in equal numbers every year for 5 years. I listed them in order of how I thought they would perform. Eagle lake fish did the worst, but the surprise was Fish Lake did the best. I don't think all the numbers are in, but the observation definitely seems to indicate that. The North Fork fish seemed to do second best, which surprised me. Anyway, next year I think they will be stocking all Fish Lake trout in our blue ribbon area and I am excited about it. Especially since we had our best spawn I ever remember here last year. The MDC went above and beyond to provide the best possible fishing on this river over the last 5 years and it appears to be paying off. Well done, lets hope it continues to pay off.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from SmallyWally in This kinda makes me mad   
    If this continues, I could easily see them cutting off a lot of the access and would not blame them. If they did, a lot of people would get a taste of what would happen if the ONSR were sold off to private landowners.
    They would have very little access anymore.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Deadstream in RIP Leo Drey   
    If you fish, hunt, hike or camp in the Ozark outdoors chances are you have crossed land this man preserved so we could enjoy it. We all owe him thanks. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/obituaries/leo-drey-dies-missouri-s-largest-private-landowner-until-he/article_736f1bd8-6103-5202-aad0-7f74cb8f9234.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Justin Spencer in RIP Leo Drey   
    If you fish, hunt, hike or camp in the Ozark outdoors chances are you have crossed land this man preserved so we could enjoy it. We all owe him thanks. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/obituaries/leo-drey-dies-missouri-s-largest-private-landowner-until-he/article_736f1bd8-6103-5202-aad0-7f74cb8f9234.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from ness in RIP Leo Drey   
    If you fish, hunt, hike or camp in the Ozark outdoors chances are you have crossed land this man preserved so we could enjoy it. We all owe him thanks. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/obituaries/leo-drey-dies-missouri-s-largest-private-landowner-until-he/article_736f1bd8-6103-5202-aad0-7f74cb8f9234.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Phil Lilley in 11 Point Canoe Race   
    The Great Eleven Point River Canoe Race: Just a reminder to everyone that the race will be held on Sept 26, though we need people to try and register by Aug 26 so we can plan ahead. This will benefit the work we are doing to restore the Greer Mill. Race will be from Greer to Riverton (20 miles) and the fun float will be from Whitten to Riverton (8miles). The band, BBQ, beer/soda tent and raffle will start soon after the race at the canoe rental. I hope a lot of you out there will consider joining in. Details at www.11pointcanoe.com or call us with questions or to register at 417-778-6497.

    I know this not fishing, but I hope some of you will have an interest. We will need raffle items if anyone wants to donate by the way
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Ham in May 20, 21 and 22 on the river.   
    It was great meeting you guys, glad the trip went well.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Terrierman in May 20, 21 and 22 on the river.   
    It was great meeting you guys, glad the trip went well.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Gavin in Brown Trout Stocking   
    I don't see smallies getting forced out of habitat by trout (obviously an unscientific observation). An example is Greer spring on the 11 Point. During the spring, summer and early fall trout are by far the dominant species at the spring mouth. Once the weather changes in the fall and the winter starts to set in, the smallies move in and the trout run away. I have fished 3 out of 4 days during that transition and the rapid change was amazing. First day we caught about 60/40 trout to smallmouth, 2nd that raito reversed and on the third it was 80/20 smallies to trout. A week later you might catch one or two trout all day in that hole and everything else was smallies.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from stlfisher in Brown Trout Stocking   
    I don't see smallies getting forced out of habitat by trout (obviously an unscientific observation). An example is Greer spring on the 11 Point. During the spring, summer and early fall trout are by far the dominant species at the spring mouth. Once the weather changes in the fall and the winter starts to set in, the smallies move in and the trout run away. I have fished 3 out of 4 days during that transition and the rapid change was amazing. First day we caught about 60/40 trout to smallmouth, 2nd that raito reversed and on the third it was 80/20 smallies to trout. A week later you might catch one or two trout all day in that hole and everything else was smallies.
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Phil Lilley in canoe race fund raiser (I konw it is not fishing)   
    2nd ANNUAL GREAT 11 POINT RIVER CANOE RACE. I am excited to officially announce that we be will having the 2nd annual canoe race on Sat Sept 26, hosted by the Eleven Point Canoe Rental and the Friends of the Eleven Point River. Full details can be found @ http://11pointcanoe.com/then click on the canoe race icon. There is a printable sign up sheet you can use or you can call me to ask questions @ 417-778-6497 and sign up that way. Just as we did last year, this race will also raise money for the GREER MILL restoration. Every person's entry fee will be all inclusive, including a donation to the mill project via Friends of the Eleven Point River and 5 $1raffle tickets.. Between the donation and the raffle tickets, that means a total of $25 of each person's entry fee will go straight to the mill project. Entry fees are $90/person. Also included will be a BBQ, beer/soda(post race only),live music, camping (space limited at canoe rental) and use of one of our canoes or shuttle of one of yours. The race will be from Greer to Riverton (2o miles) and for those who want to enter but don't want to race, a fun float from Whitten to Riverton will start soon after the start of the race. Please consider coming out for a great time that supports a great cause. Also, this is not the most serious of races, so all skill levels of paddlers are encouraged to participate!
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    Brian Sloss got a reaction from Smallieguy87 in another great bill (sarcsm) goes to committee in Mo House   
    Just read another report that it may die in committee, but I am keeping my eye on this one.
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