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  1. Thanks for the report. I am very surprised they are still that deep.
  2. Dude. Don’t even get me started. I posted about them in late spring 2016. That place was a total $h!t show. Absolutely terrible experience.
  3. I wonder if that is the hog that was eating the rainbow carcasses from people cleaning fish at Lilleys dock. I saw a freaking giant in June 2016 come up and hammer ~15” rainbows after the filets were cut out.
  4. I’m not sure if it is walkable. You’re kind of focused on making it through and not so much on anything else. It’s pretty fast and deep so it possibly isn’t. That said, it really isn’t that bad in normal water levels. As long as you keep the boat straight, you’re good. Not really any turns or obstacles to navigate around. There are a few more shoals as you go. I’m also very conservative and walk when in doubt, but there were very few places I felt that was needed in this section.
  5. I used canoes for many years before getting into kayaks. Yes, it is easy to hop out of a canoe just as it is a SOT. Getting back in is a different story. A SOT kayak gunwale is a few inches off the water surface...maybe 6” on my Coosa HD. A canoe is in the 10-12+ inch range. That’s a big difference when trying to sling your leg over in any depth of water. I have hopped back onto my kayak in waist deep water. That would have been impossible on a canoe without tipping. Even if I made it in, I’d be filling it up with water that would need to be bailed out later. This is especially useful when fishing upstream. I can wade quietly with the kayak tied to my waist. When it gets too deep, I pop back in and paddle. I have done the stadium seat thing on canoes. It’s nowhere near the comfort of a GOOD kayak seat. Half the time the stadium seats come lose, but even if you get one that fits tight, they aren’t adjustable like kayak seats and don’t have near the back support. You also can’t pull them out and use them to sit on the ground like a lawnchair during lunch or overnight. Horizontal rod storage is probably a tie. Kayaks like the Coosa HD have horizontal storage for one rod in each side but you can actually put 4 in there and those four will stay there even if you tip. Then you can fit 3 comfortable (up to 5) between your legs. Al, I’m curious why kayaks you’ve tried? Have you used any quality ones like a Jackson Coosa, Coosa HD, Cuda, etc., Sea Ghost, Predator Bonafide, etc. etc. It’s not the same experience as a “fishing” kayak from a Walmart or a big retail sporting goods store.
  6. In that price range, I would consider a Sea Ghost 110 or Jackson Bite over the Pescador Pro. You can probably find dealers that carry the Bite and Sea Ghost (may be two different dealers) to test them out. I have heard good things about the Pescador Pro, but the Sea Ghost is very highly regarded. The Bite is brand new but Jackson makes great stuff. Regarding the solo canoe comparison, they have their advantages and disadvantages compared to a SOT. Almost any SOT in this budget will have a seat that is more comfortable than a canoe. I think Old Town has a model with a chair like seat in the $1200 range but that is the only one I’m aware of. SOTs are also easier to hop on and off when you’re fishing or getting out when dragging. They are also self bailing so your gear stays drier and it’s one less thing to worry about in the rain. Not certain on this, but I think most SOTs will be more stable if you want to stand and fish. A canoe will have a higher weight capacity and are usually lighter. The weight is is really the only thing that has had me curious about them. That, and Al swears by them.
  7. I fished there. Every inch of shore out to about 10-30 yards is covered with lillypad-like vegetation. Have to walk through a lot of brush to get there or to a spot where you can cast. My FIL did catch a nice bass there but it is tough to fish. If you were willing to drag a kayak on wheels back there, it could be worthwhile.
  8. LD bass population is still decent. I’ve always done ok there.
  9. That place seems to get a lot shore pressure at the easily accessible areas. I have only bass fished there out of a kayak or boat and have never seen someone on shore catch a fish. I’d recommend bring some boots and getting to the harder to reach areas that don’t get pounded.
  10. What do you wipe your....ehhh....nevermind.
  11. Those roll tables are pretty slick. If I was taking a canoe, and especially if I was going to hang out in one area for more than a night, I’d get one of those.
  12. Personally, I’d ditch the cots in favor of a Thermarest but if that’s what you have and they are the cylindrical folding type, they’ll fit in the canoe fine. Propane grill could be replaced by a collapsible grate and use wood for fuel. Bring starter sticks in to light wet wood in case of rain. Couple things that haven’t been mentioned yet: Bring a compass to help orienting with the map. If your canoe seats don’t have backrest, do your back a favor and buy some stadium seats and attach them with bungees (you’ll thank me later). If you wear contacts or glasses, bring an extra pair. Instead of filling your cooler with ice, use frozen water bottles then you are also carrying drinking water. I pack my cooler full with the food stuff and frozen water bottles then use bags of ice and shake the cooler to fill the voids. You can also freeze gallon jugs of water. If you keep them out of the sun, you’ll have cold drinking water for almost two days without taking any cooler space.
  13. I’m sure there are “some” trout as you get close to the White. That said, we fished that last mile hard and did not catch or see any, but I’ve heard of them in there. Are you going to be in a kayak or canoe and do you have a list going of things to bring? I have a lean packing mindset so things that other people may bring may never occur to me to warn them about. Like, a couple weeks ago, I saw this YouTube video where I guy brought a post hole digger, post, and quickrete to make hammock stands. It was probably 50# of bulky crap to do something that a tree does. It would probably be more beneficial to post your list for critique
  14. We did the Riley Station takeout. It was ok but I wouldn’t do it again. Buy a trout stamp and enjoy a quick 5-mile float to Shipps with some world class trout fishing. If you want to have some non-processed, non-refrigerated food, a lot of veggies will do well if you keep them out of the sun: potatoes, onions, bell peppers, carrots, garlic, etc. Just bring some salt, pepper, and small bottle of oil. Fried potatoes and onions with fried fresh fish and ketchup...freaking delicious after a long day on the river.
  15. The shuttle service will pick your car up from Rush the day you leave and bring your car down the morning you tell them your trip is ending. In between, they keep it in their lot. The Buffalo River, especially that section, is stunning scenery so bring a camera if that’s your thing. There will be zero cell reception. It is about the most middle of nowhere you can get in the Midwest. I recommend getting a map app that you can download areas in advance for use without cell service. Then using a different map with mile markers, roughly find each mile increment on the phone app and drop a pin. This will enable you to judge distance travelled and help decide when to stop to camp or when to paddle your posterior off for an hour. The park service also sells Buffalo River East maps that are nice and waterproof. Check the weather before you go and call the outfitter too to make sure water levels are safe. There is a big rapid just below Rush called Clabber Creek Shoal. In normal levels, it’s...interesting...but very passable. In high water, there are videos of jon boats almost sinking. Stay to the left. I am not sure about camping at Rush. Don’t recall seeing many open areas that weren’t parking lots, roads, or the launch. That said, there is an excellent gravel bar on the opposite shore just a few minute paddle away.
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