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  1. Bill Babler

    9-23-18 Cape Fair

    Welcome to the forum and thanks for your post.
  2. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    Well said Champ 96 and remember from my post I had lots of help over the years. I will still have days that this lake humbles me and nobody catches them every time, just is not possible. Thanks All and Good Luck out there chasing them
  3. Bill Babler

    Lower End Saturday 9/22

    Sweet.
  4. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    Guys I have been fishing these deep runs and rolls this time of year for the past 25 yrs. They are locations that 99.9% of fishermen drive by each day. Steven and I were fishing one right in the middle of the lake day before yesterday and it was only 17' deep on top, I mean right square in the middle. I have never seen anyone on this stuff, that is not a local or a touring pro or local that looks for it this time of the year. There are tons of great guides and locals that don't try and mess with this deep jig bite as there are usually other deals going on too. I'm all over this right now, but I have also had my butt kicked at Shell Knob, and I'll tell you either way good or bad. I did however hear that a similar bite is going on at Shell Knob, just not on the deep gravel but it is also a big, big jig bite. Promised not to mention where or how but from what I heard yesterday it is producing the same as the down lake deep big jig bite. Here are a few that look for it and fish it, or have in the past that I learned from and fished with. There are many others also, but on some of these locations I have never seen a fishing boat. I wish the fish were on them all the time but their not, only an early Fall Bite. They will be gone before I know it. Brian Snowden, Chris Tetrick, Bill Beck, Buster Loving, Tim Sainato, Tim Paige, Bob Tindle, Mike McClelland, Dan Langley, Rick Holmgren, Phil Stone. The other day with Steven it really was super that a boat load of keepers blew up all over us. As I've said many times it is always better to be lucky. Good Luck
  5. Bill Babler

    Anyone Know A Reasonable Custom Lure Painter??

    Nobody touches my baits but Timmy.
  6. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    Nope completely sitting still, looking straight down at them. As I said in my original post there were still bites but it had slowed way down and the trouble with most of the bites up there is they are youngsters. On a brighter note today was not yesterday. About 4 times a year I get the pleasure of taking son Steven. He is down for the weekend and we hit the water right after the lightning storm. Launched at Cow and they are still biting and most of them are good ones. When your son only gets to go a 1/2 dozen times a year, this is kind of what you like to see after a day of jig fishing. We fished till 3pm and Steven said we had between 20 and 30 keepers. Not a big fish in the bunch but my gosh we had 15's 16's and 17's out the ying yang. Never really got out of site of the truck this morning, with the majority of the bite just a bit deeper at 35'. If I got the boat under 30' you just would not see them. As soon as you were between 30' and 40' it was on. We even had fish bust and chase around us, nice big Whites and keeper size Black Bass in all three Table Rock lake varieties, nothing at all like yesterday. As Bo alluded to earlier point 9 damwards is the ticket and has been for a while. We also did not see a single bass boat that was fishing, not one. Saw one ranger running but that was it on a overcast Friday in September. Had lots of Small Jaws out deep and they were just plain mean. No pictures of Steve as he does not like to hold them. It hurts his little Chemical Engineering Hands, but here is one of his jaws
  7. Bill Babler

    Bass Pro Tour Changing Tournament Fishing Forever

    The FLW has been a gravy train when they are here for TR Lake Guides, as Champ said the only qualifications to fish is deep pockets. I have taken a boat load of those guys over the years and to say they pay well would be an understatement. Lots of those guys own huge companies and this is their means of escape. Took one guy during their non-off-limits practice period for 5 days. Gave him my bill and he doubled it and added a $100 a day tip. The FLW has been very, very good to us.
  8. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    Mike read it like a news paper. Clients will see all those bottom marks and say Hot Durn, were in them. We might be in them but they are not into us. Easy to tell when they go into that mode, its almost time to head to the coffee shop. Don't want to go back to the Lodge as there are Honey Dues lurking there Good Luck
  9. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    Got a report from the Kimberling area from one of our locals guides and that deep bite is still on. He had 8 thumpers on the big jig while I caught their offspring. Here is a test, what do you all notice about the fish in my 2 graph pictures. You can't tell what's going on you will waste a lot of time. I'm sure you all got it, who will take a shot not named Bo. Champ or Quill Good Luck
  10. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    No big Jig bite for me this morning. My client was sick this morning and could not make it so with this bite I headed out to check out the Kings River. It is the only water I did not fish the entire week. Launched at Shell Knob at 6:30 with lots of help at the ramp probably over a dozen rigs already out and after them. Headed up the Kings and it looked like the water was on fire, I mean they are on the surface clear across the mouth from Twin Rivers up that straight as far as you can see. Could not get them to hit any top water so I used a small spoon and a little George in Chrome. It was a catch fest, problem was they were all extremely young. Most of these fish at 11 to 14 inches and I caught in 2 hrs. probably 40 with a combination of small whites, K's, LM and Jaw's. I think I maybe had 2 LM that would have been squeekers at best. Loads of fun but nothing like the rest of the lake. Water is really clear I'm guessing 12 to 15 ft. at the mouth and was running around 83.8 to 84 degree. When I quit at 11 it was 86 degree and my truck at the ramp after it had cooled down said 96, so it was kind of warm. Rest of the morning after I left and they were still chasing at 9 AM was really slow. I dragged the big jig a Carolina rig and even a Ned and caught some but nothing worth a picture, all about the same, mostly LM that were very lean and 14 inches. As I was working the jig I saw lots of bottom fish and they would not have it so I dropped the spoon and the drop shot and could catch quite a few but they also had milk on their lips and were mostly short K's, 13/14 inchers. Would have been a super fun guide morning and I did have fun, but lots of little bass, and that is a good thing. Look at the depth change from 7:42 to 8:4, as the sun came out and got bright about 8AM they headed down. The rest of the lake they are down there to begin with, just a lot of schooling activity by young stuff on the Kings. It's funny because the other places I'm fishing I'm not catching huge numbers but they are quality fish with very few shorts. Kind of a day that Shell Knob is known for. If there is a solid fish between Twin Rivers and Viola you could not prove it by me as they hid really well.
  11. As Eric Prey and Pete Wenners have been alluding to on their videos the jig bite here is extremely strong. Bass are just gorging on Crayfish. Seems like a lake wide bite, it has been for me as in the past week I have been from point 1 on the White to point 15 on the James to point 23 on the White. It is going all over the lake. Boat positioning is critical for this bite as it seems to be right at the thermocline. With lake temps today at 83 degree these fish are holding in the 26' to 36' range and most are bottom hunting and not suspended. Big baits and heavy equipment are the ticket on deep jig fish. Notice how that Nichole's craw is just flopped over it is extremely soft and swims like a complete alive thing. I'm using Falcon MMC Signature Rods in Heavy Action and also Falcon Cara Amistad. 15lb. carbon line Lots of power pole boats on the lake practicing for a late Oct. derby. They are catching them, flat out hammering them. From what I heard today its taking about 2 hrs. to put 14 to 17 pounds in the boats, with lots of LM and SM in the 4 lb. range. These guys have not going out early, they are catching them all day long, sunshine or clouds it does not matter they are feeding up. I have visited with Champ about this bite for years, it is a big bait bite, with lots of the pro's using 5 inch baits and 1 oz. jigs. They are using big jigs and bigger trailers. My absolute go to bait on this bite is the 3/4oz Pig Sticker Quick 5 with a Nichole's Texas Craw trailer, either in Copper or WMC. Jig color is either GP Orange, Brown Orange or WMC. The Nichole's craw is a very large trailer suited for the 3/4 oz. jig and the colors are about as good as I have seen matching up with the Pig Sticker. A lot of the pro's are throwing hard heads or Biffle Bugs in that 3/4 to 1oz size. Most of these fish are coming on the flatter stuff holding right at the channel breaks, and dragging the edge or winding it with the hard head is money. That's about the best information that I can give you. Good Luck
  12. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    The baby brush hog is the only trailer I ever use on Grand unless I'm flipping docks and probably should use it there also, but have had better luck flipping that tiny jig.
  13. Bill Babler

    Bass Pro Tour Changing Tournament Fishing Forever

    Where did all that money all of a sudden come from, free derby entry fees and 1 mil payouts? Looks like BASS was the fox caught in the Hen House and are now deciding not to suck all the eggs. Got a feeling if MLF had not stepped in, it would have been business as usual. I know it would have been. Just the fish care aspect of this is worth the change, but as Champ pointed out these guys are just the most visible, and the root of the problem is the Jimmy's and Joe's of all the local stuff day after day.
  14. Bill Babler

    9-19-18 Big Jig Bite Lake Wide

    As Eric Prey and Pete Wenners have been alluding to on their videos the jig bite here is extremely strong. Bass are just gorging on Crayfish. Seems like a lake wide bite, it has been for me as in the past week I have been from point 1 on the White to point 15 on the James to point 23 on the White. It is going all over the lake. Boat positioning is critical for this bite as it seems to be right at the thermocline. With lake temps today at 83 degree these fish are holding in the 26' to 36' range and most are bottom hunting and not suspended. Big baits and heavy equipment are the ticket on deep jig fish. Notice how that Nichole's craw is just flopped over it is extremely soft and swims like a complete alive thing. I'm using Falcon MMC Signature Rods in Heavy Action and also Falcon Cara Amistad. 15lb. carbon line Lots of power pole boats on the lake practicing for a late Oct. derby. They are catching them, flat out hammering them. From what I heard today its taking about 2 hrs. to put 14 to 17 pounds in the boats, with lots of LM and SM in the 4 lb. range. These guys have not going out early, they are catching them all day long, sunshine or clouds it does not matter they are feeding up. I have visited with Champ about this bite for years, it is a big bait bite, with lots of the pro's using 5 inch baits and 1 oz. jigs. They are using big jigs and bigger trailers. My absolute go to bait on this bite is the 3/4oz Pig Sticker Quick 5 with a Nichole's Texas Craw trailer, either in Copper or WMC. Jig color is either GP Orange, Brown Orange or WMC. The Nichole's craw is a very large trailer suited for the 3/4 oz. jig and the colors are about as good as I have seen matching up with the Pig Sticker. A lot of the pro's are throwing hard heads or Biffle Bugs in that 3/4 to 1oz size. Most of these fish are coming on the flatter stuff holding right at the channel breaks, and dragging the edge or winding it with the hard head is money. That's about the best information that I can give you. Good Luck This post has been promoted to an article
  15. Bill Babler

    fishing beads

    Most of the time fishing beads on Taney, and I will do it from time to time, I'm either doing it with a fly rod and pencil lead or bouncing the bead on a White River Drift rig. The fish 99% of the time will have the hook in their mouth. The manner in which a trout feeds is it intakes water with the bait and expels the water thru the gills as the bait goes into the mouth. Most of the bead hooked trout will have the hook in the top lip and the bead will be just above that. At one time it was in the mouth but by tightening the line the bead will be on the outside. The set is more of a lift and a tighten than a hook set. If you try to jerk or snap set this the hook will pull right out of the mouth. With patients on either the drift rig or the fly rod these fish will pretty much hook themselves. Seems like December thru January when the rainbows are trying to spawn and full of eggs is the best, but they will eat it about anytime. It is just a tool for the box and not a one and done type deal, the major trick is not to jerk it to be successful. In Alaska the 1.5 inch rule is in effect to keep the fish from getting the hook to far down if the bead is further from the hook. I don't believe we have that rule here as this presentation is not commonly used, but I'm not sure. I just use the 1.5 that Duane stated. My only double digit came on a bead in Alaska. Good Luck
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