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Bill Babler

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    Bill Babler got a reaction from magicwormman in accident   
    If you are in the correct outside lane you can see perfectly at that location, so i don't think I'm faulty on this.  You can ask the guys that frequent that area, and Quill or RPS can tell you headed up steam if your on the bluff side in your lane speed is not a problem.
    I was on the state water patrol for 10 years and director of boat operation and water craft handling for the patrol at both the academy and refresher training.  I was also the WSI for both the Missouri Water Patrol and the Missouri Hiway Patrol.  I'm pretty confident but not cocky in what I'm saying on that "Particular Location."  As I said if you have not been to that exact location on Table Rock and seen it personally you cannot possibly have a dog in the hunt.
    If your swimming from a boat or have a person in the water, you must display a orange flag.  On Table Rock it is encouraged as any Corp's lake and is suggested that you only swim in designated marked areas, for your protection.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from big c in accident   
    If you are in the correct outside lane you can see perfectly at that location, so i don't think I'm faulty on this.  You can ask the guys that frequent that area, and Quill or RPS can tell you headed up steam if your on the bluff side in your lane speed is not a problem.
    I was on the state water patrol for 10 years and director of boat operation and water craft handling for the patrol at both the academy and refresher training.  I was also the WSI for both the Missouri Water Patrol and the Missouri Hiway Patrol.  I'm pretty confident but not cocky in what I'm saying on that "Particular Location."  As I said if you have not been to that exact location on Table Rock and seen it personally you cannot possibly have a dog in the hunt.
    If your swimming from a boat or have a person in the water, you must display a orange flag.  On Table Rock it is encouraged as any Corp's lake and is suggested that you only swim in designated marked areas, for your protection.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from big c in Need some advice...   
    Yesterday was meaner out there than a Rattle Snake.  We had 24 fish with one keeper.  Lots on top water but they were rats.  Tried whats been working and we caught fish but man they were bitty bugs.
    Still have not decided where we will go this morning but I think it will be painful.  Caught them all yesterday on either top water or a jig.
    There are two big derby's here today and maybe they will show a pattern.  Anglers in Action and Joe Bass i believe, watch the results and see if anyone of them spill the beans.  I'm going to.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Champ188 in accident   
    For those of you that have never been to this location, please keep quiet.  Two row boats could collide here in the right situation and it takes almost nothing for one boat to ride up over the other boat. If your hull is 1 inch higher than the other object momentum is going to take the means of less resistance at most any speed and cause you to lift over the other object, instead of breaking thru it.
    This is the case weather the object be a dock another boat a log floating in the water or your trailer at the ramp.  Slick hulled boats are either gliding over the top or airborne, just a matter of physics.
    Son Steven and I were there at 9:30 and the MSHP was working the scene.  
    This is a hairpin turn by the Emerald Beach ramp just below Viney Creek.  One of the drivers was cutting the hair pin on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.
    The lake is wide enough there to not be a problem, however you can cut the hairpin if you are headed up stream and it looked like this is what happened.  You cannot see around that corner as it is a bluff bank.
    Conditions on the lake at the time were wonderful.  No fog, full visibility and beautiful.  Really no boat traffic at all yesterday in the upper white.
      Someone screwed up.  Be just like you or I deciding to get in the truck and go around every inside blind corner or curve on the wrong side of the road.instead of staying in the outside or our own lane.
    Terrible shame.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from m&m in Need some advice...   
    Yesterday was meaner out there than a Rattle Snake.  We had 24 fish with one keeper.  Lots on top water but they were rats.  Tried whats been working and we caught fish but man they were bitty bugs.
    Still have not decided where we will go this morning but I think it will be painful.  Caught them all yesterday on either top water or a jig.
    There are two big derby's here today and maybe they will show a pattern.  Anglers in Action and Joe Bass i believe, watch the results and see if anyone of them spill the beans.  I'm going to.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from m&m in accident   
    For those of you that have never been to this location, please keep quiet.  Two row boats could collide here in the right situation and it takes almost nothing for one boat to ride up over the other boat. If your hull is 1 inch higher than the other object momentum is going to take the means of less resistance at most any speed and cause you to lift over the other object, instead of breaking thru it.
    This is the case weather the object be a dock another boat a log floating in the water or your trailer at the ramp.  Slick hulled boats are either gliding over the top or airborne, just a matter of physics.
    Son Steven and I were there at 9:30 and the MSHP was working the scene.  
    This is a hairpin turn by the Emerald Beach ramp just below Viney Creek.  One of the drivers was cutting the hair pin on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.
    The lake is wide enough there to not be a problem, however you can cut the hairpin if you are headed up stream and it looked like this is what happened.  You cannot see around that corner as it is a bluff bank.
    Conditions on the lake at the time were wonderful.  No fog, full visibility and beautiful.  Really no boat traffic at all yesterday in the upper white.
      Someone screwed up.  Be just like you or I deciding to get in the truck and go around every inside blind corner or curve on the wrong side of the road.instead of staying in the outside or our own lane.
    Terrible shame.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Hughesy in Need some advice...   
    Yesterday was meaner out there than a Rattle Snake.  We had 24 fish with one keeper.  Lots on top water but they were rats.  Tried whats been working and we caught fish but man they were bitty bugs.
    Still have not decided where we will go this morning but I think it will be painful.  Caught them all yesterday on either top water or a jig.
    There are two big derby's here today and maybe they will show a pattern.  Anglers in Action and Joe Bass i believe, watch the results and see if anyone of them spill the beans.  I'm going to.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Patlock in Need some advice...   
    Yesterday was meaner out there than a Rattle Snake.  We had 24 fish with one keeper.  Lots on top water but they were rats.  Tried whats been working and we caught fish but man they were bitty bugs.
    Still have not decided where we will go this morning but I think it will be painful.  Caught them all yesterday on either top water or a jig.
    There are two big derby's here today and maybe they will show a pattern.  Anglers in Action and Joe Bass i believe, watch the results and see if anyone of them spill the beans.  I'm going to.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from nomolites in accident   
    For those of you that have never been to this location, please keep quiet.  Two row boats could collide here in the right situation and it takes almost nothing for one boat to ride up over the other boat. If your hull is 1 inch higher than the other object momentum is going to take the means of less resistance at most any speed and cause you to lift over the other object, instead of breaking thru it.
    This is the case weather the object be a dock another boat a log floating in the water or your trailer at the ramp.  Slick hulled boats are either gliding over the top or airborne, just a matter of physics.
    Son Steven and I were there at 9:30 and the MSHP was working the scene.  
    This is a hairpin turn by the Emerald Beach ramp just below Viney Creek.  One of the drivers was cutting the hair pin on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.
    The lake is wide enough there to not be a problem, however you can cut the hairpin if you are headed up stream and it looked like this is what happened.  You cannot see around that corner as it is a bluff bank.
    Conditions on the lake at the time were wonderful.  No fog, full visibility and beautiful.  Really no boat traffic at all yesterday in the upper white.
      Someone screwed up.  Be just like you or I deciding to get in the truck and go around every inside blind corner or curve on the wrong side of the road.instead of staying in the outside or our own lane.
    Terrible shame.
  10. Like
    Bill Babler got a reaction from magicwormman in accident   
    For those of you that have never been to this location, please keep quiet.  Two row boats could collide here in the right situation and it takes almost nothing for one boat to ride up over the other boat. If your hull is 1 inch higher than the other object momentum is going to take the means of less resistance at most any speed and cause you to lift over the other object, instead of breaking thru it.
    This is the case weather the object be a dock another boat a log floating in the water or your trailer at the ramp.  Slick hulled boats are either gliding over the top or airborne, just a matter of physics.
    Son Steven and I were there at 9:30 and the MSHP was working the scene.  
    This is a hairpin turn by the Emerald Beach ramp just below Viney Creek.  One of the drivers was cutting the hair pin on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.
    The lake is wide enough there to not be a problem, however you can cut the hairpin if you are headed up stream and it looked like this is what happened.  You cannot see around that corner as it is a bluff bank.
    Conditions on the lake at the time were wonderful.  No fog, full visibility and beautiful.  Really no boat traffic at all yesterday in the upper white.
      Someone screwed up.  Be just like you or I deciding to get in the truck and go around every inside blind corner or curve on the wrong side of the road.instead of staying in the outside or our own lane.
    Terrible shame.
  11. Like
    Bill Babler got a reaction from Quillback in Need some advice...   
    Yesterday was meaner out there than a Rattle Snake.  We had 24 fish with one keeper.  Lots on top water but they were rats.  Tried whats been working and we caught fish but man they were bitty bugs.
    Still have not decided where we will go this morning but I think it will be painful.  Caught them all yesterday on either top water or a jig.
    There are two big derby's here today and maybe they will show a pattern.  Anglers in Action and Joe Bass i believe, watch the results and see if anyone of them spill the beans.  I'm going to.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Bassmeister in Where would you start   
    White Buzz bait or a white whopper plopper 90 series, seems to be the ticket right now along with a dixie jet if you see fish chasing.  Fish the baits right on the bank, best to parallel if possible.  If the bait gets 10'from the bank recast it and keep it close.  No bank is to steep or to flat, they are where you find them. 
    Have a small jig ready 3/8th. to 1/2 oz. for any misses on the topwater and quickly cast the jig back to the spot of the miss.  Color on the jig and trailer doesn't seem to matter.
    There are some drop shot "Live Bait Fish" 24' to 35' on main lake and creek arm gravel.   They are not fond of soft plastic but will bite any live bait in limited numbers per area.  If you don't see shad or fish, don't waste time on the drop shot.  These fish are getting ready as Bo. said to get out of Dodge.
    Good Luck
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from big c in Where would you start   
    White Buzz bait or a white whopper plopper 90 series, seems to be the ticket right now along with a dixie jet if you see fish chasing.  Fish the baits right on the bank, best to parallel if possible.  If the bait gets 10'from the bank recast it and keep it close.  No bank is to steep or to flat, they are where you find them. 
    Have a small jig ready 3/8th. to 1/2 oz. for any misses on the topwater and quickly cast the jig back to the spot of the miss.  Color on the jig and trailer doesn't seem to matter.
    There are some drop shot "Live Bait Fish" 24' to 35' on main lake and creek arm gravel.   They are not fond of soft plastic but will bite any live bait in limited numbers per area.  If you don't see shad or fish, don't waste time on the drop shot.  These fish are getting ready as Bo. said to get out of Dodge.
    Good Luck
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from m&m in Where would you start   
    White Buzz bait or a white whopper plopper 90 series, seems to be the ticket right now along with a dixie jet if you see fish chasing.  Fish the baits right on the bank, best to parallel if possible.  If the bait gets 10'from the bank recast it and keep it close.  No bank is to steep or to flat, they are where you find them. 
    Have a small jig ready 3/8th. to 1/2 oz. for any misses on the topwater and quickly cast the jig back to the spot of the miss.  Color on the jig and trailer doesn't seem to matter.
    There are some drop shot "Live Bait Fish" 24' to 35' on main lake and creek arm gravel.   They are not fond of soft plastic but will bite any live bait in limited numbers per area.  If you don't see shad or fish, don't waste time on the drop shot.  These fish are getting ready as Bo. said to get out of Dodge.
    Good Luck
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Champ188 in fishinwrench   
    I might be totally wrong but i believe the engine has to be on to add hours.  I was also told by a Mercury Master Tech, to never let my Merc idle while i go and put my truck and trailer up off the launch ramp, as it will add hours like crazy.  Say you launch and visit for a minute or two by the time your ready to roll that is probably going to be 10 minutes of idle time added to your meter.
    Everyone wants to steal a used boat by claiming the number of hours effect the price.  For every 5 or 6 times you launch you put an additional hour on the meter you are killing yourself and that motor does not need to warm up 10 minutes.
    Mercury says their old big block 2 strokes should easy go 1,500 hours and their new 4 strokes should handle 6000 hours no problem. if both are maintained correctly. Yamaha is saying 15,000 hrs. on their big block 4's is not unexpected.  Yet boat buyers throw a fit if you have 300 hrs. on a 5 yr. old boat.  Just Ridiculas.
    Pretty much why we are seeing 8 yrs. of warranty, as the motor companies know we are not going to use that many hours and they are built to do way better than their time of warranty 
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Sore Thumbs in fishinwrench   
    I might be totally wrong but i believe the engine has to be on to add hours.  I was also told by a Mercury Master Tech, to never let my Merc idle while i go and put my truck and trailer up off the launch ramp, as it will add hours like crazy.  Say you launch and visit for a minute or two by the time your ready to roll that is probably going to be 10 minutes of idle time added to your meter.
    Everyone wants to steal a used boat by claiming the number of hours effect the price.  For every 5 or 6 times you launch you put an additional hour on the meter you are killing yourself and that motor does not need to warm up 10 minutes.
    Mercury says their old big block 2 strokes should easy go 1,500 hours and their new 4 strokes should handle 6000 hours no problem. if both are maintained correctly. Yamaha is saying 15,000 hrs. on their big block 4's is not unexpected.  Yet boat buyers throw a fit if you have 300 hrs. on a 5 yr. old boat.  Just Ridiculas.
    Pretty much why we are seeing 8 yrs. of warranty, as the motor companies know we are not going to use that many hours and they are built to do way better than their time of warranty 
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Dewayne French in Fall Feista   
    Plus 1 on what they said.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from m&m in Fall Feista   
    Plus 1 on what they said.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Zulu in Someone Slap Me   
    If I get back out on the Rock prior to October   I though I was on Erie this morning at point 9, on a Monday morning.  They were in front of me behind me and around over and under me making 4 footers by 7:45 this morning.  Worst day i have on TR.  EVER.
    I felt like this guy from Lake Erie.

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    Bill Babler got a reaction from Zulu in Someone Slap Me   
    That's not my boat, that's a boat from the FlW on Lake Erie.  Lake Erie is what it felt like out there this morning.
    Boat damage crossing Lake Erie this past week in the Super Tournament.
    Nitro.  Zero damage 
    Bass Cat.  Zero damage
    Phoenix  Zero damage
    Skeeter cracked cap
    Ranger. Main  Console torn out, Passenger seat broken free and lost, Driver seat broken out when driver was in it, Nose cap broken and trolling motor flipped back into the boat.
    One of the local Ranger Pro's told me today that it has taken Johnny but a few years to totally destroy what it took Forrest Wood a lifetime to build.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from magicwormman in Kim city to India point report   
    Yea, I thought you meant you won it with a 4 fish limit of 15.57.  Whom ever did, that is still a fine 4 fish limit.
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    Bill Babler got a reaction from bobby b. in Someone Slap Me   
    If I get back out on the Rock prior to October   I though I was on Erie this morning at point 9, on a Monday morning.  They were in front of me behind me and around over and under me making 4 footers by 7:45 this morning.  Worst day i have on TR.  EVER.
    I felt like this guy from Lake Erie.

  23. Sad
    Bill Babler got a reaction from Champ188 in Someone Slap Me   
    If I get back out on the Rock prior to October   I though I was on Erie this morning at point 9, on a Monday morning.  They were in front of me behind me and around over and under me making 4 footers by 7:45 this morning.  Worst day i have on TR.  EVER.
    I felt like this guy from Lake Erie.

  24. Sad
    Bill Babler got a reaction from Daryk Campbell Sr in Someone Slap Me   
    That's not my boat, that's a boat from the FlW on Lake Erie.  Lake Erie is what it felt like out there this morning.
    Boat damage crossing Lake Erie this past week in the Super Tournament.
    Nitro.  Zero damage 
    Bass Cat.  Zero damage
    Phoenix  Zero damage
    Skeeter cracked cap
    Ranger. Main  Console torn out, Passenger seat broken free and lost, Driver seat broken out when driver was in it, Nose cap broken and trolling motor flipped back into the boat.
    One of the local Ranger Pro's told me today that it has taken Johnny but a few years to totally destroy what it took Forrest Wood a lifetime to build.
  25. Sad
    Bill Babler got a reaction from fishinwrench in Someone Slap Me   
    That's not my boat, that's a boat from the FlW on Lake Erie.  Lake Erie is what it felt like out there this morning.
    Boat damage crossing Lake Erie this past week in the Super Tournament.
    Nitro.  Zero damage 
    Bass Cat.  Zero damage
    Phoenix  Zero damage
    Skeeter cracked cap
    Ranger. Main  Console torn out, Passenger seat broken free and lost, Driver seat broken out when driver was in it, Nose cap broken and trolling motor flipped back into the boat.
    One of the local Ranger Pro's told me today that it has taken Johnny but a few years to totally destroy what it took Forrest Wood a lifetime to build.
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