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Report 6/1/12

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At 8:30 this morning the trico hatch filled the sky with size 20 -24 bugs. They were falling back into the waiting lips of trout skimming the surface. I watched three anglers that did not know what all the bugs were and was fishing scuds and San Juan worms. Needless to say fishing was slow for them. I also saw an angler who was in the know and fishing a trico & he had a fish on about every drift. He also caught one while his fly was drifting below him while he was cleaning his hands.

The bait area was going strong with Secret Bait and Power Bait, Spinners, and jigs. This weekend is looking great with cooler weather & no rain. We had less than 1/2" of rain which did nothing to the river. Some of the pollen is settled off the water but it is extremely clear,

Then next weekend is Free Fishing State Wide. :secret-laugh:

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I would be equal to the three who had no idea. Is there a certain time of season, day, etc to plan for these hatches? I am a newb who has learned alot on here, but don't have any direct access to trout fishing up in the St Louis area. I would like to be prepared for the fall trip that I plan on going to a trout park.

I generally like to go to Roaring River, but I seem to encourage the rain when I go. I went about 4 years ago and the left overs of Hurricane Ike came through there, and it was not a fun time in tents. The next year was just soaking rain, and needless to say, the kids really did not enjoy it.

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We did good down there this morning, too. How come you don't post those pics of Ozark hellbender eaters here like you do on facebook. I like seeing em....

I post on FB because it's the shop's page, I don't post nothing except reports here. Don't want to stir up something because someone don't like the size of the fish or the angler that caught it. Heck some I don't even post on FB. I hardly take a photo of the fish I catch because of the stress to the fish and everyone has seen a fish.

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I've never been at a trout park during a huge, prolific hatch, so maybe I'm just wrong here...but I find it hard to believe that those freshly stocked morons really respond to hatches and key in on much of anything. A trico, a scud, a minnow, a nugget of dog food, a hot dog, whatever. They pretty much just eat whatever floats past their faces...that's basically been my experience anyway.

Down in the river, different story. Some of those fish have been in there a while and they've returned to exhibiting actual fish behavior. But in the parks? I'm skeptical.

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Eric, not all of the fish in there are"freshly stocked morons". When you start to catch fish that have white tips on their fins you know they have been in the stream for a while. I find it odd that you can't see that many fish caught at trout parks have reverted to natural habits. Just say that you don't like trout parks and you are a better fisherman than people that do. Don't beat around the bush.

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Sure there will be some lucky holdovers that haven't stepped on any Powerbait landmines, but the vast majority of those fish have been in there only days or weeks, or over the winter, maybe a few months.

Never implied anything about being "better" than anyone, but it's true I don't like trout parks. Mostly because of the crowds, but also because it just feels like cheating going after fish that have been conditioned to not rely on instinct to survive. But that's just me. I'm happy to have the parks...keeps more people off the rivers.

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I've never been at a trout park during a huge, prolific hatch, so maybe I'm just wrong here...but I find it hard to believe that those freshly stocked morons really respond to hatches and key in on much of anything. A trico, a scud, a minnow, a nugget of dog food, a hot dog, whatever. They pretty much just eat whatever floats past their faces...that's basically been my experience anyway.

Down in the river, different story. Some of those fish have been in there a while and they've returned to exhibiting actual fish behavior. But in the parks? I'm skeptical.

They do. It takes a pretty good one, but when a hatch is on they still key in. They're probably not as discriminating as wild ones, but once they get their mind on a specific food, they pretty much go for that. They'll start looking up and ignore anything else.

You can catch them with soft hackles just in below the surface. I think it's instinctual for them to have a one track mind when there is an abundant food source. Also I find it much more likely to see the fish living in riffles responding to a hatch. Probably also makes them more likely to have been in the stream for more than a few hours.

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