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2 hours ago, top_dollar said:

The raw data from the world famous reputable scientific journal iceagenow.info?   Do you know what primary peer reviewed literature is? and how it differs from what some guy said on the internet?

'About me' for "some guy on the internet";

"Felix is not affiliated with any university, scientific establishment, or corporation, and therein lies his strength. Untainted by institutional bias or conventional wisdom this architect turned author brings fresh insight to the study of the ice ages."

ROFL!

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What’s predicable is what passes the eye test, few would say in most of the USA has had cooler summers and much colder winters. Can’t say what’s happening in balutoo land  I am not there, so like clockwork Algore and his ilk spinning that some places will be colder and others warmer , why? Well can’t get you in the fly over states to give up eating meat or driving your SUVs, or flying anywhere, next will be how shooting a gun warms the earth.

fact we had the first snow in May in my lifetime 6” in 2013

Look how many low record cold has been in the last 25 years.

https://www.weather.gov/sgf/climate_jln_lowest_min

also notice the warmest years, the earth has been warming, ever since the end of the last ice age, the question is man causing it?

jumping 100 ppm in 100 years is a extremely tiny amount, 

do I think we should unhandcuff corporate polluters NO but this whole carbon as a pollution is CaCa...perhaps you should research Holocene weather and see the data that climate researchers have uncovered, ice cores, ocean sediment etc,...ironic that in the places the commielibs live are the filthiest, wildlife dead zones...I guess it’s an inconvenience truth our weather been getting colder think it was 9 here this am...been cold and wet in San Antonio this winter as well

” global warming my A**” and “**** you al gore “can be heard all over the country as people head to work 

 

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18 minutes ago, MoCarp said:

What’s predicable is what passes the eye test, few would say in most of the USA has had cooler summers and much colder winters. Can’t say what’s happening in balutoo land  I am not there, so like clockwork Algore and his ilk spinning that some places will be colder and others warmer , why? Well can’t get you in the fly over states to give up eating meat or driving your SUVs, or flying anywhere, next will be how shooting a gun warms the earth.

fact we had the first snow in May in my lifetime 6” in 2013

Look how many low record cold has been in the last 25 years.

https://www.weather.gov/sgf/climate_jln_lowest_min

also notice the warmest years, the earth has been warming, ever since the end of the last ice age, the question is man causing it?

jumping 100 ppm in 100 years is a extremely tiny amount, 

do I think we should unhandcuff corporate polluters NO but this whole carbon as a pollution is CaCa...perhaps you should research Holocene weather and see the data that climate researchers have uncovered, ice cores, ocean sediment etc,...ironic that in the places the commielibs live are the filthiest, wildlife dead zones...I guess it’s an inconvenience truth or weather been getting colder think it was 9 here this am...been cold and wet in San Antonio this winter as well

” global warming my A**” and “**** you al gore “can be heard all over the country as people head to work 

 

Do you even realize the contradictory statements you posted? You use snow in May, Joplin record cold, San Antonio being cold and wet to describe why global warming is a hoax.....then immediately turn around and openly admit that the earth is warming because the general consensus in  the scientific community agrees the earth is warming. 

You are right we ultimately don't know if man if the "big" contributor or not but we know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that humans are the worst thing for the longevity of the planet as it is today. We know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that people that throw trash out back or along the highway, dump chemicals in rivers, pour excess CO, CO2, NOx, and CFC's into the atmosphere. We also know how to mitigate and/or stop a lot of those actions so please give someone a good reason why we SHOULDN'T be looking to improve things? 

It is absolutely irrefutable that any one of those actions are bad for the environment, irregardless of if you believe it makes a difference on a global scale or not.

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20 minutes ago, top_dollar said:

fisheries biology.

I never criticized what they know, I only criticized the actions they take.   Messing around with gene pools is irreversible, and if the only reason you're doing it is to have something to do...... That's just wrong.   I'm surprised that you disagree.

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3 hours ago, timinmo said:

So I have not nor do I plan to read this whole thing so if I have missed some meaningful stuff I am sure someone will let me know.

I will be 66 this year and yes it is much better than it was when I was a kid.  Is it as good as it could be?  Most definitely not.  Could we do more?  We could all do more.  Criticize me if you wish but we as a nation can not base our activities on what China and India do.  That is like throwing trash out the car window because everyone else does it.  Should we encourage other countries to do more, certainly.  I will not get into the "Global Warming" debate but we as a country and we as individuals could all do more than we are doing to improve the world  we live in.

  

It's not our world.  It just isn't.  We get to be here for a while, but then its their world.  How can anyone possibly justify messing up their nest for them?

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3 hours ago, timinmo said:

So I have not nor do I plan to read this whole thing so if I have missed some meaningful stuff I am sure someone will let me know.

I will be 66 this year and yes it is much better than it was when I was a kid.  Is it as good as it could be?  Most definitely not.  Could we do more?  We could all do more.  Criticize me if you wish but we as a nation can not base our activities on what China and India do.  That is like throwing trash out the car window because everyone else does it.  Should we encourage other countries to do more, certainly.  I will not get into the "Global Warming" debate but we as a country and we as individuals could all do more than we are doing to improve the world  we live in.

  

Yes there is a very salient point here you have missed.  Dutch made a small joke about Global Warming because it was cold.  And then this happened, spring can't come soon enough, we will be arguing about best carp recipes and whether or not to fillet some kentuckies.

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1 hour ago, Devan S. said:

Do you even realize the contradictory statements you posted? You use snow in May, Joplin record cold, San Antonio being cold and wet to describe why global warming is a hoax.....then immediately turn around and openly admit that the earth is warming because the general consensus in  the scientific community agrees the earth is warming. 

You are right we ultimately don't know if man if the "big" contributor or not but we know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that humans are the worst thing for the longevity of the planet as it is today. We know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that people that throw trash out back or along the highway, dump chemicals in rivers, pour excess CO, CO2, NOx, and CFC's into the atmosphere. We also know how to mitigate and/or stop a lot of those actions so please give someone a good reason why we SHOULDN'T be looking to improve things? 

It is absolutely irrefutable that any one of those actions are bad for the environment, irregardless of if you believe it makes a difference on a global scale or not.

No no no

its the Trump sux because he rolled back Obama era carbon restrictions to placate green agenda voters

yes we should stop polluting and yes we are warming to some degree but that’s the rub is man causing it? 

Caca water is an issue anywhere there is too many people, the issues in Florida last Summer showed this...

in 50 years people will look back at the global warming agendists and laugh 

 

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