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I think you guys nailed it. Limited access that was available before that isn't now. My uncle lived in Walnut Shade over by Branson and was a huge coon hunter. He would cover miles in one evening and have to cross multiple land owners land and never had a problem. Bet that isn't even possible now.

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No buck is ever big enough nowadays.  If it isn't 180 inches people act like you should let them walk.   I'll whack a 6 point and put him in the freezer if feels right.  

I prefer small game these days,  I just got a bird dog, so will keep me busy in the fall.  Another annoying thing is a lot of bow hunters get mad if you small game hunt on public land during bow season.  Well bow season is the entire fall so not much choice to avoid that.

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35 minutes ago, unreal45 said:

No buck is ever big enough nowadays.  If it isn't 180 inches people act like you should let them walk.   I'll whack a 6 point and put him in the freezer if feels right.  

I prefer small game these days,  I just got a bird dog, so will keep me busy in the fall.  Another annoying thing is a lot of bow hunters get mad if you small game hunt on public land during bow season.  Well bow season is the entire fall so not much choice to avoid that.

There's nothing wrong with trophy hunting if that's your thing nor is there anything wrong with filing the freezer. Hunt the way you like. I've passed bucks that didn't meet my standards, but was thrilled when another member of the family killed that same deer and it put a big smile on their face. It doesn't matter what it is, but there are always people who feel they have to belittle and talk down on others who don't see things their way. It happens on here and on literally every hunting or fishing forum or group that I've been a member of.

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With the threat of CWD, my doctor buddy does not recommend eating deer.

But the hunting needs to continue to lesson the threat of overpopulation.  Deer have really exceeded the carrying capacity of most of the lands in MO.  And population density is spreading the disease.  We have manipulated the nature of things too much.  Again....

 

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Electrification brought with it Disney and anthropomorphism, TV has made most people animal worshipers that believe Bambi and Rocky and Bullwinkle to be human or human like in ability to think, have emotions and feel pain. These people deny the connection between roast and cows or  between fried chicken and live birds. They reinforce this denial by not butchering and thereby  witnessing the transition, even buying at a supermarket whole chickens sell to fewer people than fully cut up skinless boneless chicken because the resemblance of the whole chicken to a bird is far greater than that of the fillets. Whole fish vs fillet is about the same. I think that a reason for eating out often and for buying fully prepared meats, as well as veganism is to distance oneself from the conversion of live animals to food. Almost everyone I have met who grew up with television has this anthropomorphic tendency to some extent, most often not even realizing why they treat dogs as people or don't go hunting.

To some extent the lack of access also lies with television, America is no longer made up of communities of people that know each other  and through familiarity have a degree of trust; TV has broken the communities by keeping people at  home where they never become acquainted with the people next door or in the next block- this unfamiliarity breeds distrust and this distrust is increased/reinforced by the TV constantly showing news programs that focus on the evil acts of other people and movies that stress various forms of robbery and violence. The outcome of this is Fear. Landowners become fearful that "trespassers" may rob them or cause them harm and the average person looking for a place to hunt is fearful of knocking on doors to ask permission. Fear is so prevalent that people meeting in public places like the trout parks or WalMarts don't usually even make eye contact and very rarely exchange friendly greetings. One fear landowners have is that people they don't even know can get hurt on the land and sue the landowner, a thing that was unheard of when I was growing up in the '50s.

The other side of lack of access is the success of corporate farming and the subsequent loss of small farms. Large corporations that own much of the land don't have doors to knock on and in many or most cases don't have anyone with authority to grant permission to hunt.  

We won't go back so wildlife managers will have to learn new ways to control the numbers while keeping the control methods somewhat hidden from the Disney watching public. Professional hunters and trappers are employed by farmers and governments in most of the lower 48 now and will bear more of the control work load in the future. Loss of hunting as a sport won't have much other effect on the general public. Sport hunting by the masses has only existed in the USA since the end of WW2 and has never existed in most other countries.

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11 hours ago, jdmidwest said:

With the threat of CWD, my doctor buddy does not recommend eating deer.

But the hunting needs to continue to lesson the threat of overpopulation.  Deer have really exceeded the carrying capacity of most of the lands in MO.  And population density is spreading the disease.  We have manipulated the nature of things too much.  Again....

 

In the immortal words of Dr. Iam Malcolm, "life..uhh..finds a way." 

We think we can control..but we can't. 

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