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Just now, netboy said:

Praying to the toilet Gods????

uh huh....

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9 hours ago, oneshot 1 said:

Well they put it back on but it is a Good Comparison considering there is a Shot for the Flu and Flu last 4 months and this year in Missouri there is 23,000 Deaths. Didn't see squat shut down for the Flu or Hording.

oneshot

No, it ain't a good comparison.  This disease is at least as contagious, probably a lot more contagious, than the usual flu.  And like I said before, you're comparing a full flu season to two or three weeks of this at the very beginning of the epidemic in the U.S.  ALL new epidemics start out with just a few people, but grow exponentially.  That was my point before.  Just because there are only a relative few cases right now means nothing if this disease follows the usual track for highly contagious epidemic viruses.  Unless something unexpectedly good happens, I'll just about guarantee you that in a month more people will have died in the U.S. from this virus than died from the flu this year.  THAT'S when you'll have a better comparison.

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And...here's why people are selfish, willfully ignorant morons if they don't take this virus extremely seriously.  Mary and I live out in a rural area, more than an hour from St. Louis, and we have been very cautious and prudent ever since this thing started, since we are both old enough to fit into the higher risk groups.  We have been feeling reasonably confident that we can avoid getting this thing for quite a while because of our location and our precautions...after all, the nearest place to us that has any cases is the St. Louis area.  This morning we went into Farmington to the Schnucks at 6:15 AM, because they announced that the hour from 6 to 7 would be reserved for people over 60 years old, and we figured that there wouldn't be very many people, even old farts like us, who were going to get up that early to go grocery shopping.  We were met at the door by an employee who disinfected the handles of our shopping cart, along with our hands.  There weren't many people in the store.  The shelves weren't as full as they usually are, a few items were completely gone (toilet paper was, of course, one of them but we're good for now on TP), but we got what we needed to get, and got out of the store.  Used disinfectant wipes on our hands again when we got into the truck, and wiped down all the packaged groceries when we got home, along with washing our hands carefully.  So we were feeling good about the whole thing...

Until we got the news that last weekend there was a wedding in Bonne Terre, 10 miles away from Farmington and 20 something miles away from our house.  200 people in attendance.  And two of the guests came up from Arkansas, and two days later tested positive for the virus.  The Health Department stated that they were symptomatic when they came to the wedding.  A member of the family of the newlyweds disputes that.  But there were a LOT of high school and college age kids at the wedding, and they all went to school on Monday.  So you can pretty well expect that there will be a hotspot around Desloge and Bonne Terre, and that's hitting pretty close to home.  And several of those kids went out later to a bar in Farmington, so it will probably show up in the hotspot, too.

This is why I am completely pissed off at ANYBODY who plays down the dangers of this virus.  I don't care what you believe, I don't care why you think it's no big deal or it's a conspiracy or whatever the heck you think.  This is not a game and it's not politics.  It's a very serious matter, and YOUR ACTIONS CAN HAVE DANGEROUS AND EVEN DEADLY EFFECTS ON OTHERS.  If it was just you that was going to suffer from acting like a moron, then I'd be fine with that, but it isn't.  I and the people I care about can suffer from your stupidity, too.  Even if we don't suffer by getting the disease, everybody is going to suffer from the sacrifices we'll have to make for a longer period of time.  All the government restrictions that are now mostly requests and advisories are going to become mandatory, and it won't be because the government is stupid or out to get you, it will be because of selfish, willfully ignorant people who did whatever the heck they pleased and ignored those restrictions when they were requests and advisories.

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24 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

Even if we don't suffer by getting the disease, everybody is going to suffer from the sacrifices we'll have to make for a longer period of time.  All the government restrictions that are now mostly requests and advisories are going to become mandatory, and it won't be because the government is stupid or out to get you, it will be because of selfish, willfully ignorant people who did whatever the heck they pleased and ignored those restrictions when they were requests and advisories.

Well said. This isn’t a “me” thing. This is about others and the community as a whole. 

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On 1/29/2020 at 6:21 AM, N9BOW said:

Added to top - Thnx! now is the time to put UNITED back in the name of

our country

 

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Here I go playing doctor/scientist again, so if you can't tolerate that just skip this post RIGHT NOW 😊 

 

They are saying that you are infectious even before you begin experiencing symptoms, and that seems a bit like hogwash to me if we're talking about a respiratory virus from snot or saliva.  If you are symptom free then you aren't coughing, sneezing, or snotty, and it's unlikely that you're showering everything near you with the virus....so as long as you don't go around hugging and french kissing everyone you see it shouldn't be that likely that you'll be infected by a person who is symptom free.    I feel like just being cautious about what you touch, washing your hands, and staying clear of anyone that is snotty or coughing SHOULD be enough to keep you from having to worry.   I hope so anyway, because I can't keep up this OCD Germaphobe act for very much longer.

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9 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

.    I feel like just being cautious about what you touch, washing your hands, and staying clear of anyone that is snotty or coughing SHOULD be enough to keep you from having to worry.   I hope so anyway, because I can't keep up this OCD Germaphobe act for very much longer.

This is “social distancing” combined with hygiene. Exactly what we’ve been asked to do. It’s really pretty easy. 
 

unfortunately waaaay too many don’t. Look at spring break....

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