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Pflueger Patriarch 25 vs Shimano Stradic Ci4+ 1000?

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1 minute ago, Seth said:

I love their bait casting reels, but haven't tried any spinning gear. What model would be equivalent to the Shimano Stradic and Pflueger Patriarch?

 

I use the BG series.  They run around $75-100 and are as good as I'll ever need. The tatula and ballistic are likely good comparisons though.

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1 hour ago, siusaluki said:

 

I use the BG series.  They run around $75-100 and are as good as I'll ever need. The tatula and ballistic are likely good comparisons though.

After reading up on the BG series, I may save the money and go with one of those. A lot of people compare to them to reels around the $200 price point, albeit just a bit heavier.

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I also have a daiwa BG 1500. It is a solid reel. I bought it based on all the great reviews I found online. I think it was a good purchase and an excellent value. I find myself reaching for the fuego lt 1000 when trout fishing due to the significantly reduced weight and more finesse feel overall when paired with a light/ultralight rod. 
I have read some criticism of the fuego with regard to the body flexing. I can see where that may be an issue when fighting larger fish, but it has never been an issue for me catching trout up to 20 inches on 2lb line.   If that’s a concern, I seriously doubt the BG would flex at all....it’s a tough reel. 
 There’s no way I need another spinning reel, but if I was putting together a dream setup with a custom rod....I’d  be looking hard at the tatula. 
I hope you get something put together that is just right for you. A lot of good choices out there. 

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10 hours ago, Seth said:

I love their bait casting reels, but haven't tried any spinning gear. What model would be equivalent to the Shimano Stradic and Pflueger Patriarch? I'm pretty sure Mr Zig Jig had a higher end Daiwa reel on a Crossfire rod at Jig Fest this year that I was playing around with and it felt amazing! I'm not sure what model it was though.

I’ve been a Daiwa guy for a long time. I have fished with friends that had the most expensive Shimano reels they make. They had a lot more line problems than I did and we were using the same line. To the point where he kept Reel Ez to spray on his reels and that didn’t help much. I tried a Pfluger one time and it was heavy and not as smooth as my Daiwas. I like the 2500 and 3000 series reels. They have several good choices in whatever price range you want. i don’t know if it matters to you or not but Shimano did away with anti reverse on their reels a couple years ago and Daiwa still has it. I back reel sometimes so that’s a feature I like.

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Lots of very good suggestions.  I take it you are at the $200 level or there abouts and really most spinning reels at that level are really good.  The BG which several people have suggested is very nice and much less costly.  It will weight more than most as it has a all aluminum body but is a great value for the money and you are not giving up any preformance.   The Ballistic and Tatula are wonderful and might go with an very light weight trout rod better.  The Stradics are solid reels and the latest version,FL?, is really nice.  The Ci4 version is great and a little lighter.  I have no experience with the Patriach but the Plfueger reels are well thought of and enjoyed by many.

I have a BG and a Ballistic.  I also have several older Stradics and one Ci4.  The older Stradics suffered from the binding problems when wet, not sure if the newer ones do.  If you get a chance to visit a store that stocks all of them that would be perfect and putting them on a rod could help to make a decision,  Good luck.   

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21 minutes ago, timinmo said:

Lots of very good suggestions.  I take it you are at the $200 level or there abouts and really most spinning reels at that level are really good.  The BG which several people have suggested is very nice and much less costly.  It will weight more than most as it has a all aluminum body but is a great value for the money and you are not giving up any preformance.   The Ballistic and Tatula are wonderful and might go with an very light weight trout rod better.  The Stradics are solid reels and the latest version,FL?, is really nice.  The Ci4 version is great and a little lighter.  I have no experience with the Patriach but the Plfueger reels are well thought of and enjoyed by many.

I have a BG and a Ballistic.  I also have several older Stradics and one Ci4.  The older Stradics suffered from the binding problems when wet, not sure if the newer ones do.  If you get a chance to visit a store that stocks all of them that would be perfect and putting them on a rod could help to make a decision,  Good luck.   

Great idea to put it on the rod you are buying. It will make the rod feel different too. Like it actually will feel while fishing. I keep one of my new rods and a reel on it in my office so people can feel them together when they stop by.

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I have the Patriarch and would put it at the bottom of my list. It sits on a shelf. Plenty of other really nice reels in the $200 and less range out there. Find one that balances well with your new custom rod.

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The Shimano's have not had a problem in the last 10 plus years.   They did bind when wet back in the early 2000's but have been more than perfect since.  This was caused by a initial gear lube that just did not like water and caused them to stick when wet.  If people that had those would have taken them in and had them PROFESSIONALLY cleaned and relubed they would have had no further problem, as it was never a mechanical issue. I'm still using a 1/2 dozen or so I bought back then. their drag is without a doubt butter.   The Ci4 is the top of their Stradic line and it will last you a lifetime.

On most of my bass gear I'm using Shimano Stella's and some Stradic's.  I got a great deal on the Stella's.

As far as trout gear, most every reel I have now is a Daiwa Fuego either 1000 series or 1500 series.  This is a $110.00 reel and the drag is smooth as silk to the extent it had no problem landing a 40 pound brown trout 4 lb. test main line and on 3 pound test tippet.

If your going to spend a hundred plus, the only reels to chose from are Daiwa or Shimano.  Everybody else is fighting for consolation.

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10 minutes ago, Bill Babler said:

The Shimano's have not had a problem in the last 10 plus years.   They did bind when wet back in the early 2000's but have been more than perfect since.  This was caused by a initial gear lube that just did not like water and caused them to stick when wet.  If people that had those would have taken them in and had them PROFESSIONALLY cleaned and relubed they would have had no further problem, as it was never a mechanical issue. I'm still using a 1/2 dozen or so I bought back then. their drag is without a doubt butter.   The Ci4 is the top of their Stradic line and it will last you a lifetime.

On most of my bass gear I'm using Shimano Stella's and some Stradic's.  I got a great deal on the Stella's.

As far as trout gear, most every reel I have now is a Daiwa Fuego either 1000 series or 1500 series.  This is a $110.00 reel and the drag is smooth as silk to the extent it had no problem landing a 40 pound brown trout 4 lb. test main line and on 3 pound test tippet.

If your going to spend a hundred plus, the only reels to chose from are Daiwa or Shimano.  Everybody else is fighting for consolation.

Bill, I love you to death and respect your opinions.  But I do not buy for one second the Shimano binding problems were a matter of bad grease.  Spinning reels are not difficult to disassemble, clean, lubricate and reassemble.  Done it too many times.  And still had binding problems at the most inopportune times with Shimano reels.  I believe you when you say they are fixed now.  I'll have to take your word for it though, won't buy another.

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The controversial Shimbindo issue was pinned down as a hydraulic bind in the levelwind system.  Supposedly you can drill a 1/32" vent hole in the head that cures it.   Never tried it though, cuz like many others I let mine go for 1.50 in one of our yard sales and never bought another one.

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