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6 hours ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

The goal still stands to catch a big one on a 8-9-inch fly this winter.

 

If you're targeting big ones, I'm a firm believer that fatter is better than longer.   I hate the term "pushing water" but I can't deny that flys that have a fatter footprint catch bigger fish, with more regularity, than long snakes of trailing material.    

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It's all preference and confidence. If you throw something that looks like food in front of a hungry trout they'll eat it. The best and most successful over the last four years have been McSticks, Meg

Take a trip with Duane your learning curve will increase dramatically.

As Ryan said theres about a jabillion variables that could go into this.   Also ask your self if you really want to commit to a full day of slinging jerks.  Im of the mindset if you really want t

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6 hours ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

 

1) I noticed with more than 3 units generating a sink tip with a Sex Dungeon or big double deceiver is about as useful as tits on a boar hog. It just doesn't get it down. Would probably be ok in low light but when they sun is up..no good.

Here's something I've noticed that I think will help you in that situation....

A shorter/heavier sinking section will get the fly deeper and allow you to keep it there.  Down to 5-6 ft anyway (which is plenty deep enough).    Rio has a 7.5' leader with a 7.0 sink rate and that sucker is a bomb, but isn't hard at all to throw.  

Having a sink tip twice that length just invites the current to push/pull it around, keeping it from getting down where you want it.   Guys think that the longer the sinking portion is....the deeper it will go, and in stillwater that's probably true.  But when casting around and over current seams you have way more control with a shorter sinking head.  

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On 10/23/2020 at 11:29 AM, buckcreekmike said:

Headed down in a few weeks and want to fish artificial for trout. I’ve seen/read/tried jerkbaits being successful. Quick question, do you all use “standard” 4” jerkbaits like you would for cold water bass? Do you go with smaller ones than that? I’d be up for hearing color/bait types toy have success with too. I was assuming the megabass knockoff baits would work, bl just seeing if anyone has any insight. Thanks. 

Hey Mike,

I have only been doin the jerkbait thing for a couple years but had a chance to fish once a week for about a 3 month stretch this Spring. My best lures were as follows:

1. Silver Shadow Rap in the 110 size

2. Spro McStick in a purple shad color (donated from @Ryan Miloshewski)

3. Berkley Cutter 110 in tablerock shad color

At night tho, you can't beat the signature series jerkbaits that @duckydoty and Blake make at Lilley's...the 706 and 762 models were both killer on my night trips. Best colors were sculpin and french pearl.

Good luck!

 

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37 minutes ago, Gavin said:

A 30' head is a pain to manage. Will have to try some shorter heads....Most of the ones I have were bought for salmon on the Kenai.300 grains and up.

RIO's "Big Nasty" lines (sinking head followed by a 15' intermediate section)  I initially thought, were going to be awesome.  But I find them totally unmanageable and a PIA.    I can do everything that line is capable of doing with nothing more than a modified (cut down) 10' sinking leader.  With far less fumbling and cussing.

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15 hours ago, MNtransplant said:

Hey Mike,

I have only been doin the jerkbait thing for a couple years but had a chance to fish once a week for about a 3 month stretch this Spring. My best lures were as follows:

1. Silver Shadow Rap in the 110 size

2. Spro McStick in a purple shad color (donated from @Ryan Miloshewski)

3. Berkley Cutter 110 in tablerock shad color

At night tho, you can't beat the signature series jerkbaits that @duckydoty and Blake make at Lilley's...the 706 and 762 models were both killer on my night trips. Best colors were sculpin and french pearl.

Good luck!

 

I’ve been a fan of the purple back McStick for cold water bass.  Probably have a few. 

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4.5" 110mm seems to be the optimum size.  Sometimes 4" 98mm, or 5" 130mm. A 7" Rapala will work if the water is muddy, but the smaller sizes generally draw more strikes in clear and stained water. Ripping them fast with very short pauses seems to work best for trout. Bass will watch it for 5-30 seconds then hammer it when you twitch it....Not so with trout usually. Trout will usually lose interest if you pause it for more than an instant. If you pause too long and see the trout start to drift off course, rip quick with no pauses to trigger the strike. Everything within 50' will see the flash of a jerkbait, so don't waste your time making repetitive casts to the same location. One, maybe 3 casts, then move. You will be wasting your time after that. 

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