Wayne SW/MO Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 I do remember seeing quite a few cotton mouths! On one of those 3? With the extremely low water in SW Missouri I'm sure the Smallies are vulnerable to many predators. I know MDC will probably not do anything to add protection, so we just have to hope and pray for rain, lots of it. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Members bryantsmallie28 Posted January 28, 2006 Members Posted January 28, 2006 You know boys its a hard thing to say, but I really think its a pretty safe bet that we will never see the kind of fishing for smallmouth in the creeks like their used to be. I am only in my early 20's and it has changed tremendously. It just kills me to hear my grandpa talk about how good the fishing used to be in some of these creeks and know that im not gonna be able to experience that kind of smallmouth fishing. It just seems like there are too many people out there who care nothing about anyone else, and has only their betterment, or well believed betterment, on their mind. You see so many people who care nothing about these special places we have, and dont realize how special they are and just use them however they feel. You see so many people doze all the banks up to the creek just for that extra blade of fescue to run one more cow which stands in the middle of the creek all summer. It just kills me when i hear people say something about losing field to the creek, or how shallow the creek is getting and you look out in their field and it is just bare up to the creek and big ol mud banks that are constantly falling in. I guess the thing we have to do is just enjoy what we still have while we have it and take plenty of pictures. I konw from experience its nice to have pictures to look at and see what creeks could produce and dont anymore. Sorry to be so negative but I have just had my fill of some of this stuff and felt like venting. I just hate to see such a good thing go to waste.
Brian K. Shaffer Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 WOW - what a great read! I only wish I could add to this thread.. but I just do not have the experience. Carry on fella's. best fishes - Brian Just once I wish a trout would wink at me! ozarkflyfisher@gmail.com I'm the guy wearing the same Simms longbilled hat for 10 years now.
Wayne SW/MO Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Sadly Bryant I think you're correct. I'm much, much older, and I get very angry when I hear politicians say they are pro environment. I've yet to see a real political environmentalist in this state, and I was born here many years ago. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Danoinark Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 And the same in Ark! ie: Crooked Creek and all of its issues, Dissolved oxygent problem on the tailwaters, yada, yada, yada. Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Fish Bork Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Reading this and other posts have gotten me thinking about my Thesis for grad school. There is a sod farm near Mt. Vernon that takes a lot of water out of the Spring River and was thinking abot doing a study above and below and see how much this is influencing the Centrarchid population. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Wayne SW/MO Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 It would be interesting to know if it impacts the spawn, because of water depth, and if so, how bad. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Members bryantsmallie28 Posted January 29, 2006 Members Posted January 29, 2006 Yeah i know what sod farm you are talking about. It is over near that Talbot Conservation Area. It does seem like its all around the river right there. HAHA if it was affecting it and nothing was done im sure its not too hard to catch about 50 armadillos and turn them loose over there...just kidding
Fish Bork Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 Yeah is called Spring River Turf Farm. I didn't know how big it actually was but looking at satellite photos man the place is huge. Hopefully some land owners around the river will give me access as I don't think there are many public access sites to that river. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
mhall02 Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Reading this and other posts have gotten me thinking about my Thesis for grad school. There is a sod farm near Mt. Vernon that takes a lot of water out of the Spring River and was thinking abot doing a study above and below and see how much this is influencing the Centrarchid population. I haven't caugh too may Centrarchid's in that upper stretch but some very nice O. mykiss in the late '80s early 90s!! (MU BS FW '93, go Tigers!!).
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