96 CHAMP Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 7 hours ago, fishinwrench said: They seem to think that anything over 18" is a hybrid. That may have been true before the hybrids started fertilizing white bass eggs (or maybe it's the male whites fertilizing hybrid eggs.... whichever), but not anymore. Now we have all these Frankenstein's screwing up the native gene pool thanks to the bright ideas of our brilliant fisheries biologists. Sure they are fun to catch, but decisions like that might turn out to be detrimental someday, and it is forever irreversible. Don't go screwing with mother nature. Alleged Christians that think they can do better work than the deity they worship. That's a real mind blower for me. The ones I caught last week to be honest I don't know if they were hybrids or whites, never really looked close enough, but the way they fought and were tearing up the water i assumed they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellros Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, fishinwrench said: I don't think stripers will breed with whites, they spawn later than the Whites and need larger/longer rivers to run up. That's why it has to be done in a laboratory by a bunch of douchebags. They can. They are known as Wipers. very aggressive and Hard fighters. If you catch them on lighter gear, and take some time landing them, they often die from exhaustion. it's best to horse them in ASAP, and release them. They are stocked in a few lakes back home in Nebraska to help with shad and white perch overpopulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ188 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I’m now gonna go wrap my head with duct tape and bailing wire and slop on a half gallon of super glue before it explodes. 96 CHAMP, abkeenan, vernon and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old plug Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Wiper is another nanw for Hybrids. I am with you champ. Guesswere just to old to wrap our brain around this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinwrench Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ellros said: They can. They are known as Wipers. very aggressive and Hard fighters. If you catch them on lighter gear, and take some time landing them, they often die from exhaustion. it's best to horse them in ASAP, and release them. They are stocked in a few lakes back home in Nebraska to help with shad and white perch overpopulations. I'm afraid you're mistaken. Stripers and whites do not spawn together naturally, it is done by people extruding the eggs and mixing in the jizz. The result is what we know as Hybrid Stripers. They are then reared and stocked, again by people. 2 Hybrid Stripers (supposedly) can't successfully reproduce, but the resultant Hybrids can, and do, reproduce with White bass. True (pure) White bass are becoming more rare each year because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 CHAMP Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: I'm afraid you're mistaken. Stripers and whites do not spawn together naturally, it is done by people extruding the eggs and mixing in the jizz. The result is what we know as Hybrid Stripers. They are then reared and stocked, again by people. 2 Hybrid Stripers (supposedly) can't successfully reproduce, but the resultant Hybrids can, and do, reproduce with White bass. True (pure) White bass are becoming more rare each year because of this. You are correct wrench, i am thinking the reason they stocked hybrids in LOZ is to help control the overpopulation and abundance of gizzard shad being they have no natural predators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old plug Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Champ 96 the ones in the picture are Hybrds. Its that numerous broken line pattern that goves them away. We have been having a good year in my neighborhood. Many betwen 14" up to 18" Plus two 27"" and 24 " But with Hybrids and strippers I have learned not to expect consistency. .One day you will get a buncn next day a couple and sometimes just one big one. Further they can frustrate people fishing for them when they bust the surface. Unlike white bass they may very well turn up their nose to anything you thow to them doing that. 96 CHAMP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinwrench Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, 96 CHAMP said: You are correct wrench, i am thinking the reason they stocked hybrids in LOZ is to help control the overpopulation and abundance of gizzard shad Yep, and that attempt failed miserably. So they changed the genetics of native Whites FOREVER.....for nothing. I'd like to kick their asses up between their shoulder blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 CHAMP Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: Yep, and that attempt failed miserably. So they changed the genetics of native Whites FOREVER.....for nothing. Not sure how much good they did controlling the shad population, I am sure you seen the shad out here on this lake at times thick enough to where you could walk across the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 CHAMP Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, Old plug said: Champ 96 the ones in the picture are Hybrds. Its that numerous broken line pattern that goves them away. We have been having a good year in my neighborhood. Many betwen 14" up to 18" Plus two 27"" and 24 " But with Hybrids and strippers I have learned not to expect consistency. .One day you will get a buncn next day a couple and sometimes just one big one. Further they can frustrate people fishing for them when they bust the surface. Unlike white bass they may very well turn up their nose to anything you thow to them doing that. I must have got them in a cooperating mood then plug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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