8 bridge to scotts ford

[jdmidwest]

57 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

The argument is why it has taken a longtime downturn in spite of better education/smarter people, way more sophisticated and modern equipment, and ALOT more money.  

Got any ideas?

I don't know much about your neck of the woods, but I have not noticed many Smarter Peoples around here.  Most I see would drown like a turkey in the rain if their phones did not keep their heads down.

[fishinwrench]

9 minutes ago, jdmidwest said:

I don't know much about your neck of the woods, but I have not noticed many Smarter Peoples around here.  Most I see would drown like a turkey in the rain if their phones did not keep their heads down.

Oh I totally agree, but I keep seeing people standing firmly by the words of people with titles that indicate higher education. And I'm confounded by the fact that I have witnessed alleged dumbasses do a better job in the same place with way less expensive equipment.   

[top_dollar]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Another arrow in the quiver!

A "scientist" just informed me that ignorance has bowels.   See how full of $#!t they are ?!!!!   😂

When your test results come back, be sure to let the oncologist know just how you feel about scientists. 

[Mitch f]

4 minutes ago, top_dollar said:

When your test results come back, be sure to let the oncologist know just how you feel about scientists. 

Wrench only speaks English

[fishinwrench]

26 minutes ago, top_dollar said:

When your test results come back, be sure to let the oncologist know just how you feel about scientists. 

What test results?  There you go assuming that I've ever had a biopsy.

I think you might need a nap.

If anybody ever tells me I have cancer, my response will be "no $#!t Sherlock, who doesn't?"

[Gavin]

FW thinks Fish Biologists are full of themselves, and some of them are. The Girondo’s are not very bright IMO. Ackerson, Meneau, Pratt, and Kruse are good. Not sure if any are still there other than the Girondo’s. They need a move to go  manage walleye in Texas. Probably no Walleye in Texas, but they do well at managing for no fish.

[jfrith]

This “don’t trust the scientists“ sentiment in this day and age amazes me. Believing that a significant portion of scientists falsify data to support their hypothesis for financial gain or whatever else, to me just sounds like more right wing projecting.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, jfrith said:

This “don’t trust the scientists“ sentiment in this day and age amazes me. Believing that a significant portion of scientists falsify data to support their hypothesis for financial gain or whatever else, to me just sounds like more right wing projecting.

I don't believe many falsify their genuine findings, but I believe plenty avoid trying certain things, and/or keep trying certain OTHER things, repeatedly, until FINALLY they get a certain (hoped for) result.....then run with it.

Again, it isn't the scientist himself that truly upsets me, because they aren't the ones deciding what is or isn't going to happen, or be allowed.  It's the ones making things happen BECAUSE of what a scientist has reported to him.

Didymo is a fine example.   Scientists were NOT the ones who banned felt sole boots. But because of them it got done.....and for no good reason.

Scientists were also NOT the ones who put hybrid stripers into a fishery with native white bass either....but they DID say that doing so would cause no genetic alterations of the native whites.....and that was an oopsie that can't be reversed.   Maybe it's ok, and maybe it isn't, but that's a pretty bold move to make with a native species just because you think you did something cool.   It ain't cool. Playing genetic stewpot with species that have been doing just fine on their own since the beginning of time is playing with fire.

They phucked around and ruined marijuana too.   The strains of yesteryear are gone forever, so now I can't take a few hits and go fishing....or do ANYTHING for that matter because I might as well have dropped a hit of acid.

Studying things and learning all you can about them, that's great, but once you have learned all you think you need to know... then STOP.  Quit going all hot-rodder and genetically altering things. Because it becomes permanent and you can never go back.   

Scientists are smart, but they aren't smart enough to know when to stop.  Therefore they are as dangerous as they are helpful. (Consider AI and where that's headed, are you perfectly comfortable with that?)

[45acp]

16 hours ago, top_dollar said:

Did i misunderstand you? 

It appears that you're misunderstanding quite a lot of things.

[45acp]

15 hours ago, Devan S. said:

So for all you guys with the years of wisdom, knowledge, and experience, what fishing has gotten better since X years ago?

Catfishing on the Missouri River, LOz, and Truman.