Thank you very much for the advise.When your talking about flats,do you mean mud flats? Where are these located and what area are you fishing to catch them? I read your post about going into the back of greaser and find running water.I have not done much good there in the past. I went past bridge at turkey creek in 10 fow still no luck.Went to high point fished worm hole 10 to 20 fow still no luck. I used crappie minnows,night crawlers,and a bag of blood red baby Shad with no luck.Fished about two weeks ago on a friday from 1 to 6 pm after all that rain lake level was 878 Regards,Ron