jim murphy

Dave, Primacord only comes in one color, a greyish white. Tippet7, No beadhead, there is enough weight to the primacord to sink and drift naturally on its own. Well, Leonard, I guess that we can keep this our little secret. Yes, what I quoted you saying is pretty much word for word, nothing made up or misquoted. You may have chosen to forget who I am after our first meeting, when you found out about my small successes in flyfishing, as well as fly tying, with hopes that I may share info with you, like I have with so many others. Maybe it is for the best that you do not know who I am. Though in due time, I am sure we will cross paths, maybe then you will remember me and the day we met. But, then again I am sure someone will tell you who I am and then what does that matter? You already made your first impression. jim

Rich, This has got to be one of the humorist topics that I have read on the forum. No names mentioned in the original post, and people just start going off on each other about this and that. I could of swore I just heard Roy D Mercer say that he is going to open up a BIG can of Whoop Butt, BY God, and just how big a boy are you? Leonard, I still remember the day I met you and what you told me. It goes something like this, "if I ever wanted to learn something about fishing Taneycomo at night to go with you sometime." You can pass that invitation on to someone else, with what I have read, heard and seen, I have learned enough, Thanks. So with that being said, I know what you know. Disgusting, how did you let this happen to me without taking you up on that offer, but then again this could be beneficial to me. Okay, now that some seem to want secret information. Here is the special ingredient/material that I use for my San Juan worms at Taneycomo, that just blows fish out of the water. Primacord, approxiamately two inches is all it takes. This material is available only at explosively select fly shops. The real secret to fishing Taneycomo is to present the fly, you have chosen, to the fish in such a manner to make it believe it is food, and sooner or later you will catch fish. jim

Here is the Official Redneck Amphibious Vehicle. It was a tough adventureous day, but as you can see the well trained crew survived, to enjoy a cold one. jim

A friend and I floated from Boiling Spring to Jerome. It was a nice float, and one we intend to do more. The jetboats were numerous, but had no problems with them passing by. There was also a lot of vegetation, though it did not seem to effect the current speed of the river. There was a fair amount of fishing preasure on this section of the river. Most of the people we talked with said that the fishing had been slow. We managed to catch over 20 smallmouth, most of them in the 12 to 14 inch range and had 5 or 6 measuring 15 inches or better. All on variety of soft plastics. The one oddity of the trip was a 13 inch smallmouth I had caught, at Jerome, had a lamprey attached to its side. The lamprey fell off when I took the fish out of the water to remove the hook leaving a small scare. And the Smallmouth seemed in better spirits after losing its excess baggage. jim

HA HA HA HA HA HA, made you look. Can not tell exactly where I caught this P I G Hawg, or what I caught it on. I can give some minute information. I caught it on the down stream side of a gravel bar, on a tributary of the White River, which Lake Taneycomo is part of, and it was LEGALLY hook in the corn of the mouth on 6# tippet. No freyed nylon was used in catching this fish and was released to fight another day. jim

This is one of the numerous logjams in the 12 mile stretch, I floated on Sunday. Yes, I know this was washed into the river after the flooding rains over the last couple of weeks, and I am sure most of it was not discarded by anglers, for those of you who want to go off on that or just read between the lines, as usual. And just think, some of you Ozarkanglers.com readers wondered why I went off earlier in a white bass info posting about freely discarded trash. Could scenes like this be the reason for poor fishing at times? maybe. Limited public access to area waterways? possibly. Private property owners not allowing access through their property? Definitly. It is great that there are over 3000 Stream Teams, as well as many others who pick up trash along our waterways and highways, but when we come across something like this is all of our clean up efforts worth it?

What type / style of drop shot weight do you prefer and why? jim

Friday, it was 64*.

Though what I have written is in black and white, with the exception of the little red section; everyones interpritation is in a different shade of gray/pink. And feel free to read between the lines or into it how ever you want. Venting off steam through this discussion/post? NO not really. Some people do not listen or pay any attention to what is being said or written, unless one gets loud and voiceful or it is directed at them. The farmer did enough venting on his son for me and took his keys away telling him that he will be riding the bus until further notice. In fact, it would not surprise me if this farmer didn't whip his kid's butt later, then set his truck up on blocks, and to top it off, take the tires and wheels off and sell them. Lets just put it this way, the farmer was more disgusted than I was over the situation. The point is and some have appearred to miss it, is that we are losing access to areas to fish because of individuals who show no respect to others. There are people out there who feel that the areas we fish are trash recepticles, and they need to be aware that their actions are inappropriate. Bill, you pointed out that fly fisherman are less likely to trash an area. Well, I vague to differ. Numerous times at Taneycomo, Bennett Springs, Roaring River, James River, Little Sac River, below Power Site Dam, and many others, I have seen fly fishers leave trash behind, even in the areas I have fished out West. Nine foot leader packages are not being purchased by conventional tackle fishers, nor spooled tippet material, though I do know a couple who do use it. I have seen fly fishers carry in bottles of water and food down to Taylor Shoals, on the James and leave them behind on the stream bank. Beverages in cans could go either way. Fly fishers are as much to blaim as others. In fact, there are a couple of fly fishers,who I will not EVER invite to go with me again, because of the trash they left behind. You even know one of them, I pointed it out to them and ask them to pick up their trash, needless to say it was a wasted effort on my part. Now was I directing this issue straight at fly fishers, no. I was pointing out that fly fishers do their fair share of leaving trash behind. The Spring white bass run is one of the most fished times of the year. And all people care about during that time is where are they biting? Well, people need to be more aware of the trash issue more so than were to go. Bill, Yes, I do hang out Backcountry Outfitters, a fly fishing specialty store, my rant is not on its behalf. Should people in the fly fishing community not respect me because I made a post about the trash in an area that I fish? NO, I am sure if they were in my shoes, they would feel the same way. I freely share information with others, some more, some less, and its not any different than any other fly shop. The main point of my rant, as it has been labeled, is that we are going into a heavily fished time of year and this issue, trash being left behind, needs to be pointed out. Was my initial post directed toward Bill, no, He just happens to be the forum leader for this section for temperate bass, which everyone seems to be starting to focus on. People need to be aware of the problem of our access areas being trashed by others. jim

I am extremely familair with this area. It is about 3/8 of a mile from Talley Bend Public Access Area. I do not remember a beach at Talley Bend, but it could be over in the campground area. This peace of property is in a development designed to be like a private campground. The lots are small, just like this one, though big enough for a camper. Do not know much about the water, sewer and electric situation, it was suppose to have a community well and sewer with fees collected through a membership for use. As far as the electric, I believe you have to set up your own meter and hook up. Some of these lots have a steep gradiant and may require some extensive work to get a level site, which is typical for that area. Lake front property? could border Corp property and a short repel to the water. Fishing is good in that area, especially for crappie and catfish. The only draw back is there is about a 2 1/2 mile stretch of Truman lake the runs directly North and South, with Talley Bend access right in the middle. I have seen a lot of days I could have went surfing there. There is a lot of public hunting land in that area as well, good deer and turkey hunting. The price is not bad if that is what you are looking for, 3,000 square foot for about $600. But I would recommend to check it out first. jim

This is the most wanted information out there. Unfortunately, some of the areas I used to fish have become overcrowded. What is more disgusting is the trash left behind by such inconsiderate, worthless individuals, to stinking lazy to pick up after themselves, and still want to know where the fish are biting. Fly fishermen are as much to blame for this as bait and conventional tackle fishermen. Why should we, those who care about the areas we fish, freely give this information out? Am I above everyone for being so stand offish, Hades NO. I treat everyone the same way they treat me; if you poop on me, do not expect me to very open with information or invitations. Too many people have ruined opportunities for others, because of their behavior and lack of respect of public and private property. I get no enjoyment from picking up trash that others left behind in some of the areas I fish. In fact, I picked up 27 Old Milwalkee Light beer cans and the 30 pack box they came in today on a piece of private property that I have access to fish , luckily the property owner knew who did it and I can still access his property , but do not expect me to give out directions :ph34r: . And some people wonder why I am so tight lipped with information. jim

Randall, I may not be the expert temperate bass fly fisherman that Bill Butts is , but I can tell you that you can catch whites and hybrids below Truman whether from the bank or from a boat. Unfortunately, the trees and crowds have grown from when I lived and started fishing there in the early 80's. When the crowds are small you can fish several good areas walking the bank, just watch your backcast and keep it up. Your best angling opportunity is from a boat, you can fish either side of the river, dependent on which and how many generators they are running. As well as, you can control your drift with a trolling motor. Defintely an 8 to 10 weight is needed to fish there. The only time I use a floating line is when there is no water or less than 1 generator running, just watch out for the gar. The remainder of the time I use a sinking line, like the 24' DC series by Rio, and if you only went with one, I would recommend the 200 grain. Right now they are releasing about 16,000 cfs and I would use a 300 to 400 grain line. Fly recommendations, take a lot. Hang ups are frequent, as you know from throwing sassy shad and other jighead type lures. Clouser minnows are a good start, but, when using the heavy sinking lines recommended, you can use flies with a little less weight, they have more action and more movement in the current. The flies I like are Whitlock's Sheep Shad and Waker Shad, Davy Wotton Shad, and a new fly I am creating and still modifying called the Twisted Sheep. The size of the fly can be anywhere from 2 to 6 inches in length. Fly colors, I primarily stick with 2, shad and chartreuse. Good luck, I hope this information helps. jim

Count me in, I will whip up some damsel flies for them. jim

Dano, I thought it was that future World Record Brown with a bad case of gas from the pellet fed stocker rainbows it had eaten. jim

lbt, Drama is good? Did not like the Drama before, but it is good now? Make up your mind, or are you playing on both sides to get a higher approval rating. Now your offended by what people have posted on this topic which you started? You were not very courtious in your previous posts on other topics, I am sure you offended them, but they are not poutting about it, like you are. Why should you be treated differently than those you have degraded? A number of us do have civil conversations here, as well as give each other a hard time and laugh about it. Some topics are informative, some are arguementive, and some are just waaaaaaayyyyyyy out there; the people participating on this open forum is why it is so diverse, with a ton of accessable information thrown in. For only fly fishing for a couple of years, you seem pretty opinionated about your feelings in the posts you have previously made. Here is a suggestion for you to try, now that the silver spoon has been yanked out of your mouth. Start all over on this forum, introduce yourself, your fly fishing goals, if any, and what you would like to learn from this open forum. Think about your posts, before you post them, and expect to be critised on something. Maybe, you will find your way into a fly fishing circle, meet new friends and achieve the fly fishing goals you have set for yourself. Detailed fishing reports? some will be, some will not be. Best thing to do is take all the information you can obtain and put together your own favorite methods, flies, and locations, with specifics on time of year, water levels, and weather, being factors on how you approach certain fishing situations. Spend time on the water and watch how the fish react to your fly and presentation, not just going down and beating a foam on the water trying to catch fish. Do not become an OUTLET fisher, like so many have new to the sport at Taneycomo, you will not learn anything there and there is no sport to it. Outlet fishing is just a waste of time and the tactics you pick up to effectively fish them will not benefit you anywhere else. I can gaurantee you that those who pound the outlets regularly would get spanked at the North Fork of the White River, San Juan River, and many many others. Good luck in which avenue you take, that decission is up to you. jim