You obviously weren't down by Cape Fair the first two weeks of Spoonbill season. The guides tied up every fish in legal size they caught, with eight clients in a boat that is allot of fish, it was sick! The guides are catching all the fish not the clients, eight poles wide all in holders, 16 oz of lead, and driving fast - the clients are just reelers. I can't say I haven't used a guide on a stocked fish, I used a real professional out of Archers and Anglers on my first time trout fishing, he was catch and release kind of guy, a true conservationist.