Thanks Dutch and Quillback, I know a guide can definitely give you a leg up, I might try that at some point. I would LOVE to catch some feeding on top, I have a couple rods rigged up for that already. I also have purchased some umbrella rigs to troll with, I'm building a trolling bar for rod holders for the back of the boat, I plan to try to troll with a couple rods at around 2mph with the trolling motor if I can find the fish. Looking forward to the adventure and I will post results as soon as I get any, until then I'll take any and all the advice I can get.