DaveB

Can anyone recommend any first hand knowledge on the primitive campgrounds in the ONSR? We've camped at all the bigger campgrounds and are looking to try some of the smaller ones. Most specifically, we're looking at Gooseneck and Log Yard, but any details anyone can provide on any of these would be great... http://www.nps.gov/ozar/planyourvisit/camping.htm#primitive * Cedargrove * Bay Creek * Rymers * Gooseneck (formerly Hawes) * Shawnee Creek * Big Tree * Sinking Creek * Cedar Spring * Grubbs * Hickory * Keatons * Log Yard

Thank you Brian, that is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Is the ramp in good enough shape for canoe launching?

Hello everyone! We are planning a trip down to the Eleven Point in the next few weeks and are considering the option of using Turner Mill campground (south) as our base. Are there any facilities (vault toliets) at that campground? Thanks, Dave

We fished/floated the black weekend before last. Above where the East Fork confluence, the river is crystal clear like it always has been. Below the confluence there is a visible layer of mud and silt on the rock bottom. When "shoving off" from the shore, mud is stirred up and the area around your feet and paddles muddies up in a hurry. I drove down in January and in March to check on the river and both times left feeling disgusted at the sight of JSI, the East Fork, and the main river. Now that it's had a few more months and some good rain, it looks a lot better. It'll be interesting to see what happens once the summer crowds pick up and the water gets stirred up with regular canoe traffic and swimmers. Some pictures from January: Lower resevoir: East Fork below the resevoir: From CR-354 (this is above where the East Fork meets the river): From the Mill Creek confluence: The spillway and lower resevoir in March:

Catching them about 10 feet off the shore line fairly deep in heavy cover near the 21 mile marker. Some big'uns too. Seems like they're mostly close the channel in the coves, but today if seemed like they may be moving farther back into the coves. Awfully windy though.

Brian, I contacted the District Ranger for the Eleven Point District on the subject. He said they removed the vault toliets this past winter because they were in poor condition and are replacing them with "wilderness style toliets" this week. According to Tim, the wilderness style toliets are cheaper and will withstand floods better. I have no idea what a wilderness style toliet is.

Had a great trip, the storm Thursday night was a little spooky but we came out just fine. Fishing was slow on Friday but it picked up a little Saturday afternoon. We ended up using Richard's since he is just a few miles up from Greer (where we camped Thursday). Beautiful river and surrounding area, we really enjoyed our weekend. One thing we noticed was that the float camps no longer have vaulted toliets, almost looks like they burned them down and filled them in? We only stopped at three camps, so maybe they're not all like that.

http://www.mdc.mo.gov/documents/nathis/mam...souri_mlion.pdf

Ok, came up with a few more questions. If I'm reading the fishing regulations right, it looks like bass fishing on the Eleven Point (Ozark streams) is closed as of March 1. So no bass fishing on the river, is that right? Also, are treble hooks illegal in the blue ribbon trout area? Thanks, Dave

Thanks Brian. I'll ping my group and see what they want to do about the shuttle. I'll probably give you a shout tomorrow morning.

Hello, First off, let me say that this is a really nice website that has been very useful in my trip planning. It's nice to be able to have such easy access to this kind of information, makes things easier. Now to the point of my post, next week a group of us will be floating/fishing the Eleven Point. None of us have been on the river before and I have a few questions about the shuttle and the float camps. We're floating from Greer Spring access to Riverton access, planning on stopping at one of the float camps over night. The drive between Riverton and Greer looks to be around 20-25 miles up 160 and 19 by my estimates, I'm guessing that's about a 30-40 minute drive one way? Is the parking at both locations safe enough to leave vehicles over night? Is this common practice at these locations or are we better off utilizing one of the outfitters in the area for shuttle duties? Also, regarding the float camps. How large are the camps typically? We'll have three tents, will there be room for that many tents? Can they accomodate more then one group or do you typically have a float camp to yourself? Thanks for any additional information that can be provided, we're really looking forward to our first trip down there. Dave