I agree with Champ. The new E techs are the suppose to be the best on the market. As for having a conversation and listening to the stereo if that is why you have a boat then by all means it's a free country. Me, I talk while I fish and haul balls to the fishing hole. However Griffin, if you would have listened to what I wrote, I don't care if the fish hear me either, I was just stating that a 4 stroke is a waste of money with the new 2 strokes coming out. As a mater of fact, Bombardier thinks they are so great and sales are skyrocketing enough that Johnson will no longer sell 4 strokes above 40 hp in North America after this year.