Thanks for the info guys. Bill, I didn't even think about the turf i was entering my moniker on, as i use it for about everything. I will keep that in mind. Listen, I was a chiefs fan in Denver for 10 years so you can imagine what i went through there! Thank you for the in depth breakdown. You are right, I have always tried to branch out, but just stay close to home in the cove. I love the topwater action, so I will head out to the shallows of the main lake.