drew03cmc

Well, I made the drive to Crane Creek today and was kind of disappointed. I am not as good a fisherman as I had delusions of being. The stream is gorgeous and the fish...well, I needn't say more about them. I started at the City Park and fished upstream of the red bridge as well as downstream of the road, halfway to the dairy farm. To start off with, I was using my Scott 8.5' 5wt and a 9' 5x leader. Well, with a #14 GRHE under a Thingamabobber, I was fishing the nymph rig to anything that looked fishy around the red bridge when the indicator jumped. Well, after a hook set, the prized 7" McCloud came to hand. About an hour later, I was downstream of the road, swinging a black #10 BH bugger to anything I could reach and when it came around a rootwad, the line went tight and the fight was on...well, kind of. It was another 7" rainbow. Now for the disappointment. The only fish of size that I saw was two 12" plus fish that I spooked in the park. darn they were shallow, and I could not see them until they fled the scene of the intrusion. Now, I also saw one more fish in the City Park area and without giving away the location, I swung a bugger around the rootwad of a tree lying parallel to the current and saw a fish flashing my bugger. I got a bit antsy on the hookset and pulled it away from the big fish of the day. I was a little peeved when I was fishing downstream from the park and I hear a chainsaw. Well, I am standing on a gravel bar, drifting a bugger into an undercut and darn tree falls not forty yards from the creek throwing branches a crap my direction. I was pissed. Now, after I ate lunch, I went to the dairy farm access and grabbed the spinning rod and a Rooster tail. I tossed the Rooster Tail up underneath the bridge there and caught another 7" bow. All in all, I did better than I anticipated, but I was hoping for more fish and maybe bigger fish. I wish I lived closer to the creek so I could fish it more often. Now, can I ask a few questions since this type of creek fishing is new to me. How do you fish the deeper, faster water? How heavy a fly is normally used for fishing these types of situations?

Al, nobody insinuated you have edited or deleted some of those posts, but the way it was presented by an apparent attorney was that you would like to get rid of some opposing posts regarding something you are very passionate about. Is that wrong?

Just wait a month or two...

You want things to be trimmed down, and posts are not commonly edited here. I am not going to simmer down because someone new thinks they know how THIS forum should be run. You assume that people would want to edit someone else's posts just because they have a different opinion. Is being gentlemanly too much to ask? Who said that Phil and the admin team is frustrated? This forum has a way of taking care of itself. If you think you know better, start your own forum. Now, I know you have to have the last word, go ahead. Kev, of course threads get axed...no big deal there.

Are you kidding me? You have been a member three months and already want to request that threads get trimmed down? Would you like to be the final word on which posts get axed? How about you personally go in and edit them? The rules are to be gentlemanly, does it need to be spelled out?

As it reads, you do not need a trout stamp to fish for trout, just to possess trout.

I have to agree. I haven't the first idea about catching trophy trout with regularity, and I learn from all of your posts on the subject.

Eric, argue? No way...me, argue, nope...TF, argue, never... Now that that is sorted out, all we have to say is we are playing on Phil's court, with Phil's ball (sorry, bad choice of words) and by Phil's rules. If we don't like it, we can leave.

That fish was stocked, can't reproduce and legally can be kept. Why does everyone have such an issue with someone keeping a legal fish? Good on you! You wanted trout, you caught a very nice fish! How did he taste?

20, a record? No. World record rainbow is 43 and change I believe. Alaska record is 42-3.

That is why Phil has said to lay off political discussion, gl***l wa****g and other subjects. It is his forum, not a public forum, and therefore we play by his rules or go home. It really is that simple.

I will call Tim tomorrow and see what he thinks.

Not to nitpick, but those brookies aren't native in the mountains in the west and rainbows aren't native to the Snake. They are just like rainbows in Missouri. They don't belong, but are here, so we have to deal with them.

I didn't sign the petition, but I contacted Lynn Jenkins trying to persuade her to vote against the closures for all sportsmen.

Yeah...you've never talked to this lady...

They do eat flies, just not predictably or often. Enjoy that one DD! I wish I knew how to read that darn SI. All I see are stripes.

I did just write my representative, but if she looks at my voting record, she won't respond. I voted for the other guys

That is how it is supposed to work. How is it then that the most crooked of the politicians in this country have set up shop in Congress for more than 20 years? They do not fear their constituents anymore. I wish it worked the way the system was set up, but it doesn't. Everything is partisan now and will be for the foreseeable future.

Is the creek up? If so, how much? Would a trip Friday be a waste of time and gas? Thanks everyone!

That's the answer I was looking for. Thanks Seth.

^^ This. Keeping an illegally hooked fish is unethical, not to mention illegal, especially in a black bass tournament. Man hasn't completely destroyed their ability to spawn. They still reproduce in the Missouri and Mississippi. I won't go into my opinions on the God matter, but the scientific purpose of a paddlefish is to eat plankton. They are filter feeders and that is what they do. Did "god" put trout here to eat caddisflies? Are bass here just to eat crawfish and minnows? So, you don't return paddlefish to the water after snagging them? If it is legal, nobody here will have much of a problem with you keeping what you catch.

Wow, go ahead and make a call or write a letter. It isn't going to matter what we want. The only thing that matters is the money they can save or spend in this case.

Your "effort" will be just like if I tried calling the White House about this. You will talk to somebody who has no interest in listening to you and will have wasted time doing so.

That's not how American politics works anymore. In an idealistic Republic, the government should fear the people. They have us all fearing them and they know it. Politicians do whatever it takes to get reelected rather than do what it takes to fulfill campaign promises. This bill may get passed, and we, as sportsmen, will have to reap whatever they would have us reap.

Umm, can a fish with a size 15/0 treble run through its side survive and heal acceptably after release? I only ask because if these fish are being released with a possibly mortal wound, isn't that unethical? I would like to catch a couple bills but honestly, I can't say the work for them is worth it. I have tried snagging and caught a few trees on the Osage below Truman, but no fish...