Justin Spencer

Think of how many more golf courses we could have if we got rid of cemetaries. I don't blame the funeral homes we all know that we and our loved ones will die at some time so death is not the time to make those decisions. It is ridiculous how you go through the funeral home and pick and choose what you want for the funeral all with dollar signs attached. Fun to see their faces when you say you just want cremation as they see dollar signs burning with the body. I think it is comforting to some people to have this service and by all means that is their choice however silly it may seem to the rest of us. This is just another business that like it or not helps drive our economy.

Some interesting facts I ran across the other day, seems like a waste to me and will probably become an issue in the not to distant future. Is death a man made problem? Each year, 22,500 cemeteries across the United States bury approximately: 30 million board feet (70,000 m³) of hardwoods (caskets) 90,272 tons of steel (caskets) 14,000 tons of steel (vaults) 2,700 tons of copper and bronze (caskets) 1,636,000 tons of reinforced concrete (vaults) 827,060 US gallons (3,130 m³) of embalming fluid, which most commonly includes formaldehyde.[2] They did say the formaldehyde breaks down to an inert substance before it reaches the soil so at least it may not be polluting the soil and groundwater.

He definately knows what he is doing. Great job for first trip to NFoW. 3-4 fish per spot is pretty much what I hope for when I fish here, hope you found a few with some size, the parr marked bows have been most of my catch lately. Although I caught one rainbow the other day that was 10-12 inches and still had parr marks, pretty cool fish. Good meeting you Jeff and look forward to fishing with you.

I suppose you don't believe in Santy Claus either.

Welcome Focker. I have several male friends who have recently become or are becoming nurses and anymore I don't think it is considered a female position. A great profession in a much needed area good career decision in an area that really can make a difference. You need to get your brother down to Dry Run Creek at Norfork Dam, great handicap accessible area (although you can't fish) but your brother would have a chance to catch some fish the rest of us only dream about. Good to have you on the forum, and I'm sure you're probably getting tired of the Focker joke so I apologize.

My sentiments exactly. Maybe the funniest thing I have ever heard. Think it's time to recalibrate the translator. Not to be rude either.

Not a choice but the best to catch fish out of by far in the right water. I would say canoe with 2 men next, just too hard in flowing water to fish and float at the same time. Canoes and kayaks are good to get you from place to place to wade. Single man pontoons work well to fish from as well, better than canoes or kayaks if you are alone in my opinion because you can steer a little with your feet.

Been catching lots of rainbows on egg with egg dropper, a few big fish but tons of parr marked. Did see the stocking truck last Wed. so there should be a few browns left from Blair down to Dawt if the otters haven't eaten them all yet. Let me know what they are biting if you get in to them. I'd fish below Patrick and just below the spring outlet, walk down past Althea Spring at Patrick. I'd fish downstream of the public access at Blair, good riffle a short distance down. Should be plenty of fish either of these places. If you are willing to part with a whopping $5 bill you can come fish the water in front of my campground. I do 90% of my fishing here and can give you a few pointers on where I've been catching them lately. Good luck and let me know how you do.

You take the good you take the bad. He invented the internet and created global warming. Is he the second coming or is he Satan, you be the judge.

Pretty entertaining though!

How would you feel about being the official face of Sunburst Ranch, compensation is flexible but I don't think it will cost you all that much.

darn you people I thought I ask for no debate! Since that didn't happen here's a comment. How are windmills and solar panels not environmentally friendly. May not be a solution, but other than killing a few birds (which my windows do on a daily basis) I think these things are pretty environmentally friendly. I think nuclear plants are a good solution to reduce greenhouse gasses, but we are creating another type of waste that will have to be dealt with at some point in the earth's history. I don't really know how I feel about nuclear power but I do know it is not a source without some sort of future consequences to deal with.

I am interested from those who think that the science of global warming is being made up, who is benefitting from this percieved false information. No one demographic (that I'm aware of) is getting rich from the attempted proof that global warming is related to human activities. Everyone understands that the other side stands to benefit if we can prove that it is not man made. Believe me I would love to believe that it is not man made and that the burning of fossil fuels does not hurt the planet. Who wouldn't! I would say most of us started out thinking this problem was being exaggerated and no big deal, but slowly have been convinced that we do play a role, and for me I'm afraid we play a major role in the climate changes we are seeing.

Thanks for the commentary Tim. For many people (me included at times) these first hand accounts of drastic changes are the most powerful proof that something bad is going on. I think those of us that have experienced the loss or degradation of something natural we once enjoyed take the issue more personally and therefore are more passionate about our position. Thank you for adding to this topic by talking about the reefs, which (believe it or not) was all I was trying to bring to the attention of the readers at the beginning of this thread. Glad the poll hasn't led to anymore discussion

If you look at the original post that is exactly what I did for that particular reason. I shot the video in late October I believe, right after a cold front so it really slowed the fishing but was a nice day on the river.

If rubberlegs are not legal here then they probably wouldn't be in a blue ribbon area. That would make probably 90% of the fishermen on the NFoW and Eleven Point(guides, clients, included) guilty at some point and time. Not anything I will worry about, they can take my life, but they'll never take my RUBBERLEGS!

Obvioulsy there have been warmer times and cooler times in the history of the planet, but they all came with extinctions and often times were like pressing the reset button on the planet. It is not that the changes aren't part of a cycle, but this cycle is happening much faster than should be expected. Evolution has allowed many organisms to survive over time, and if change is slow enough evolution is able to keep up with this change. If these changes come about too quickly evolution can not keep up and we experience extinctions. Extinctions are normal, changes in climate and ecosystems are normal it just seems as though we are seeing unnatural changes that can be traced back to human activities. Take what Gavin said about snow, they used to sell snowmobiles everywhere in Northern Missouri, armadillos used to only live in the South, I used to winterize the campground in October (bad example). Outside Bend mentioned the changes he has seen changes in the mountains. Just taking things each of us have observed shows that change is taking place. I have really seen no one disagree that warming is occuring, putting the science aside, common sense tells me that the overpopulation of humans probably is a major player in climate change, the exponential growth of the human population paired with the technological advances that have been powered by fossil fuels has to have a negative impact on the health of the planet. I always think back to the J shaped curved of exponential population growth. In every instance (human population not included) the curve goes up like a J and when carrying capacity is surpassed we see the line drop back to where we started because of a catastrophic event such as disease outbreak. Thanks to advances in medicine humans have been able to aviod this natural population check. While this has been good for us it has been bad for the planet. Hopefully before we experience that we will see a reduction in human population and clean up our act. Unfortunately population reduction would be harmful to the world's economy so I don't expect to see that becoming a priority.

I did mine on cyberlink director came with the cheap hp computer we bought in the spring. OF course they give you the program that can have upgrades you can add to it for a fee. I am just using the free version. Easy to use and does a pretty good job, didn't even know it was on my computer until my 7 year old popped a DVD into the TV and low and behold it was home videos and snapshots set to music that he had made. I had him show me how he did it and now I'm nearly as good at it as him.

Glad we agree that a world without pork is bad, no hard feelings here and anyone who likes to fish and isn't opposed to drinking a few beers is a friend of mine regardless of their views on politics, global warming, etc. The world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed about everything.

Right now I wish we had a little more global warming (just spent the last hour fixing a broken pipe in well house). If global warming isn't man made what are the consequences if we act like it is. Maybe some sticker shock for power and some goods while we move toward cleaner energy, however if we lead the world in developing new sources of energy it might actually boost our economy (maybe wishful thinking). Plus we would eventually get cleaner air and water, and a better quality of life (cue the tweeting birds) What are the consequences if those who think it isn't man made are wrong? Our grandchildrens faces melt off, they drown in a rapidly rising ocean, pigs get skin cancer and we have no more pork. The Choice is Simple

Quit reading things into the question. This is your opinion, you need nothing to back it up just wondering what most people think, your gut feeling.

The reef article has sparked a global warming debate which won't be resolved anytime soon. I am just curious as to what people on this forum think about man's role in global warming.

Don't know what type of education you have podum, but I think you might be offended if someone dismissed your education as being based on faith not fact. Seems like every piece of scientific evidence you don't agree with is dismissed and those you agree with are embraced, I guess that makes you feel better about yourself and society and I can't argue with that. Don't worry be happy. Glad you are out! And thanks for your opinions. Back to the topic. If you want to vacation on the reefs please do so soon as they may not be there forever.

I spent 4 years undergrad and 2 years in graduate school studying this mythical science (sure wish you would have told me this before I wasted my time in college). I graduated with an Environmental management degree so I think I have studied the REAL science more than most people. There are people much smarter than us with expertise in this area that have proven time and time again we are a component in global warming. What I learned about over a decade ago predicted changes that have come about much quicker than we had predicted. I think it is extremely naive to think humans have not sped up this process (which could be considered natural). If there is even a slight chance that we are the ones causing this warming shouldn't we take action to try and slow the process? As a society we spend so much time trying to make sure something is 100% fact before we act on it that nothing ever gets done! Al (Agnew not Gore)summed it up very well, thank you for you time. Unfortunately I think he is right that we won't be able to do enough to fix things. This is both sad and infuriating to some people and I think that is what makes many environmentalists come off as crazy. While I don't agree with everything Al Gore has done or said he has tried to use his influence to bring an awareness to the environmental problems we are facing. Sadly because of his political views this has further split the country on an issue that should have nothing to do with party affiliation. It will all come down to what hits us in the pocketbook that forces us to change. To me that is the only positive when I see gasoline prices go up, unfortunately coal is still cheap and easy to get so until this starts to run out we will probably continue to see big changes is our climate and weather patterns.

Take time to read before you write and you will see that that wasn't the comparison I was making. I normally have a very open mind about most people's opinions, but on this one the evidence is so overwhelming I am going to say you are 100% wrong. I would love to see some concrete evidence to the contrary otherwise my mind won't change.