Casting an 00 line weight rod

[Brian K. Shaffer]

I am curious about these rods.. but I am not a fish killer.

Do these 00 line weight rods have the ability to really be fished with ?

I cast the 0 years ago when it came out.. but then this new 00 size threw me for a loop.

Are we sacrificing a trout because we want to fish a 'wispy' fly rod ?

screaming reels - Brian

[mizzouflyfisher]

I really don't see the point in a 00 rod. I've got a light 2 wt. Even with that I have had 20+" fish that I could not move with the rod. I had to stand right over the fish and pull straight up, and I could still barely move the fish. I have to say the rod is fun to cast, but I will never purchase anything below a 2 wt. I guess those rods are just made for those who want everything. Who knows?

[Brian Wise]

I don't think you could find a better bluegil rod. No honestly though I think their only place on a trout stream is a dink of a creek you can jump across and not catch anything bigger than like 10"....that would be fun.

Brian

[Fox Statler]

I am rebuilding my 11 foot 6 inch zero weight, I am changing the quides on it. I like to fish 8X for the bigger trout using very small bugs with it. I also have a 10 foot one, two, and four weights rods. Here is the way I see using the lighter rods. The terminal tackle (the tippet) determines the weight of the rod to use. Let's say that a one weight works best when using 8X tippet, then a two weight would use 7X, three weight 6X, four weight 5X, five weight 4X, six weight works the rod best when using 3X, and so on. So by matching the rod to the tippet, using this method, lets us use a tippet that best matches the flex of the rod when fighting a fish. This allows the angler to fight the fish at the break strength of the line, and that makes it fun, sharpens the angler's skills and gives the fish the option of breaking off. Believe it or not, using a small tippet (7x) on a big weight rod (6 weight) is a mismatch and the angler actually takes longer to land the fish than if he/she were using a two weight. Why? Because the angler has to compensate for his unforgiving rod and fight the fish with less vigor. Also think about this, most line weight records are between 10 to 13 times the line strength. I am not saying that ultra-light fly fishing is for everyone, just those that want to test and improve their fighting abilities.

[Brian K. Shaffer]

Let's say that a one weight works best when using 8X tippet, then a two weight would use 7X, three weight 6X, four weight 5X, five weight 4X, six weight works the rod best when using 3X, and so on. So by matching the rod to the tippet, using this method, lets us use a tippet that best matches the flex of the rod when fighting a fish.

Smarter words havent been read by this angler yet.. thanks Fox!

best fishes - Brian

[mizzouflyfisher]

So Fox, exactly how many rods do you have? Seems to me they could be given some love by somebody that would put them to use, say me. What do you think about a donation? Seriously though, for somebody with so many rods, what is your most favorite rod? I know there are a lot of different situations and consideration, but what is your absolute favorite rod?

Mizzouflyfisher

[Fox Statler]

I love a ten foot two weight for trout, sunfish, and crappie; and a nine foot nine weight for bass, musky, gar and the big stuff. I don't care for the middle weight rods because they are too big for the small stuff and too small for the big stuff. I love the longer rods but my hands aren't as strong as they used to be, so now I use longer handles. This lets me move my grip forward the handle during the fight and use my forearm on the butt of the handle or reel seat for leverage.

[Brian Wise]

I could see using a 10 footer, I will say that. But the 00 that everyone knows (and the only in mass production) is Sage's and it's only 7'10", I just don't see much more use for that rod than my post above.

I agree with you Fox on most of what you said but where does rod action come into play. If I have a seriously slow 5 wt I will easily fish 7x with that rod.

Brian