Midge/Scud

[jOrOb]

I recently have found success combining patterns that immitate both (at least to me). Last week, I had pretty good success using a #18 yong special.

I have always thought it had more of a scud profile than a midge, so I recently tied a few in #12. Fishing them along the bottom produced similar results as with other scud patterns.

So last week, I experimented with the #18. Fished near the bottom, it caught fish (more like a scud). Fished near the surface it caught fish (more like a midge). Unfortunately, I caught fish on midge and scud patterns that day, so I cannot say what the trout were thinking when they took.

But, it did lend to my theory that fish key in on silouette more than anything, making presentation much more important than pattern.

What do you guys think???

jOrOb

[Greg]

What's a yong special?

Greg

[jOrOb]

Check this out:

http://shop.flyfishing.about.com/fly_archi...etails/1291.htm

The Yong Special I was using was tied on a #18 Curved hook.

jOrOb

[Greg]

Thanks. That's an interesting looking fly. Looks simple to tie as well.

Greg

[Wayne SW/MO]

I had an interest in them at one time, but I couldn't find what I thought was a reasonable color in the thread. He doesn't say what size thread, but I was looking at some of the heavier ones at Wal Mart.

What did you use?

[Brian K. Shaffer]

I met Andy "Yong" Kim on the S/J this past fall.

He was cordial.. he didnt know his clients and he were inching closer and closer to my upstream casting drift.

I am glad he was rather friendly too.. cause I caught like 8 fish in front of he and those clients in a 1 hour period.

On my way out - he and I exchanged a handshake.. and he asked me who I was.

I am just another average nobody I said.

best fishes - Brian

[jOrOb]

I picked up a pretty heavy thread, and it is really too big for the small patterns. It produced a pretty fat little bug. It worked great in 12 and 14 though. I chose a pretty heavy blend (I think it was button thread). The color I chose was a dark tan, which gets darker when you apply Sally Hansons.

[Simsmarine]

Wayne, Wal-Mart has a little palm sized sewing kit, it is marketed under another name but if you look at the back of the bubble package it says "mfg by Coats & Clark". There are 6 spools of thread in the kit and the much praised "summer brown" is included. All the colors in the kit would/or could be good midge colors (except for maybe the blue). It twists up real good and I'd bet my last dollar that it is the original stuff that started the YS pattern.

I did up a bunch of 24-22 YS's several years ago and gave them a workout at Bennett, the white turns a yellowish cream color after it gets "stream stained" and I did real good with it around the weedbeds at the highbank stretch. I never fish it anymore though cuz I hate fishing for above average fish with 7X... 6X seems like "barge rope" when tied to a 22-24

Gaston says they use 5X with 24's on the SJ, but I just can't bring myself to do that.