Carry On Tackle

[flyfishinggolfer]

One of my Christmas gifts is the new Orvis carryon bag. I am going to the Keys, again wth fly rod and spinning gear. Last time I flew to the Keys, I checked my flies and other terminal tackle and carried on my rods and reels. I spoke with one fisherman who takes his flies and terminal tackle as carry on with no problem. Also, the various TSA and Southwest Airlines websites state that fishing tackle is allowed as carryon. However, it doesn't specifically mention hooks. I would assume that hooks are included with "tackle" but I would hate to get to the gate security and not be allowed to carry my hooks and flies on.

Has anyone recently travelled with fishing tackle, including flies and hooks, and was allowed to carry them on?

Thanks,

Dan

[mAngler]

From the TSA website: (TSA Website: Article on Hunting and Fishing Items)

Tackle Equipment - Fishing equipment should be placed in your checked baggage. Some tackle equipment can be considered sharp and dangerous. Expensive reels or fragile tackle such as fly's should be packed in your carry-on baggage.

Pesonally, I check my flies in my baggage, but looks like there should be no problem carrying them on.

mAngler

[Micheal Kyle]

I would check everything except for my rods and reels. That is how I do it.

When are you going to the Keys.

[Mr. Ed]

I’ve made quite a few trips to the Keys (Islamorada). We fish off shore so the amount of gear is pretty substantial. I just ship ahead of time to where I’m staying or to a shipping co… there’s one at about mm95. Then just ship it back at the end of the trip. I really makes the traveling part easy. Having said that… if you’re just talking a short tube and a pack I would try to carry the rods/reels and your flies... everything else in stowed luggage.

[timsfly]

Once when going to Mexico they let me carry on all my flies on at springfield, and when flying back from Mexico,

they took my flies and my forceps away from me and thru them in the trash, they took

the flies because of the hooks, I had a lot of bonefish and permit and tarpon flies, so I would just carry on rods and reels

and check everything else.

When I fly to N.Z. I always pack the essentials rods, reels, and small stuff I can pack in my carry on, you can buy clothes

over there pretty easy, but fly tackle is very expensive in N.Z.

[flyfishinggolfer]

I’ve made quite a few trips to the Keys (Islamorada). We fish off shore so the amount of gear is pretty substantial. I just ship ahead of time to where I’m staying or to a shipping co… there’s one at about mm95. Then just ship it back at the end of the trip. I really makes the traveling part easy. Having said that… if you’re just talking a short tube and a pack I would try to carry the rods/reels and your flies... everything else in stowed luggage.

Thanks for the tip. I may give it a try.

We are going to Marathon for a long weekend the last weekend in February. We were in Key West in October. We are staying at the Seashell Resort on the water (wife thought it looked cute). They advertise their own flats fishing and complimentary kayaks.

In October, I sunk a lot of $$ into guide fishing. No complaint. The guide was awesome! I caught skip jack, yellowtail snapper and some worthless blue runners with the fly rod. But, do you know of places along highway #1 in the Keys, where a fly fisherman can wade in on his own, without a guide, and get a shot at something, even mangrove snapper?

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[flyfishinggolfer]

I would check everything except for my rods and reels. That is how I do it.

When are you going to the Keys.

I think I will check my flies. I tie my own and would hate to see them taken away.

We are going to Marathon the last weekend in February. We were down in Key West in October with friends. This is just a me and the wife long weekend trip. Kids are back in college and why not.

I am going to take a stab at fly fishing a flat on my own. Of course, I have to find the flat first.

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[Mr. Ed]

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This is a piece from The Florida Sportsman Forum... a lot of info to be had at this forum.

You can see the whole thread at... http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=95444

Here is a note cobbled together from several sources:

Shore fishing is not easy for Bones and I would guess near impossible for Permit & Tarpon. The few places that you can wade for are not heavily fished but they get good traffic, so Bones and the others are well seasoned and a little shy. Permit because you need to see them at nearly 100 ft in order to maneuver to within casting distance, they are to quick when your on foot. Tarpon are easy enough to get close to, but you need deeper water, 4-6 ft, again not easy when your wading. You may luck out and see some near channels or cuts, but if you were to hook one of any size u b in deep dodo......

Sidebar, the Key's are strung along US 1 and in the old days all mail was delivered via mile markers(mm), They start in Key West(MM 0) and end in Florida City (MM 126). The Key's run from the east to the west and if you include the Tortugas, stretch for almost 200 miles.

Now as for wading the flats, yes, there are lots of spots. Most of the productive fishing is going to be in the early mornings at around sun set. Tides also are a

major factor, but because of their complexity, it's not worth getting into.

Starting at the Mile Marker 126, just south of Florida City, if you see shallow water, there are fish... There are Snook, Red's, Tarpon, Permit, Bones, and just about anything you can cast to, available most of the year, just not a lot... If you have never tried a fly on a barracuda or shark, I strongly suggest you give them a shot. They are just as fast and spectacular as the Slam fish. You can go after the smaller Bonnet(2lb-6lb) with a 6wt, Cuda(3lb-15lb) with a 8wt-10wt, up through the Bull/Nurse/Lemon shark with your 12wt, and they are all on the flats. You can wade to them. The only adder is a small piece of wire to ward off sharp teeth,, if you want your fly back... There are also Jack's, Grunts, Ladyfish, Spotted Trout, and to a lesser extent just about everything else. I have caught King Mackerel to 35lbs in 12 ft of water between the old and new Bahia Honda bridges. Bull Shark's up to 250lbs.

There is a gap in road side fishing between upper Key Largo(mm 107) and Lower Matecumbe(mm 74) because most of the area is commercial or private and built up.

The Highway Flat a mm 74 on the ocean side. This is a great flat located across the street from the Rodus Building, 74560 Overseas Highway. Hurricane Georges stripped away what used to be a lovely stretch of sand dunes covered with sea oats bordering this flat. The flat is still fishable, just not as pretty. You can park across the street from the Rodus Building, a square white multi-story building. This flat runs east and west for approximately 1/2 mile, good hard bottom and GREAT bone fishing. Do not park at the East end of the flat as that area is private property and was marked as such the last time I was there. This flat has no rest rooms or any facilities, just very good fishing. Don't pass it up.

Anne's Beach is a favorite wade fishing spot. A fabulous flat approximately 1/2 mile long with good hard sand bottom. Anne's beach is located just West of the Calusa Marina on the ocean-side. Anne's Beach has two entrances about 1/2 mile apart. There are rest rooms at the East end and hard, marked parking areas at the East and West ends. Each entrance is connected by a great boardwalk, which runs

right along the shoreline and has access walks going down to the water interspersed along the boardwalk making access to the flat very easy. There are also covered picnic areas along the boardwalk with tables and benches, just right for lunch. The bone fishing here is very good with an excellent chance of seeing a permit on the West end of the flat where it butts up to a deep-water channel. This is a public park and is very popular with bathers. Avoid the weekends and fish early or late. There is usually plenty of room for fishing particularly in the middle area of the flat.

Long Key State Park Recreational Area Long Key State Park is located just West of MM 68, on the ocean-side. This park has an entrance fee of $3.00 per car and is well worth it. The park features camping areas if you are a camper and you can pitch a tent or back your trailer right up to the beach. It also has shower facilities and rest rooms as well as picnic tables. A paved road runs the length of the park and makes access that much easier. I usually turn right after paying my entrance fee and drive about half way down the park to the West and park facing the ocean. A very short walk, 15-20 feet, and you are fishing. On a high tide watch the shoreline, as the bonefish will get right in on the beach and tail. I like to start wading in the middle of the flat and work my way slowly up to the East end in close to the shore line and if the light and the wind are right, move out a little and work back to the West. It just doesn't get any better than this. Excellent facilities and very good fishing.

On Vaca Key(downtown Marathon), you might try Sombrero Beach. It is public, has sand, it right next to a really good cut, might be worth a try in the early am or at dusk.

Veterans' Memorial Park This park is located at Mile Marker #40, right on the West end of the 7-Mile Bridge. Turn left and go down the hill where you will find a good

parking area with rest rooms and concrete pavilions which cover picnic tables and benches. A great flat with a nice hard sandy bottom. Excellent bone fishing with a

chance of a permit on a high tide near the edge of the channel. The family can sit and burn in comfort while you hunt world records...

Bahia Honda State Park Located on Bahia Honda Key between Mile Markers 36 and 37. This is very large Park, over 2 miles in length and offers some of the best wade

fishing available for bonefish. This flat borders a deep water channel on the East end where there is always the chance of coming upon a permit. It has a good hard bottom and a variety of types of bottom from clean white sand to mottled with some grass. Bahia Honda offers camping, picnic facilities as well as rest rooms and showers and even a concession stand if your tastes run to a hot lunch [hot dogs and hamburgers]. This facility requires an entrance fee of $3.00 and well worth it. It is very nice at the end of your fishing to be able to take a shower and change into some dry clothes. For up to date information you can call the park at 305-872-2353.

Just after the new Bahia Honda bridges, is Spanish Harbor Key(it's labeled West Sugarloaf Key). About 100ft after the bridge ON THE RIGHT is a small side road the

leads down to a parking area. Wonder out to the north and you will find a pit dug by the rail road for fill, it's 35ft deep but is quite shallow on the outsides. Try the area between the pit and the bridge. Also, on the south side of the road there are some shallows, but they drop off quick.. Current is also very fast and strong, up to 7mph. You don't want to be caught in it, kills 1 or 2 each year...

Further west are still more spots, going all the way to the beaches of Key West.

Caution::: Always be sure of where you are wading. Do not attempt to cross areas that are green or dark blue in color-these colors indicate deep water, or soft mud bottoms. I very seldom wade deeper than my knees. Be aware of what the tide is doing and do not get caught far off the beach with a fast rising tide or you may have to swim part of the way back. This is very difficult with an expencive fly rod & reel.

The following is a list of equipment you might consider for wade fishing expeditions:

FLY ROD - a fast action, 9ft., 8wt.

FLY REEL - GOOD DRAG & a floating line and 200 yds. of 20lb. test backing.

FLIES - a mix of Clousers, Deceiver's, Shrimp, Crab, in tan, brown, green, white,

sizes 4, 2, 1/0 BITE TIPPETS: Other than Bones and maybe Permit, our fish have teeth, I use 12"-15:" of 20lb up to 80lb mono for Tarpon, wire for cuda & shark.

WADING BOOTS or hard bottom dive booties - a must have piece of equipment for safe wading, always wear them no matter where you are wading

STRIPPING BASKET - optional

POLARIZED SUNGLASSES - another must have item

SMALL, FLAT fly box - carry different patterns and a few extra leaders

SUNSCREEN - another must have item, even in winter

WATER BOTTLE - put on your belt, it will save you a trip back to shore

LONG-BILLED HAT - make sure the underside of the bill is a dark color so it won't reflect the glare back into your eyes .

Long Sleeve shirts & pants if your light skinned.

Now all you need is a soft breeze, a cloudless sky.....

Good Luck

[flyfishinggolfer]

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This is a piece from The Florida Sportsman Forum... a lot of info to be had at this forum.

You can see the whole thread at... http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=95444

Thanks, Ed. I got it all down. I really do appreciate it.

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Here is a note cobbled together from several sources:

Shore fishing is not easy for Bones and I would guess near impossible for Permit & Tarpon. The few places that you can wade for are not heavily fished but they get good traffic, so Bones and the others are well seasoned and a little shy. Permit because you need to see them at nearly 100 ft in order to maneuver to within casting distance, they are to quick when your on foot. Tarpon are easy enough to get close to, but you need deeper water, 4-6 ft, again not easy when your wading. You may luck out and see some near channels or cuts, but if you were to hook one of any size u b in deep dodo......

Sidebar, the Key's are strung along US 1 and in the old days all mail was delivered via mile markers(mm), They start in Key West(MM 0) and end in Florida City (MM 126). The Key's run from the east to the west and if you include the Tortugas, stretch for almost 200 miles.

Now as for wading the flats, yes, there are lots of spots. Most of the productive fishing is going to be in the early mornings at around sun set. Tides also are a

major factor, but because of their complexity, it's not worth getting into.

Starting at the Mile Marker 126, just south of Florida City, if you see shallow water, there are fish... There are Snook, Red's, Tarpon, Permit, Bones, and just about anything you can cast to, available most of the year, just not a lot... If you have never tried a fly on a barracuda or shark, I strongly suggest you give them a shot. They are just as fast and spectacular as the Slam fish. You can go after the smaller Bonnet(2lb-6lb) with a 6wt, Cuda(3lb-15lb) with a 8wt-10wt, up through the Bull/Nurse/Lemon shark with your 12wt, and they are all on the flats. You can wade to them. The only adder is a small piece of wire to ward off sharp teeth,, if you want your fly back... There are also Jack's, Grunts, Ladyfish, Spotted Trout, and to a lesser extent just about everything else. I have caught King Mackerel to 35lbs in 12 ft of water between the old and new Bahia Honda bridges. Bull Shark's up to 250lbs.

There is a gap in road side fishing between upper Key Largo(mm 107) and Lower Matecumbe(mm 74) because most of the area is commercial or private and built up.

The Highway Flat a mm 74 on the ocean side. This is a great flat located across the street from the Rodus Building, 74560 Overseas Highway. Hurricane Georges stripped away what used to be a lovely stretch of sand dunes covered with sea oats bordering this flat. The flat is still fishable, just not as pretty. You can park across the street from the Rodus Building, a square white multi-story building. This flat runs east and west for approximately 1/2 mile, good hard bottom and GREAT bone fishing. Do not park at the East end of the flat as that area is private property and was marked as such the last time I was there. This flat has no rest rooms or any facilities, just very good fishing. Don't pass it up.

Anne's Beach is a favorite wade fishing spot. A fabulous flat approximately 1/2 mile long with good hard sand bottom. Anne's beach is located just West of the Calusa Marina on the ocean-side. Anne's Beach has two entrances about 1/2 mile apart. There are rest rooms at the East end and hard, marked parking areas at the East and West ends. Each entrance is connected by a great boardwalk, which runs

right along the shoreline and has access walks going down to the water interspersed along the boardwalk making access to the flat very easy. There are also covered picnic areas along the boardwalk with tables and benches, just right for lunch. The bone fishing here is very good with an excellent chance of seeing a permit on the West end of the flat where it butts up to a deep-water channel. This is a public park and is very popular with bathers. Avoid the weekends and fish early or late. There is usually plenty of room for fishing particularly in the middle area of the flat.

Long Key State Park Recreational Area Long Key State Park is located just West of MM 68, on the ocean-side. This park has an entrance fee of $3.00 per car and is well worth it. The park features camping areas if you are a camper and you can pitch a tent or back your trailer right up to the beach. It also has shower facilities and rest rooms as well as picnic tables. A paved road runs the length of the park and makes access that much easier. I usually turn right after paying my entrance fee and drive about half way down the park to the West and park facing the ocean. A very short walk, 15-20 feet, and you are fishing. On a high tide watch the shoreline, as the bonefish will get right in on the beach and tail. I like to start wading in the middle of the flat and work my way slowly up to the East end in close to the shore line and if the light and the wind are right, move out a little and work back to the West. It just doesn't get any better than this. Excellent facilities and very good fishing.

On Vaca Key(downtown Marathon), you might try Sombrero Beach. It is public, has sand, it right next to a really good cut, might be worth a try in the early am or at dusk.

Veterans' Memorial Park This park is located at Mile Marker #40, right on the West end of the 7-Mile Bridge. Turn left and go down the hill where you will find a good

parking area with rest rooms and concrete pavilions which cover picnic tables and benches. A great flat with a nice hard sandy bottom. Excellent bone fishing with a

chance of a permit on a high tide near the edge of the channel. The family can sit and burn in comfort while you hunt world records...

Bahia Honda State Park Located on Bahia Honda Key between Mile Markers 36 and 37. This is very large Park, over 2 miles in length and offers some of the best wade

fishing available for bonefish. This flat borders a deep water channel on the East end where there is always the chance of coming upon a permit. It has a good hard bottom and a variety of types of bottom from clean white sand to mottled with some grass. Bahia Honda offers camping, picnic facilities as well as rest rooms and showers and even a concession stand if your tastes run to a hot lunch [hot dogs and hamburgers]. This facility requires an entrance fee of $3.00 and well worth it. It is very nice at the end of your fishing to be able to take a shower and change into some dry clothes. For up to date information you can call the park at 305-872-2353.

Just after the new Bahia Honda bridges, is Spanish Harbor Key(it's labeled West Sugarloaf Key). About 100ft after the bridge ON THE RIGHT is a small side road the

leads down to a parking area. Wonder out to the north and you will find a pit dug by the rail road for fill, it's 35ft deep but is quite shallow on the outsides. Try the area between the pit and the bridge. Also, on the south side of the road there are some shallows, but they drop off quick.. Current is also very fast and strong, up to 7mph. You don't want to be caught in it, kills 1 or 2 each year...

Further west are still more spots, going all the way to the beaches of Key West.

Caution::: Always be sure of where you are wading. Do not attempt to cross areas that are green or dark blue in color-these colors indicate deep water, or soft mud bottoms. I very seldom wade deeper than my knees. Be aware of what the tide is doing and do not get caught far off the beach with a fast rising tide or you may have to swim part of the way back. This is very difficult with an expencive fly rod & reel.

The following is a list of equipment you might consider for wade fishing expeditions:

FLY ROD - a fast action, 9ft., 8wt.

FLY REEL - GOOD DRAG & a floating line and 200 yds. of 20lb. test backing.

FLIES - a mix of Clousers, Deceiver's, Shrimp, Crab, in tan, brown, green, white,

sizes 4, 2, 1/0 BITE TIPPETS: Other than Bones and maybe Permit, our fish have teeth, I use 12"-15:" of 20lb up to 80lb mono for Tarpon, wire for cuda & shark.

WADING BOOTS or hard bottom dive booties - a must have piece of equipment for safe wading, always wear them no matter where you are wading

STRIPPING BASKET - optional

POLARIZED SUNGLASSES - another must have item

SMALL, FLAT fly box - carry different patterns and a few extra leaders

SUNSCREEN - another must have item, even in winter

WATER BOTTLE - put on your belt, it will save you a trip back to shore

LONG-BILLED HAT - make sure the underside of the bill is a dark color so it won't reflect the glare back into your eyes .

Long Sleeve shirts & pants if your light skinned.

Now all you need is a soft breeze, a cloudless sky.....

Good Luck