Members bheff Posted April 21, 2010 Members Posted April 21, 2010 Ive got a trip planned for Montauk May 10th 11th and 12th, then again in June. This will be my first "during the week" trip. Plan on experimenting some with the fly rod, and using the old standby....bait!!! Ill take any advice on flys that you guys want to give.
ozark trout fisher Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Ive got a trip planned for Montauk May 10th 11th and 12th, then again in June. This will be my first "during the week" trip. Plan on experimenting some with the fly rod, and using the old standby....bait!!! Ill take any advice on flys that you guys want to give. Try Woolly Buggers(#10 Olive is my favorite), Pheasant Tails (#14 or 16), Hare's Ears and Scuds (also 14s and 16s), and the smaller egg patterns, preferably beadhead and orange, peach, or tri-colored. Fish them under a small indicator, with the fly about 2x farther down from the indicator than the water you're fishing. Try the catch and release water just below the brood stock tanks. It's not exactly scenic up there, but it's about the best place I know of to learn the basics of fly fishing for trout. They can be hard to catch occasionally, but at least you can see your mistakes, and the fishing isn't a guessing game. Also, you don't really need to cast far at all. It is best if you stay low though, at least up on the C&R area. Use at least 9ft of tippet no larger than 6x, and have a good time. I apologize for the rambling response, and I hope it helped at least a little.
Members bheff Posted April 23, 2010 Author Members Posted April 23, 2010 good advise. Thanks, Ive been fly fishing for about a year, mostly on the Beaver lake tailwaters. Main point of the trip is get away from wives and kids! It should be interesting learning about the differences from where I usually fish and Montauk.
dave potts Posted April 23, 2010 Posted April 23, 2010 good advise. Thanks, Ive been fly fishing for about a year, mostly on the Beaver lake tailwaters. Main point of the trip is get away from wives and kids! It should be interesting learning about the differences from where I usually fish and Montauk. Wow, if you've got more than one wife and kids. I can see your need to get away for a while!!! Dave
Members bheff Posted April 23, 2010 Author Members Posted April 23, 2010 Ok, that is funny! Trust me the one wife I have and three children are enough. My brother in law will be joining me for some R&R as well.
3wt Posted April 26, 2010 Posted April 26, 2010 My best advice would be to leave the old standby at home. Force yourself to catch fish with the flyrod and eliminate the urge to run back to the truck, grab a wormslinger and heat for the holes. Montauk can be brutal to experiment with flyfishing. It can also be terrific, but my opinion is that tough days with a flyrod in hand force you to learn about fish, insects, water types etc. Forcing yourself to persevere is rewarding. I think you'll be pleased at the fly fishing only water. I'd start up at the spring and work down. I wouldn't plan on just parking in a spot for a couple hours. Fishing the type of stream you'll find in the fly area is an active process. Work the stream and experiment. I would also have some size 8 or 10 olive mohair leeches. Almost always good for several fish even when they're not "on."
ozark trout fisher Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 I agree with 3wt. If you really want to learn to fly fish, it's probably best to leave the spinning rod at home. Not for aesthetics mind you (I still like bait fishing for trout every once in a while), but just for practical purposes. If you're having a tough time with the fly rod (as everyone does there first few times out) if you're like me, you'll run back and grab the spinning rod within an hour or so if it's there. My first few trips with a fly rod, I took a spinning rod with me for insurance. Problem was, I always ended up doing 90% of fishing with the spinning rod and not learning anything about fly fishing. I didn't have enough self control, so I stopped bringing the spinning rod along.
Murdoc Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 They are very right. Leave it at home and learn and each fish you catch on the fly rod will be so much more thrilling. It is hard to do it but the rewards are great!! Montauk is a wonderful place!! Smiles are free http://rdpflyrods.com/
trizkid Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 iv used to do the same as well.....bring spin rod and fly rod....everytime end up using the spin rod 80% of the day. would try the fly rod with no success and switch back to what was comfortable the old spin rod and trout worm. the day i left the spinner at home and forced my self to catch fish and learn with the fly rod(a little more than a year and a half ago) was the day i'ev found my new and long lasting obsession with fly fishing. I now own two rod set ups and a whole mess of fly tying materials/tools....... Its a Great sport..gotta love it. TrIzzout
3wt Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 And don't be afraid to talk to other fly fisherman on the stream and ask questions. Most out there are pretty friendly and like to teach a trick or two. Just try to focus on the guys that actually look like they know what they're doing - I've seen a great majority of fly rodders that I wouldn't really qualify as fit to teach anything. Now if you head to taneycomo take no advice from anybody - Montauk guys usually have a baseline of knowing how not to slap the living crap out of the water, but Taney is like amateur hour, probably because of popularity and fishing for fish taht you couldn't scare off if you kick 'em.
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