Vicious Line

[drew03cmc]

Anyone else use Vicious line for bass? I am using the Panfish line on my UL and have not had a fish break off. I caught smallmouth, largemouth, wiper and innumerable sunfish on it. I was curious about the Ultimate line.

[TheBassAssasin]

Vicious Line is great! I had never heard of anyone I knew using it so I figured I'd spool it up and give it a try. Works great! Stands up well to abrasion. Casts well and it's fairly cheap. I'll countinue to buy it.

[Bittle]

My only gripe is the diameter of the smaller lines. It seems much thicker than the Berkeley floro that I live by.

[drew03cmc]

The diameter of the 4# Panfish line is the same as that of the Berkley 100% Fluorocarbon 4# test. I don't see your gripe. .008" is .008" right?

[RSBreth]

The diameter of the 4# Panfish line is the same as that of the Berkley 100% Fluorocarbon 4# test. I don't see your gripe. .008" is .008" right?

Both Vicious and Berkley must be understating the break strength of those lines. I use 3/8 Fireline and either 4X or 3X Orvis Mirage as a leader for Panfish/ultralight Trout, and the Mirage lists it's strength for the 4X (.007) at 7-pounds, and the 3X (.008) at 9.2-pounds. Maybe that's why you don't break off, it's actually 8-pound test?

They wouldn't be the first to understate the actual break strength.

I usually go by diameter more than rated strength anyway just because of that.

How does that Vicious handle on spinning gear? I haven't heard. Are you using it on a tiny tiny reel (like 1000 size) or 2500?

[Trav]

I might be stuck in my ways...but I am a mono-Trilene smooth cast guy when it comes to spin cast reels. And Keep in mind I Only use spin cast reels. So, I can't attest to the floro and braids when it comes to bait casters. I just know they are a hassle when it comes to spin cast rigs.

I have found that mono is much more abbrassive resistant than floro but I do have to change my line a lot more often than most guys who use floro. Hard pulling cranks and trolling stretches mono to a weak point. And when you are talking about test higher than eight pound the stretch fail seems to be more of an issue. I use a lot of cranks and it does hassle me. However, I will take respooling my line every other day over a line which might be compromised by a log or rock during an outing..

As far as viscious is concerned...never tried it... I am open minded to something new if it comes with some hands on knowledge...

I am all ears here!

Has anyone use the hybrid nylon/floro?

[RSBreth]

I've used both Yo-Zuri Hybrid ultrasoft and P=Line Fluoroclear, Both are pretty good on spinning reels.

When you say spin cast do you mean spinning, or push the button spin cast reels? You know, like this?Zebco

If it's the latter then every time you push the button to cast the spool moves forward and pinches the line. You have to change the line on spin cast's all the time. What a pain in the behind. That's one reason I went to PowerPro on my kid's spincast rigs - I don't have to change the line all the time.

[Trav]

I've used both Yo-Zuri Hybrid ultrasoft and P=Line Fluoroclear, Both are pretty good on spinning reels.

When you say spin cast do you mean spinning, or push the button spin cast reels? You know, like this?Zebco

If it's the latter then every time you push the button to cast the spool moves forward and pinches the line. You have to change the line on spin cast's all the time. What a pain in the behind. That's one reason I went to PowerPro on my kid's spincast rigs - I don't have to change the line all the time.

Thanks for the info. Might give the hybrid stuff a try and see if I like it.

Haha....haven't used a zebco since I was a wee snot head. I meant spinning...

[RSBreth]

Thanks for the info. Might give the hybrid stuff a try and see if I like it.

Haha....haven't used a zebco since I was a wee snot head. I meant spinning...

I thought you meant spinning, but I'm not knocking spin cast reels - they do have their place, especially for kids or anyone who isn't a regular fisherman. I have a couple of the Diawa trigger-spins for the kiddo and the Mrs. and they work really good on light Bass/Panfish/Trout. Really good for folks in cold weather - gloves make using regular spinning gear hard for some folks.

The most manageable hybrid on spinning gear I've used was the P-Line FluoroClear, but I don't really know if it's any upgrade from a nice mono like Tectan or Maxima. Since I spooled superlines on every spinning reel I own I'm not up with what new stuff is out there as a main line. I read about what Bass Pro's are using or who likes what on the forums, but that's not the same as first hand experience. I did spool up some XPS Fluoro a couple of years ago because I was using it as leader material and wanted to why KVD supposedly liked it (besides BPS being his sponsor), but after one trip stripped it off and put Stren Superbraid on that reel. Much more manageable.

[OzarkFishman]

Try out the hybrid line and you won't be sorry. I like P-Line Floroclear the best. It still has some stretch and it doesn't coil as badly as mono. The flourocarbon coating can't hurt either.

Since we are talking about spincasts here ... they can catch big fish. My biggest bass ever was on a spincast. I have since turned that reel into a kite flying contraption and it works flawlessly.

Tightlines,

OzarkFishman