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My brother and I are getting into froggin, we floated the Meramec for them between the palisades and allenton, with some success but the float is too long, low, and slow. Brother went to the Catawissa pits and said the place is cleaned out, so we're looking for some place to go without having to do a full float. All we've got is a canoe.

Not so much wanting people's secret spot as just some suggestions on alternate accesses or maybe spots we haven't thought of hitting that are fairly close to St. Louis, Jefferson or Franklin counties.

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