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Hi Guys,

I'm a new member but a long time fan!! really enjoyed everyone's abundant knowledge and kind guidance!!

I'm heading out to montauk next weekend and i understand the water is going to be relatitively high ( hasn't happened in a couple of years). What flies do you guys recomend this time of the year and what do you recomend for deep fast water. I generally stick with olive wollies and tan fresh water shrimp( 16), San Juan alway produeced for me as well. Any comments? Thanx!!

P.S. last time i went to opening day was 1999, has it changed much? How about the first weekend?

Happy Fishing!!

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First of all, you're probably crazy to go for openning weekend...I've never gone, have no interest. Judging by the normal summertime traffic since '99, there will be more people then you can stand.

Now I agree with the mohairs, and heavy woolies. But, if the water is murky (which can happen after a big rain for a few days) experience says that spin fishing with white maribou jigs can kill (which is suprising, since I first figured game-off during these conditions). You can probalby adapt this theory to some heavy light colored streamers.

That all being said - my guess is for openning day you should be able to throw anything at the hungry hordes and get your limit faster than you can tie on a new fly.

Good luck with the crowds.

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What about upper current down stream from the park. I went there a lot last year, never too crowded, maybe that's the way to go. Alway had pretty good luck on Elk Hair Caddis (14) and a Fresh Water Shrimp as dropper. I'm thinking to try a Woollie and a Copper John or Zebra midge for a dropper; are there much dry hatch action this time the year? What type of knots do you use for a dropper? Any diagrams?

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I usually use an improved clinch knot on the dropper. Tippet from the bend of the hook on the top fly. I believe there's a post somewhere in tip and tricks on the forum about hopper dropper knots and differing techniques.

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Now you're speaking my language.

I would expect the wooly bugger to be a big hit. Almost always good action on mohairs down there.

I would always have a variety of elkhair caddis on the current, I go with size 16...I don't think the larger stuff does as well...my own opinion.

I'm really not that sure about dry hatches. I usually catch part of the trico hatches during the summer, but it's likely too early for that. Maybe BWO's...Sam Potter could help. His site is www.tightline.biz and he's the mod for this section of the forum (also the supreme guru and ultimate authority on the upper current as far as I am concerned)

But with high water I would expect to stay deep. I would also expect various caddis pupa/larva to be rolling around under the surface this time of year.

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Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I'll probably stick with deep sinking flies myself, if the water is too fast maybe I'll ty on a splitshot . Do you guys use putty weight or splitshots? I prefer putty myself. also I heard Elkhair Caddis works well this time of the year on upper Current on sunny days, and drifting soft hackles. I'll probably tie a dropper on that too...

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Love the putty, but when it's really cold you have to warm the stuff up to get it to mold...still much better than shot.

I hear good things about soft hackles, usually fishing them with more of a wet fly swing than just drifting. I haven't tried it much, but again sam could shed some light, on his fishing reports he's talked about soft hackles being effective.

I usually try to start with mohair leaches, and when I have caught a few fish to satisfy the "don't get skunked" desire, I start trying other things, like various caddis flies, trying to find rising fish during a hatch. The nice thing is that many tactics work on the current, but if you really have a tough time getting anything to work you can always tie on a leach or wooly and have some fun.

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this one works every time.... heres there recipe

hook: size 10 egg hook

thread: yellow any size

body: large sweet corn one or two kernels

instructions... tie the corn to the hook and there ya go :D.. be sure to stop any wardens and as them if your craftsmanship is good enough to fish the river.. :) seems like it would catch fish to me :blink:

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