MrDucky Posted March 9, 2007 Posted March 9, 2007 Mrs Ducky and I were at Roaring River Saturday during opening weekend and she say's , I need to have Leonard teach me how to strip There's nothing more romantic then hearing your wife say she needs another man to teach her to strip Here line . Anyways yesterday fishing at Roaring River i would cast out a bit and then let slack line out of the reel and then slowly bring in line until i had a pile of line at my feet . Is this the proper way ? It did make it easier to cast and i was even getting some distance . Please help in answering my question. I dont want Tami taking lessons from the slow stripping mink guy A.K.A. Leonard Yikes!!! I Hate that warning horn
John Berry Posted March 9, 2007 Posted March 9, 2007 I feel your pain. I suggest three things to improve ypur stripping. I have noted that short stripps are better than long ones. Lets say a couple of inches rather than thirty. Also vary the speed. Sometimes strip wait a minute then strip again slowly working the line in. Other times strip quickly. The fish will tell you what they prefer on that day. Finally keep your rod tip low. Maybe an inch off the water. This will put a straight line between you and the fly and help in detecting strikes. John Berry OAF CONTRIBUTOR Fly Fishing For Trout (870)435-2169 http://www.berrybrothersguides.com berrybrothers@infodash.com
Terry Beeson Posted March 9, 2007 Posted March 9, 2007 Stripping is an art form and to do it properly, you have to have those leather pants, cop uniform, or fireman's uniform with the velcro closures in the back... OH... and of course you have to have the right music! And JOCKEYS will NEVER do! You MUST have boxers with a thong under them... You know... the thong with the elephant's face on the front... You can find them at www.maleexoticdancers...... OK... OK.... OK.... On a more serious note... Stripping line is a matter of several factors. The fly, the fish, the current, and is a combination of speed, length, timing, and rod action. The FLY rod... Think about the fly at the end of your tippet and what you want it to do. Do you want it to dance across the bottom? Do you want it just to swim in a natural form? What's the current like? How do the fish react to the way you aare stipping now? Do they whistle, cheer, and wave dollar bills at you or do they just sit there and nurse their margaritas? What you are doing is what most of us do... Cast, get a little slack in the line from the stripping guide to the reel, and then start the strip. The line winds up at your feet or in the water in front of you if you are wading. Some guys use a stripping basket, but that's usually when you are casting LONG distance such as saltwater or spey casting. Now... the METHOD of stripping is what is important. Again... short quick strips, long slow strips, darts, short slow, pause, long quick... and in some cases you can "jig" a fly using the strip along with rod tip movement. Joe Humphrey has a strip method that keeps the fly moving slow constantly during the strip. Somehow he catches line with his index finger, pulls down by rotating his wrist, and at the end catches the next section of line with his pinky, pulls down rotating his wrist in the opposite way, and repeat... VERY effective strip and he does it super slow and can "kick it up a notch" if needed. But I can tell you, it takes lots of practice to get any good at it... I've tried... Lefty Kreh had an article in a fly fishing magazine recently talking about slow stripping and his trick was to start with your left hand at the rod and move your hand all the way back very slowly until your arm was stretched out behind you. This gave him a constant strip of about 4 feet depending on the length of your arm I guess. Many of us tend to stop our strip when our hand reaches our hip or side and Lefty's remark was to "keep stripping" until you reached a full strip potential. Makes sense to me... Now... think about sculpins. What happens when you "surprise" a sculpin. Does he "swim away" taking his time? Nope... He darts like a bottle rocket for a short distance. This is their natural response and can be VERY effective when fishing sculpins. You might want to try a fast/quick "dart" strip of a few feet... pause.. slow... dart... Then again, it all depends on what the fish want and how they want it... Just like any fishing... Personally, my wife likes a really fast strip followed by a mundane "that was great honey... you rock... goodnight..." TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Members armyflyfisher Posted March 9, 2007 Members Posted March 9, 2007 ".......Stripping is an art form and to do it properly, you have to have those leather pants, cop uniform, or fireman's uniform with the velcro closures in the back." You forgot the soldier's uniform. VERY effective if combined with the "Lefty Strip!" My problem with stripping (when chasing dinks) is that if there is a strong current and I am wading, the line that's been stripped in will stream out with the current, and it will take a few (or more) false casts to get that line back into play so to speak. I guess the fix to that is to just false cast away or get a stripping basket. I like to play with stripping techniques....trying anything until I find what works. Last Fall, I played with slinging plastic worms with my 5wt for Large Mouth Bass on a lake on FT Leonard Wood. I was using 3 inch long sections of plastic Mr. Twister worms and bouncing them off the bottom combined with ultra-slow strips - just enough to get the tail of the worm to undulate (that's a good stripping term isn't it Terry?). It was very effective and watching the local bait casters see me catching LMB's on a fly rod was worth it! David
Terry Beeson Posted March 9, 2007 Posted March 9, 2007 You forgot the soldier's uniform. VERY effective if combined with the "Lefty Strip!"... Well, there's also the indian chief uniform... but it's hard to find a loin cloth that will drape down below my knees... Hey David... You need to try a Gulley Worm concocted by John Gulley down around Norfork tailwaters. Click here to view the Gulley Worm on Orvis' website.... As for the false casting, yes, that sometimes has to happen. Just another reason to practice your false cast... Undulate... "to move with a sinuous or wavelike motion; display a smooth rising-and-falling or side-to-side alternation of movement. To bend with successive curves in alternate directions." MAYbe 25 years ago... Of course nowdays, if you get all these extra pounds started moving, undulating just happens... It's a physics experiment... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Members armyflyfisher Posted March 9, 2007 Members Posted March 9, 2007 Here's another worm pattern that I want to try this Spring.... http://www.jackgartside.com/step_wiggle_worm.htm Terry...."but it's hard to find a loin cloth that will drape down below my knees".......Please....that's almost too much info!!! David
MrsDucky Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 So, basically, try something, and if it doesn't work, try something else? I can do that! I could watch the fish, and see them watching my hhok, and then turning around and going the other way. I figured I was doing something wrong with the line, but maybe they just caught sight of me, or they just didn't want that color. Fish are so picky! I was using a rabbit streamer, and they would watch and follow, but not bite. I tried a constant (or near constant) slow strip, and I tried to make it look more like Terry described the sculpin, but maybe that was not what the fish wanted. (I was nice and left out a bunch of comments I wanted to make...and I had to think carefully about how to word my comments! But still...Terry seems to know an awful lot about this stripping! And how the audience responds... Hmmmmmmm...does anyone see Terry and Leonard at the same time??? Or better yet, do you always see them at the same time??? And do their wives know about this hobby???) I can bring home the trout...fry it up in a pan...and never let you forget I caught it! 'Cause I'm a woman!
Randall Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 fish follow streamers and lures without striking all the time. you're probably not doing anything wrong, but when you see a fish following, try to keep about the same pattern, then as the fish gets closer, strip fast in a quick darting motion... whatever you do, don't slow it down. i may be waaaaay off, but i think it triggers the predator instinct. the scared action works for me when i fish the mickey finn, daces, and other minnow looking patterns. Cute animals taste better.
Danoinark Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 John here's a little tip on how not to have all that line coiled around your feet when you strip line in. Its called the hand twist. As you strip the line back to you just twist it back and forth around your hand. When you are ready to cast again just loosen the coil and shoot the line. Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Terry Beeson Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 ...And do their wives know about this hobby???)... Hey... as long as we share all those dollar bills with them, they don't seem to want to know how we got them.... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
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