Danoinark Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I have been experimenting lately with a different stripping pole. I typically use an inexpensive 8/9 rod, reel, and spooled with a 7wt line when fising at night. It has worked great but half way through the evening I am really fatigued from throwing and stripping. There may be other variables like a too heavy vest and bad casting too. So I have decided to bring out a very seldom used old generation St. Croix Pro Graphite in 6 wt using the 6wt line. I tried casting the 7 wt line on this model and it just doesn't load it properly. I like the feel of this combination and the rod seems to have enough in the butt section to turn a big fish if need be. I feel it should cast a weighted sculpin in say size 6 and above if I am using a short section of straight mono from the fly line. Now the questions. Do you feel this is enough rod? What combo do you use? Do you match the line wt to the rod for night time fishing? Just musings on a Saturday night! Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Rusty Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I have been experimenting lately with a different stripping pole. I typically use an inexpensive 8/9 rod, reel, and spooled with a 7wt line when fising at night. It has worked great but half way through the evening I am really fatigued from throwing and stripping. There may be other variables like a too heavy vest and bad casting too. So I have decided to bring out a very seldom used old generation St. Croix Pro Graphite in 6 wt using the 6wt line. I tried casting the 7 wt line on this model and it just doesn't load it properly. I like the feel of this combination and the rod seems to have enough in the butt section to turn a big fish if need be. I feel it should cast a weighted sculpin in say size 6 and above if I am using a short section of straight mono from the fly line. Now the questions. Do you feel this is enough rod? What combo do you use? Do you match the line wt to the rod for night time fishing? Just musings on a Saturday night! Dano With what little experience I have, it looks like you were under lined on your first setup. Not enough line weight to load the rod, in turn it was causing you to over work your casting. Plus, your not used to throwing that heavy of a setup, Dan. Try using the 7 wt. line you used on the 8/9 wt. on your 6 wt. rod. Personally, I use a 7 wt. fast action rod lined with Rio WF7F "The Clouser". Then I use 2.5 - 3 ft. butt section of 17 lb. mono then a 3 ft. section of 8 lb. mono tippet. You are also using more senses at night than you would during the day. I would describe it as driving 8 hrs in a blizzard. You sit up straighter and strain a lot more than normal.
Danoinark Posted July 22, 2007 Author Posted July 22, 2007 All good information Rusty. I did try the 7 wt line on the 6 wt and it just didn't seem to load it right. The 6 wt line does well on the St. Croix. I have looked at the clouser line by Rio. Doesn't it have a heavier belly thereby allowing you to throw weighted streamers longer distances? I really need a good casting lesson. The more I analyze my cast the more I recognize poor technique. I sometimes overwork the rod not allowing it to work for me. My bad style I attribute to my dad years and years ago, rest his soul, when what we had were cheap bamboo, heavy glass and level lines in the hands of a little boy who gave up until later in life Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Zach Bearden Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Dano, I overweighted my 8 wt with a clouser line (love it) and I throw some of those 9 inch flies for striper down here... I get fatigued after about 4 hours of it.. but im trowing 60-80 foot with it... I figure you could underweight it and be good with a big ol sculpin... "Its clearly Bree time baby!" Member: 2009 U.S. Youth Fly-Fishing Team. Competed Czech Republic. 7th Place Team Member: 2010 U.S. Youth Fly-Fishing Team. Competed Slovakia. 4th Place Team Member: 2010 U.S. Youth Fly-Fishing Team. Competed The America Cup. 4th Place Team
Members Steve Dally Posted July 24, 2007 Members Posted July 24, 2007 OK Dano, you could load it up with a 120' Rio Outbound, integrated shooting head line. A session or two on how to cast these and you will throw further than ever before. But it might be a tad much line for that rod, which is pretty slow (not bad but slow) Ive been using my Outbound 6wt floater for white bass lake fishing, tossing a size 2/0 Bob Banger saltwater popper 80'. In my hands a slightly stiffer rod is better Im using a TiCR. In the right hands 120' is achievable off the grass with no fly, I kid you not. These lines add 10' to 20' to most casts. The technique is slightly different but these style of lines are really are a shooting head, so limited back casts and the ability to shoot are their forte. Available in floating and sinking intermediate and 330gr 6-7-8 in the store. I have some personal lines for demo if anyone wants a lesson on dealing with these unique lONNNGGGG casting lines. Funnily enough I was thinking these were great lake lines, but my guess is these could be very cool nightime lines for Taney and Bull _ simply because you don't have to do a lot of backcasts-hauling to cast goodly distances. They are made for covering water and shooting heads etc come from the East Coast saltwater scene and refined in casting comps. don't use them at Rebar tho, you'll be in the trees on the other side _ Im not kidding. Cheers Steve Sign Up For The Mountain River Journal - our free weekly e-magazine/fishing report Remodelled Mountain River Fly Shop Web Store
Danoinark Posted July 24, 2007 Author Posted July 24, 2007 But Stevo, I have a funny feeling it would take more than 2 sessions... I do need to get by an see you soon though..Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Members Steve Dally Posted July 24, 2007 Members Posted July 24, 2007 maybe to throw 120' but this line is good however your casting anyway if someone wants to rock along we can play with them and then they can report too cheers steve Sign Up For The Mountain River Journal - our free weekly e-magazine/fishing report Remodelled Mountain River Fly Shop Web Store
Members Steve Dally Posted July 24, 2007 Members Posted July 24, 2007 Ease up those night-time tangles with your running line. This is the stripping basket the Californian saltwater flyfishing underground has been using _ now available across the country The Stan Pleskunas Hip Shooter. No more tangles, no more rocks nice and easy. If anyone wants one $49.95 _ Ive bought mine Sign Up For The Mountain River Journal - our free weekly e-magazine/fishing report Remodelled Mountain River Fly Shop Web Store
Zach Bearden Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Steve will you buy me one for an early b-day gift? O.o lol jk "Its clearly Bree time baby!" Member: 2009 U.S. Youth Fly-Fishing Team. Competed Czech Republic. 7th Place Team Member: 2010 U.S. Youth Fly-Fishing Team. Competed Slovakia. 4th Place Team Member: 2010 U.S. Youth Fly-Fishing Team. Competed The America Cup. 4th Place Team
Members Steve Dally Posted July 25, 2007 Members Posted July 25, 2007 lol cheques in the mail lol Sign Up For The Mountain River Journal - our free weekly e-magazine/fishing report Remodelled Mountain River Fly Shop Web Store
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