Flies?

[trouthunter777]

what are some simple flies to tie that are affective.. im 15 and iv been tieing flys for only about a year or two.

also i must add is it worth going down current river "out of the state park" and look for the lunkers?

going down october 9-12

[ekl-stl]

There are a lot of patterns that work in the park, you just have to find different types of water to use them... Any egg pattern works, san juan worms, cracklebacks, wooly buggers.. scuds are very effective..

[3wt]

Mohair Leech, size 10 olive. Pretty easy to tie, usually the only fly you really need, but I'm not a one fly kind of guy - Two materials maribout and leech yarn, plus lead wire. It takes time to get used to tying with maribou, but try wetting it a little, and you'll get the hang of it.

San Juans are a good idea - one material, so also a cheap fly. Tie alot, they fall apart easily.

Crackle backs are a great way to get into dry fly tying, but you need some more expensive hackle, which when I was 15 was just not in the cards - 2 or 3 materials, depending on whether you buy into the "it needs a back rib" idea.

Scuds are pretty easy and fun to tie, but I personally don't ever catch fish with them - usually 3 materials, and lead.

Try the zebra midges, they're just black thread, a bead head and a wire rib. Some guys (aka brownieman) swear by them.

If you need advice on how to fish these flies, ask around here. I wish I had this type of help when I was 15 and learning...instead I just got skunked an awful lot.

[flyfishmaster]

Trouthunter77,

If you are looking for a "simple, cheap, quick" fly to make and works for at least 10+ fish a day in the park and better in the Current River (plus all the Colorado rivers), here it is.

It is a Buckskin.

You can make them from a lot of different material but here is how I make them:

Hook: Straight eye size 18 - 24

Body: White thick sewing thread (get it from Wal-mart for $1.18 for 150 yards)

Head: Black dubbing

Thread: Black 6/0

How to tie it:

•Wrap your hook with a base of black thread.

•Next, take your white tread and start it just a little down from the hook's eye. Use the black tread to attach it on.

•Wrap the white thread towards the back of the hook, stopping at the bend.

•Before wrapping it back to the eye, "spin" your bobbin clockwise for about 3 seconds (this makes an awesome segmented body). Now proceed to wrap the white thread towards the eye. Stop just before the eye so the head can be made.

•Use the black tread to tie off the white thread, and cut the white thread.

•Now the head, use just a tiny bit of black dubbing and wrap it around your thread. Then wrap the thread/dubbing on the hook to make the head.

•Finish with a whip finish.

FYI: size 20 and 22 are the best producers for me. The fish hammer them during the Trico hatches.

[Greg]

I'll second the olive or green mohair leach in size 8, 10, or 12. Very effective and very easy to tie.

I'll also second scuds and zebra midges. Both are fairly easy to tie and effective.

Greg

[trouthunter777]

thnks for the help but i would still like to have ur opinions on is it worth going out of the state park to search for some big fish... were actaly giong AFTER the fishing derby tht weekend .. so monday and tuesday. would tht mean bigger fish in the park? or would they be fished out fast?

[3wt]

Wouldn't bet the farm on having any big guys left in the water after a derby. They tend to let a few huge fish go for the derby, and then an ungodly ton of normal (or smaller than normal) stockers. Still, most derby guys won't focus on riffles or difficult to fish areas, so there will still be some fun fish to catch.

[flyfishmaster]

trouthunter777,

It is hard to know what size of fish the park will have. Of course they will throw in some lunkers and again who knows how many will be caught.

I do know the Current does hold some nice fish. I have fished the Current 4 time this year and each time (but one) I have land at least 2 fish 20+". So if you are looking for bigger fish, try the river.

[3wt]

flyfishmaster: So your buckskin is just an unwheighted white thread body (thin?, thick?, tapered?) segmented with a small black dubbing head? I'm intrigued. Do you fish this like a wet fly or nymph? If you have pictures please post.

trouthunter: Be advised that if you are new to the upper current (outside the park) that you may have trouble finding those big fish...or any at all. It's a different game than in the park. It's very cool, and my favorite place to fish, but you may end up skunked your first few times out. Bring some of those mohairs with you, they'll usually bring a few fish on a tough day on the current. Or hook up with somebody that knows the area. Or get a guide. See www.tightline.biz for that. I've never used him, but check out the pictures at least...I don't catch those kind of fish.

[Kayser]

TH77- I know the boat that you're in. I'm 18, and I've only been fly-fishing for about 5 years. Kind of tough and frustrating starting out when the fish don't bite.

Try pheasant tails and hare's ears (beaded and regular), zebra midges, and scuds. Wooly buggers or mohair's in black and olive are a must. White or tan also. Remember to keep the nymphs close to the bottom.

Dries don't produce nearly as many fish, but are fun to use. Elk hair caddis, adams, and stimulators might be considered, but aren't necessary to catch fish.

If you are just starting out, I would suggest staying in the park. Yes, there are some bigger fish outside, but the river is harder to fish. I have had 100+ fish days in the park before, and I got skunked outside the park over the summer. Just hone your skills in the park for a while, and maybe move outside if it gets too easy.

Rob