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Outside Bend

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  1. I think you may be able to get one through the Smallmouth Alliance or Ozark Fly Fishers. You may also contact your regional MDC office to see if they have some or know where you can get one.
  2. You may also want to look and see if the state is interested...
  3. The survey is geared towards stream smallmouth management.
  4. I think I've got these right... 1.) Jeff Hearns': 2.) Leonard's: 3.) Cricket's Canned Corn Jig: 4.) Jeremy Hunt's: 5.) Gavin's: 6.) Zach Bearden's: 7.) Njardar's: 8.) DaddyO's: 9.) Outside Bend's: 10.) Flytyer57's: 11.) TroutCommander's- It's the little pheasant tail/copper job you guys should've had. Mine blew off the kitchen table, so no photo as of right now. I'm sure I'll find them, probably in the heel of my foot while I eat dinner As liable as those things are to getting lost, they must have some seriously bad juju! I also tried to give everyone some of the extras, some bonus, and a few from my box to make up for dragging my feet on this one. There's a lot of good stuff in there, and I'm glad to see how it turned out.
  5. FT- I'll try and get pictures up of all the flies here shortly.
  6. It's always fun watching how habitats change and where fish go as that river moves up and down. Thanks for sharing.
  7. Unfortunately it's not that simple. The Current can have big Trico falls, some of the smaller creeks have decent Isonychia hatches, and there's lots of other, less predictable mayflies, stoneflies, and caddis which hatch on Missouri trout streams throughout the season. Add to that ants, beetles, and other terrestrials, and summer fishing on top CAN be pretty good. But for the most part, if I'm fishing for trout, I'm fishing subsurface. It really depends on a lot of factors- the stream, the flow and water temperature, angling pressure, etc. Your best bet is to simply let the fish tell you what to do- watch rises and riseforms to determine what they're eating and if it's on top or subsurface, or watch for subsurface flashes or mouth openings to figure out if they're picking stuff from the bottom or elsewhere in the water column. Part of the fun is figuring the puzzle out yourself. There's a number of good resources out there. If you haven't picked it up already, check out Chuck Tryon's "Fly-Fishing For Trout in Missouri." It's available in most flyshops, and you can probably find some used copies on Amazon for quite cheap. Not sure where you're from, but lots of areas have Federation of Fly-Fishers and/or Trout Unlimited chapters, which are great for networking with other anglers and can greatly help reduce the learning curve.
  8. All- Thanks for playing, the flies are on their way out, you should be seeing them in your mailboxes the next few days. I kept one set in case someone's is/are lost in the mail, distributed some of the excess flies randomly, and sent a spare set to a Iraqi veteran who's just taken up fly-fishing. Figured it was as good a cause as any. Thanks again for your participation, and for your patience. Tom.
  9. Ditching by any other name...
  10. Cerise works best for stockers. Dark roe works best for streambreds.
  11. Excellent. I went down two weekends ago and managed one decent brown while the water was up, but there was practically nothing going on up top. Been waiting for the caddis to get crankin'...
  12. Good to hear, I've been down to the Current a couple times this season and only seen a few caddis buzzing around. Did you do any good?
  13. Sorry Tim, what I was trying to get at is... If GM salmon escaped and mated with wild stocks, and transferred these patented genes into streambred offspring...could Aquabounty then claim ownership of those wild fish with modified genes? And if a commercial fisherman was unknowingly netting and selling GM salmon which had escaped or interbred with wild stocks, would they be violating any patent laws?
  14. Does anyone know if these GM salmon would be patented? I'm curious what the ramifications of patented genes showing up in "wild" fish would be...
  15. You say the Feds can't take care of the property they already own, it bothers you when they take measures to take care of their property by restricting ATVs? You can't have it both ways. ONSR isn't saying one thing and then doing another. Those areas are still publicly accessible- just not with an ATV, and for good reason.
  16. But the river and adjoining property is managed through public easements. There's no comparing that arrangement and streams like the Gasconade, Current, Black etc- where a more free-market approach has been taken. All you have to do is look at the list of 303 (d) streams in the state to show that private industry hasn't been kind to our public waterways, and that those waterways receiving protection are streams which are doing well. MDC has the luxury of a sales tax. Many state agencies don't. Many states in the northeast and mid-Atlantic are looking at selling public lands to gas fracking developers, as are states in the west, in order to augment their budgets. The property is being bought to provide public access. That's the point. The Feds aren't going to prevent people from hunting and fishing on property they bought so people have a place to hunt and fish. You're confusing multiple use with closing public access. They may restrict how you can get there (ATVs, horses, etc.) But you can still use the area. That's not the case with private property.
  17. They also own some of the most pristine property in this country- Scenic Riverways, national parks, national forests, national seashores, roadless/wilderness areas, etc. What's your point? You know many state budgets which are flush enough with cash to be buying, protecting, and maintaining new public lands? The fact that many states are selling off public land to fund their budgets should be pretty telling. The several states aren't in a position to be doing this.
  18. Not only that, but the expanded EPA definitions expands protection to intermittent streams and wetlands- and any plumber can tell you $@! runs downhill. Not only do these ecosytsems provide habitat for many organisms that occur nowhere else in the state, they collect water for as well as protect our downstream fisheries (& property, etc). Many of the Ozark's fisheries depend on baseflows provided by springs & seeps- and much of that water is derived from intermittent and losing streams- streams that won't receive any protection if this sort of legislation is passed. Not to mention all the benefits to waterways (& people) of intact riparian corridors, the water quality benefits of wetlands, etc... An angler arguing against public fishing accesses just strikes me as odd. How would you rather the land be "taken care of?" CAFO? Private dude-ranch which excludes the public from fishing? Mineral developments?
  19. Shame the weather wasn't nicer for you, but still a great trip! I've been looking hard at heading down that way sometime this season.
  20. You could really push your luck and suggest a trip to the eastside afterwards
  21. I dunno, perhaps I misinterpreted the initial post, but it came across as a bit callous to me. If there were an earthquake/tsunami in Thailand, the reduced supply and increased cost of #16 Parachute Adams isn't going to be a chief concern to me. There are bigger issues to worry about. Just sayin'.
  22. X2...there's a lot more for folks to be worrying about than the world supply and price of jerkbaits.
  23. The process used to created triploid fish is something like 97% or 98%, which is pretty good, unless you're producing hundreds of thousands of fish, in which case you're producing thousands of fertile fish, too. And it's not all about interbreeding- hatchery fish are more aggressive, and these GM salmon are engineered to grow rapidly and attain a very large size. Salmon runs have been decimated by a number of factors- dewatering, logging, changes in the riparian corridor, oceanic conditions, commercial harvest, hatcheries- and many of the runs now number in the hundreds. Escaped GM salmon- competing with natives, evicting them from preferred lies, munching on smolts- they could be the nail in the coffin for many of our fisheries. And it's not about feeding the masses- no one's starving because they're not getting enough salmon in their diet. It's about producing a high-value commodity faster and more cheaply, to increased the bottom line of a few corporate entities at the expense of the environment as a whole and the public's fisheries specifically. This one's a no-brainer. Petition signed.
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