Let me reiterate Phil did not shut down that thread, I did. I started it and when the threat of the budget issue was over for the time being I got rid of it as the purpose was only as an informational piece. I have known Phil along time, been an admin on this board for years, and still don't know how he votes or what party he leans, nor do I care. I doubt from any posts that I have made is it clear as to my political leaning. I would be happy to fish with anyone here and call them my friend despite how they feel about single issues. I have friends on the left, right and in the center and we are still friends and will remain so.