Sam, I agree with you re: Fireline, that's why Power Pro has been strung to my baitcaster and spinners, the problem with the Pro is that it doesnt sink much plus it is pretty visible, tried some crystal Fireline for ice fisin only, will string some on and see what happens, I don't like the stretch of mono and thought flouro had less stretch but since I don't fish these lines pretty unclear. Thanks for the input in lines and again guys, I'll take any advice. Bought a new boat for this trip, told my wife we need a bigger boat to fish such a big area, if we don't catch fish I'm pretty much in the dog house!