Pruett I can see that. Last time I trolled for walleye I watched a few guys muskie fishing from a ways away and not 30 minutes later I trolled the flat were they once were and I saw a nice one come up within casting distance but I had all lines 150ft behind the boat. What do you all think the primary food is for them. Shad, bluegill, small carp? I don't want to get into the crappie debate. I have caught lots of 9inch crappie at fellows and a few that went 14, 15 inch. Thanks