Jeremy Hunt

I do catch "GROUT" on them. Especially right at the Bull Shoal's dam. I love fishing this pattern in high water tied on a size 10. I really do good on this in two units. I just started tying these for Phil's shop and we will see if they have a great response with our local trout. I am sure they will, but I don't know if anybody really fishing these pattern on our local waters all the time because we don't have any local fly shop's carrinng this pattern so it make's me wonder if any locals are tying or fishing this pattern on Taney. I really just started fishing this pattern when I went to stay at Rim Shoals for a few months. I did really good with this pattern on both tail waters in Arkansas. Thanx "Fox for introducing this pattern to us. So now that I have moved back to Taney, I am excited to figure out if this really works good on high water here to. If anybody has any advice on fishing this pattern at Taneycomo effectivelty please let us know.

It's all fun and if you keep doing it, you will be "trout bum" like me. Be careful because it happen's to the best of us. JH

Hey Tippet Patterns.. um..... I can think of two that I use all the time during the shad kills on our river systems. I think that it doesn't really matter so much on the patterns as long as there white and you understand how to fish them. There is two ways that the trout will take shad, on top or just drifting along with any of the water columns in the current. You will do really good on shad patterns that have alot of marabou or artic fox for the main material. This allows the fly to have a ungulating, breathing effect that will trigger some nice strikes. Whatever you do, try not to tie these flies with the harder materials. Think soft when you tie shad patterns. Most things are soft to a fishes mouth. I don't have a pick to show you but I can kind of tell you how to tie the patterns. If you want the fly to sink. Depending on the current and speed, will defiantly be the key on how the fly should look in the water. A indicator works real well to also control the depth you want to be fishing. One thing you don't want is the fly to have so much weight that when it sinks, it sinks slow and not like a rocket. To much weight will change the way the fly looks like in the water.You want it to have a dying effect to the fly. So tie in marabou or artic fox at the bend of the hook. After you tie in the tail, tie in some foam. I don't know if you have any foam handy but if you don't most of your local shops can order you some. Wapsi carries this new foam in all kinds of colors.I like to use white, gray, and black. The size of the foam I like to use is 2mm. Cut a long square piece depending on how long the shank is and tie it in at the bend of the hook to. You will have a lip hanging out on both ends of the fly. This fly resembles the" Gertside Gurgler." The body is some flashy chenille that again Wapsi just came out with last year called "HOLOGRAPHIC CHENILLE". It comes in two colors gold, and silver. I only use the silver. It's in two sizes so you can tie big ones and small ones. Tie in the chenille and wind it foward allthe way up to the eye and then fold the foam over and tie that at the eye. Tie the fly off and cut your foam off a to create a lip and your ready. It's just like a wooly bugger but you have some foam on the top. The fly is easy to tie but very effective on high water. There is a newer hook that I found to have a good hook set in high water and it has a hook point that is like the 2499 sp hook. It's called a Tiemco 777sp which stands for super piont. You will love this hook. It's a bigger gap which you need in high water. you will rarely ever lose a fish on this hook. Now the other one is just as easy but I have found this fly to work better in slower running water. Also on sunny day's. I think the key to this fly is the "UV" that we mix in the dubbing we use for the body. The fly cosist of two materials. Dubing and marabou. Let me tell you a story about why I came up with mixing "UV" in dubbing's for my flies. About four years ago when eveyone were fishing normal sud and sowbug patterns with nothing but dubbing. We started throwing the flashabou dubbing in "UV" ultra violet in a blender with some sow scud dubbing.Not alot just enough to give it that attractor look to the fish.On sunny day's we were catcing more than we did on the regular paterns that we fished.It was something new and new to the fish too. One thing to keep in mind about the "UV' is it doesn't work well without sunlight. So about three years ago I was fishing below Bull Shoal's dam and I was fishing with Gabe Cross in his boat. Well the first day I tied up this fly I was using white without any flash in the pattern. I did ok but something told me to go home and tie these up with some flash in the dubbing like I did with the scud patterns. I was using the slf standard dubbing in white for the body and marabou for the wing and tail. The only thing I did different is put that "UV" in the slf dubbing.And that seem to be the key to catching more fish. Especially on sunnier day's.I use this fly every year and it is one of my best producer for catching fish on the shad kill when we do have them. Not to say that you can use this pattern all yearr to catch trout on. The only thing you would do different to tie this fly is you stack the marabou on top of the hook shank like you would tying in a wing right behing the eye of the hook . So if you pictured the fly, the wing would go past the whole shank of the fly but tied in right behing the eye at the front of the fly. You will do this several times up the fly. Fisrt thing, get a normal streamer hook down eye. I like to tie these in 6, or 8. Start with tying in marabou or artic fox tail. Then once you do that get a little bit of dubbing and build a little body in front of the tail. What your trying to do is hide your wraps you did when you tied in your first tail. Now repeat that same process all the way up the fly to you get to the eye and tie it off. I hope this will give you some ideas on how to tie and fish them.I One thing you should notice about both the flies is that they are simple to tie and farely easy to tie. The only thing that will hurt your chances at catching bigger fish is being ina boat. You do have a advantage of catching more fish. Also Davy Wotton came out with a real fancy shad pattern. As a tyer it will challenge you a little bit on the vise, but it is a great looking pattern. I don't do so well with it for trout. I do for bass, white bass, and some hybrids in lakes. I have also caught snook and tarpon on it. Let me go find a link and I will put it on here for you. http://www.davywotton.com/davy-wotton-shad.htm

Ok, For everyone coming to class, we are going to tie the" Convertible" by Scott Sanchez. This is a great fly pattern. I was living in St. Louis at the time tying for Feather-craft and I got the oppertunity to watch him tie this fly in front of me when he came down to the shop one weekend. Of course I had to ask for the fly so I could go home myself and tie some of these up. It was designed for the "One Fly Tournament" in the west. JH MATERIALS Hook: Dai Riki 730 size 8 - 12 Thread: Gudebrod 8/0 rusty brown Body: Superfine cinnamon caddis dubbing Trude wing: calf tail Wings: butts of calf tail Tail: elk mane Hackle: grizzly and brown Legs: medium brown rubber

You know, it's going to be some kind of dry fly. That's the area that we are covering. We tied the crackleback last week and the week before that we tied a huge dry that was actually catching alot of fish at Rim Shoals last week.I have also used it at Taney and it works there just the same. It's one of those flies that work's great on some day's and other day's it might not.But i would sure put it in that fly box before you leave the house .I'm not home right now or I would still be fishing it. It is "Great" for the high water bite as well. Here is a pic I had handy of the fly on my camera I have with me right now. Maybe you can get a idea of how it is tied. It's a simple pattern , not to many steps. If you would like to know more about how to tie it, let me know and I can put the instructions on here. JH www.taneycomotout.com

I would say it's a "Latex" material. You can buy it at Bass Pro. It comes in a smaller package, it's falt and a off yellow color.You can color it with markers to whatever you like. It makes alot of cool patterns and easy to work with. What color was the body? You said it was on a straight shank hook w/ a bead. Jeremy www.taneycomotrout.com I would say it's a "Latex" material. You can buy it at Bass Pro. It comes in a smaller package, it's falt and a off yellow color.You can color it with markers to whatever you like. It makes alot of cool patterns and easy to work with. What color was the body? You said it was on a straight shank hook w/ a bead. Jeremy www.taneycomotrout.com

Hey I heard that. I do sometimes. Were so busy learning that we don't have anytime to do anything else. You see " We call that being in the zone".LOL

Hello Rookie, you asked when do you get to the point to tying, well i would say you are already there if you are already asking. I would tell you to get a tying kit from a shop or online somewhere. Don't be afraid to waste material either. That is what it is there for. Also most kits come with instuctions on how to tie a few patterns to give you some idea about what you need to be doing. We also have "FREE" tying classes here at Lilley's Landing if you ever get up this way to fish Taney. We have them every Tuesday from 7 to 9pm and would like to see you there one day. Oh and if your are like most of us, there will be a time when either you will get tired of buying them or you will want to tie your own. There is a saying in thr fly fishing world. "Half of the satisfaction is fishing and the other half is catching a fish on a fly you tied". Good luck

Along w/ what Brian is saying. We are catching alot of the fish on dry flies up in the fast riffles at Jenkins Creek. They seem to hit best right when it lands or just a little bit after. If you don't get a hit on the floating presentation try to skate it on the swing and let it sink a little bit. We aren't catching any thing big but it is fun to throw dries in the winter time.

Fishing has been steady at Rim Shoals. Mix of fish also. Catching mostly rainbows but a few browns and cutts. I'm not home right now but talked my dad today and he said the water has been running a little more than what the typical pattern has been. But still good fishing all in all. Still fishing "BIG" dries in sizes 2 and 4's. Phil has a picture of this fly so if you would like to see it I am sure he will post it. JH P.S PHil and I are working on getting some great tying patterns on here so I hope this will give you some luck on fish and also help you advance in your tying skills.

I have found that fishing loop wing emergers in a size 18 work real well on Taney. Fish further down stream on the banks down by the public boat ramp. Fish olive and black but for some reason they like olive better. Also try fishing midges on the surface.Twich the rod and watch what hppens. Good luck. JH

I also agree with how tight your wraps are when you do complete the fly. That really makes all the difference. In tying it is all about thread control and how you tie in the material. I also tie two whips because why tie a fly and have it fall apart. I think we all go thru that one. One other thing that I have found that will help your fly last longer is some head finisher called gloss coat. Everybody that has ben able to use this glue never go back to head cement. Some fly shops do not carry it but you can order it thru your local fly shop. It's a Wapsi product. We also have it at Lilley's in stock. Let me tell you why I like it, Most head cements are made to bond into the thread and what happens with that is the water will always win by getting that glue to dissolve in the water. I have found gloss coat to leave a coating around the thread kind of like epoxy. It will take the water alot longer to eat that away beacuse of the way it dries it does not cinch into the thread. And if your a commercial tyer it really makes a great "GLOSS" coat and a nice shine to the fly. I hope you find this to be helpful in your tying because it sure did in mine. See you on the river. JH

Want to say hello to everyone in the Forum that we now have for the Taney area which is very needed. I hope to fish and learn some stuff from everybody. My Question is.. what does anyone know about wind chop and how it can relate to fishing conditions? I would like to touch on this subject because alot of people either don't like to fish in the wind because of casting conditions or because it can just get down right ugly with wind knots etc. What I have found out is that wind chop can be your best friend. It will also make you a better caster because you will have to adjust your cast more often to figure out just how to cast in wind.