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Flood Gates - at Noon! (must read)
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Water is in great shape. No mud. -
Looks like they'll run it for at least 3-4 days. That's with no more rain and no water from Beaver. Dickey said his clients CRUSHED big rainbows this morning on white shad flies below the dam. 20 rainbows in the 16-18 inch range. No monsters yet. If you're heading this way, take advantage of this run, even if you don't like to throw stuff like this. I think you could catch some fish at the boat ramp- shad fly with some weight, may be a 1/4 ounce bell. Steve said they didn't have to get to the bottom- fish were coming up and taking the flies up in the water column.
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Flood Gates - at Noon! (must read)
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
4 is fine. -
Flood Gates - at Noon! (must read)
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
The water isn't coming off the top of the lake - but 10-15 feet down? At least that deep. -
Flood Gates - at Noon! (must read)
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
56 coming over the top, 42 from the 2 units. 53 at Lookout. -
You got it!
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Flood Gates - at Noon! (must read)
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
May be just below the cable above outlet #1 but it'll be a roll cast of bring a spey rod. Lots of sink tip. -
Just Received: I wanted to update you on some things that are happening at Table Rock Dam and releases that will happen later today. During the storms this weekend, we lost a transformer differential and we are in a forced outage (can't generate power) with Units 3 and 4. Since the lake is predicted to crest at 918 msl, we are required to release 15K CFS. We can only pass approximately 7K through Units 1 & 2, so we will be spilling approximately 8K CFS through the spillway beginning sometime around 12:00 today. I'm passing this information on to you as I expect you might get questions from the public/visitors. This would be the same discharge we would have if all 4 Units were running (generating power). I would expect this operation to continue until we get back into our conservation pool. Jim Sandberg Operations Project Manager Table Rock Dam I know this might scare a few people but... historically, I've had some of the best fishing on Taneycomo when the gates are opened in the month of May, which seldom happens. This flow will only be as high as 4 units normally. It's not "flood conditions". Get your white jigs out!!
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http://extra.mdc.mo.gov/documents/area_brochures/9725map.pdf Was driving by the other day and had some extra time so I decided to drive off highway 60 down to Capps Creek to see what was down there. I hadn't really looked at any maps or info on the area so I had no idea what to look for or where to go if I wanted to wet a line. I drove as far as the bridge crossing the creek. The water was covered by trees and brush - not inviting. But I knew there had to be more angler friendly areas to go, but I didn't have that much time to explore. So for the novice you wants to explore Capps Creek, what should we look for? Thread pinned.
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Just wanted to give a report. The rains have changed things up a bit. They're running 2 units 24 hours a day now. That much better than 3 or 4 units. Table Rock has jumped up 1.5 feet and probably will go may be 6 inches higher. Beaver on the other hand has really gone up and that water will have to pass through Table Rock at some point. As things stand now, I think 2 units 24 hours a day will stabilize Table Rock for now but another rain may mean heavier generation. Yesterday was tough fishing for everyone. When the water temp goes from the 50's and 60's down to 43 the trout don't like it. Seems to put them in a trance. If they bite it's real short and fast. But they'll snap out of it. Today should be better.
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I'd say generation, hopefully just moderate, for most of the time. But with more rain in the forecast... we may see heavy flows.
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I've heard of ONE person getting out of a similar situation with white bass on Bull Shoals years ago but I wouldn't recommend it. Clean the fish, store them then go back out after midnight.
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I pinned this topic Should help you out. Any other explanations- just add them to the pinned topic.
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Another member alerted me to the news. Searching his name, I only see who handled the funeral arrangements. I will follow up next week and see if I can get any other information. It would be nice if we can find out there's a memorial fund we could give to.
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Wayne SW/MO passed away on April 25th. George Wayne Kirtley lived in Rockaway Beach, Missouri and had been a member since the forum's creation. I didn't know Wayne well but he did fish a few of our trout tournaments over the years. His posts will be missed.
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Made my move to California
Phil Lilley replied to dennis boatman's topic in U.S.A. - South & West Regions
You moved out there or vacationing? -
Are any of these from Taney?
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I love this! Thanks
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We fished out of Bridgeport Resort. Daytime fishing was off. Couldn't find the shad. Water temp is cool for May and the lake just jumped up. The only fish we could find was under lights at night. Fished tied up to the Roosevelt Bridge. Used ghost minnows just strung on a hook 30 feet deep. Caught mostly small stripers, one sand bass and a golden eye herring (cool fish!). But did catch a few big ones. Nice to get away- great weather. Good friends.
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Took some pics yesterday of trout I caught. Used the Photarium. Here's a rainbow and a brown. Note the differences... I love the translucence of the tails. Never noticed it before. One is s fresh stocker, one has been in the lake for a while. Can you tell the difference?
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There's been very little generation on Lake Taneycomo for three full days now. This does one thing to at least the upper lake here -- it warms up the water. Daytime temperatures have been in the upper 60's to upper 70's and sunny, so the surface water temperature here at our dock is now is 56.6 degrees, up from 43 when the water runs. Our trout really like water temperatures in this range and are more active. Boat traffic is also kicking up silt from the bottom, and the water is cloudy, which is also good for fishing. We saw some nice stringers come in Saturday afternoon, proving my point. When will dam operators run water again? It never fails that when I write a fishing report, things change. They're running a little water this evening -- right now. The lake levels are below power pool, but there's rain in the forecast. If we get a bunch, look for more generation. Our bugs like the warmer water, too. Midges and mayflies, scuds and sow bugs all live better in this water versus 40-degree water. Again, this makes our trout more active, feeding more aggressively during the day. A gentleman told me Saturday, after fishing most of this week, that the size of rainbows he and his buddy caught on average were bigger than in years past. I've heard this a lot this winter/spring. One of them caught a 3.5-pound rainbow close to the U.S. 65 Highway bridge on a marabou jig (released). Rainbows I've been catching in our area of the lake have been bigger than normal as well as all colored up as if they've been in the lake for a while. That's a very good sign that the food base in the lake is healthy. We've had huge midge hatches this past week, mainly early in the mornings and late in the evenings. The last few weeks, I've suggested using a jig-and-float rig plus a zebra midge dropper. I even made a short video showing how to rig up and fish with this combo. We're finding balls of black midges in the bellies of rainbows caught this week, signs that they're targeting midge larva that are swimming up from the bottom to the surface to hatch. That's why these zebra midges are so hot right now. With our clear water, two-pound test is a must. I use Vanish, but Trilene XL Green is a good line, too. Marabou jigs remain very hot. Best colors are mottled brown (mb), mb/ginger, sculpin/orange -- both with either orange or brown head. Jig weight depends on a variety of things. With water not running and very little wind, use 1/16th or 3/32nd-ounce (two-pound line). If there's wind and/or you are using four-pound line, use 3/32nd or 1/8th ounce. With the water running slightly and two-pound line, use 3/32nd- or 1/8th-ounce. With water running more than one unit, use 1/8th ounce. In using jig-and-float, use a ginger or sculpin micro jig or a 1/50th-ounce brown, brown/orange, sculpin or mb with an orange head. Then drop a #14 black zebra midge below it, two-pound or 6x tippet line, 10 inches from the jig. The depth between the float and the first jig depends on where the trout are holding and on the depth of water. I'd start at four feet and go deeper if you don't get bit. I've been fishing the stretch between the old Sun Valley down to our place and staying from the middle to inside bend of the lake. Morning and evening are the best times, but if there's a good chop on the surface and/or cloudy skies, any time can be good. Air-injected night crawlers are catching some really nice rainbows in the Short Creek area as well as around Monkey Island. They're also hitting Gulp Eggs in white/pink and chartreuse/garlic Powerbait. Below the dam, wading with the water off, between outlets #1 and #2, the white mega worm did well for Duane Saturday morning, as well as a #14 UV tan scud and a #16 black zebra. His crew then dropped down to the old KOA (Trophy Run) and stripped #10 Pine Squirrels in olive or sculpin and did okay. He said there wasn't much chop on the surface but did well on the mega worm again. One guy did really well using a 1/125th-ounce sculpin/ginger jig under a float 24 inches deep. The forecast for the month of May is . . . more of the same. The only thing that could change, and probably will, is generation patterns. We surely will get some rain and, in turn. the U.S. Corps of Army Engineers will run more water.