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Everything posted by Phil Lilley
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None- he was kidding.
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Mine. Lilleys. We carry all the colors I think. Thanks for the great report. Isn't it great fishing!!?? These rainbows have shot up past 20 inches this year. We're finding them all over the lake right now. Had one to the boat this am below Lookout - about 5 pounds. Gonna have to get up and night fish real soon.
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I could have fixed that.
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In Arkansas for instance, it's illegal to disturb the stream bottom for the purpose of attracting fish to catch. I think I have that right.
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I had to video this guy. He needed some instruction on how to shuffle - well at least manage his line, as we fly fishermen say. <object width="500" height="405"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"></embed></object>
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It was a event. About 200 people showed to fish in the pond for hybrid blue gill (the catfish didn't bite). MDC cut a lot of the cool exhibits- especially the simulated stream bed which I think it very educational. Not many even stopped at the tents - just went fishing. But it was good fishing for the first hour- then they shut down (the fish).
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Water Release For Fathers Day Weekend
Phil Lilley replied to kc outdoorsman's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
At the top of each page here on the forum is a link to SPA Generation Schedule. There- you will find the schedule. Early and late- best times. -
The Oil Spill, Who Is Really At Fault?
Phil Lilley replied to jdmidwest's topic in Conservation Issues
Good discussion- thanks for keeping it respectful. I agree with smallie - we should concentrate on cleaning it up and quit playing the blame game. Media plays the drama card far too often. And we all get caught up in it. -
Cut prices down. I WILL sell these benches. Next stop- EBAY.
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The ramp was poured short so you can't back a trailer in without backing it off the edge. No way to fix it really without spending a ton of money. They may fix it, seeing how much $$$ they've spent on the back work and dock. Who knows. On another note: They painted the doors on the dock shop navy blue. Colors were nice till they did that. Now . . . well it clashes real bad. Must have been a guy who picked out the color- color blind no less.
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There's been a dock at Fall Creek for as long as I can remember. Don't think it will cause problems. Closest ramp would be Cooper Creek or the dam. The ramp there is closed.
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Yea- it's a very expensively built dock. But not practical. The deck is almost 3 feet off the water's surface. The floatation is too thick. I assume they're going to do something with the metal dividers in the middle of the double stalls cause most boats will float underneath them they're so far above the water and no padding - ouch! The bait shop looks first class with a big cleaning room but they're going to have issues with the long drain pipe - it's only a 3-inch pipe. It's going to get clogged with fish pretty quickly. Ours is 4 inch- straight down and it gets clogged. Their line run horizontal about 15 feet. The landscape and walkway is first class too. They spent a lot of money there. They aren't letting anyone on the dock until it's 100% done which should be pretty soon.
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I like catching big fish just as much as the next fellow but stopped using sculpins because I killed too many fish. Anything that would help mortality would be great!
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Sounds like you have a lot of good times ahead of you . . . fishing with grandkids! I have one of those myself!! Welcome.
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Funny . . . glad you remembered your password! Welcome back!
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If you're catching the fish deep and not fizzing them (releasing air), that might be a problem. Most of the time it's low O2 I'd think. They make additives for livewells to help. What was the temp of the water you're fishing? Ice helps too.
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Will add . . . big browns eat a lot of rainbows. Mostly dead or dying ones caught and released by fisherman. They also visit fish cleaning areas at night. The article is right on.
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There's quite a bit I could add to this for catching browns on dead bait but I won't. Here's why. I used to use dead bait to catch browns and was quite successful at catching . . . and killing a lot of browns. When fishing dead bait, you fish it dead in the water and let the fish take the bait. You have to use pretty big hooks when using dead bait and almost every time, the fish takes it deep. I found the mortality rate to be very high regardless how careful I was handling the fish, even leaving the hook in the fish. So I stopped fishing this way years ago and have not promoted it since. I'm not condemning this article or anyone who fish's dead bait, please don't get me wrong. I'm sure there are ways to fish dead bait without killing as many fish although the mortality rate is about 20% under the best conditions using bait and I do use bait for rainbows when I'm guiding occasionally. I'm just sharing my experience. Nice to see you back, MOCarp! It's been along time - missed you carp reports! How was sucker grabbing for you this season?
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Float size- not really. Whatever you like using. But I try to use enough to float any thing I'm using whether it's a jig or fly but only enough to keep it up. I like it to go under when I get a bite although that's not always possible. They take it pretty softly sometimes.
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Thanks for posting the wrap up!
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Smallmouth bass daily limit is two and each must be at least 14 inches long to keep. From confluence with Clabber Creek downstream to the confluence with the White River, smallmouth bass daily limit is 1 and must be at least 18 inches or longer to keep. Outboard motors may not be used on the Buffalo River upstream from Erbie Ford, nor larger than 10 horsepower from Erbie to the White River. Daily Limits Rock Bass - 10 Largemouth, spotted, *smallmouth - 10 *note special rules Catfish - 10 Bluegill, redear, longear, warmouth and other sunfishes combined - 10 Missing anything?
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SWPA totally lied on their schedule this morning--shouldn't be surprised but disappointed. They're running 2 units this morning but at less than one unit water level - 704 feet. Never shut it down last night. Was going up to the dam to get a fishing report this morning. So don't make any special trips down (or up) to the tailwater to wade till they show us they're gonna leave it off when they state they are.
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Generation patterns seem to be set in. Water has been shutting down late in the evening from 9 to 11 pm and back on the next day from 2 to 3 pm. The amount of water they're running changes, though, each day, any where from one to four units. When the water comes on, the fish are eating but you have to deal with moss breaking loose and flowing for the first hour or so. Man, fishing continues to be very good. I hold back saying excellent because excellent means EVERYONE is catching fish and that's never the case. But if you follow my advise to the teeth, you will do well. First, your equipment is important. Have to use something that can use 4-pound line. A lot of closed face reels don't do well using light line. Four-pound line is a must. Being able to cast it at least 50-feet is another must. If you can't and you're drifting, drop the line over the side and let line out till the bait is out there and bumping the bottom consistently. I took some friends fishing yesterday. Started about 3 pm - the water wasn't running at first so we fished night crawlers, anchoring out in front of the Riverpointe Estates boat ramp in the middle of the lake. Pumped a little air in the worm to float it off the bottom with a split shot about 18-inches from the hook, a #8 short shanked, bronze hook. That floats the worm about 18-inches off the bottom. We caught a few rainbows but with no wind and high sun, they weren't too interested. Talked to Steve Dickey, he said they were doing well using a 1/256th oz olive micro jig under a float 6 feet deep just up from where we were so we changed locations and technique and sure enough, he was right. They hit a tan micro too. Had to tie on a piece of 2-pound Vanish tippet because the water is so clear right now. They didn't waste any time eating the jig. The Corp only gave us about 20 minutes of no generation but they kept catching rainbows till the moss got too bad. So we switched back to night crawlers, and yes, they liked the worms! No need to inject air when the water is running. My friends ended up landing four rainbows over 17 inches with the others less than 15 inches. Nice trout! I have not been up below the dam yet with no generation but I would imagine it's pretty good. Haven't had any real good, detailed reports on the forum either . . . I'm sure we've had some members fishing up there. I guess they don't want to brag too much about the fishing, drawing more anglers to their honey holes. Sorry, had to jab a little. Fly fishing from a boat in the trophy area is really, really good. Micros under a float - olive or tan. Midge patterns are pretty good but scuds are the best fly going. I reported seeing lots and lots of scuds after dragging an anchor in the gravel up there and that's what they're eating. I've been using either a beaded, silver/gray scud under a float or a scud using a tiny split shot. Number 14's or 16's if water is off and #12's or #14's if it's running. I got out this evening and threw a white jig for a while. One unit running - very nice flow. Caught a few rainbows but they didn't seem real excited about my offer. Not much in the way of surface action but did try a soft hackle- no results. So I tied on a #14 silver/gray scud and drifted the shallow side of the lake over the flats at the narrows a few times and caught nice rainbows each time I made the drift. My trolling motor went out on me again but that didn't hurt me too bad. Back to bait fishing below Fall Creek - I didn't mention using any Power Bait. Rainbows are still hitting Gulp and regular PB is paste or eggs. Pink seems to be the best color lately. Use 4-pound line for best results.
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Bring it on! I mean down.
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Oh . . . tools in the pics are NOT included. Pics are from the Oasis site.
