Phil Lilley

For the record... I wouldn't change a thing, especially Terry Beeson and MrsDucky. When I said "more" I meant additional, add-to... more and more. Not to stop one thing and start another. Emails- written word- can be misconstrued at times... hopefully I've made myself clear.

You gotta see these flies... http://flytyingforum.com/?act=special&...ntest_votefinal Pretty impressive stuff. And we're supposed to voted on one!??!?

There are all kinds of people on the forum- those who read, those who read and write... some like the bantering and some don't... some skip over it, ignore it... and then there are some that won't come back because they REALLY don't like it. "This is a fishing forum, not a funny farm!" Well, I am not going to put controls on the forum or suggesting what people write as long as they obey the rules. Not saying you're suggesting that but I appreciate your comments. I think everyone would like to see more constructive conversation... more fishing experiences and ideas... and a whole lot more reports!! Come on spring! But if you listen to Bill Babler, you should be fishing right now!

Care to share how you caught your fish? The boat sticking up out of the water is alittle un nerving... I wonder if the accident had been reported? If it was, the boat would have been removed, at least by MWP. Thanks!

Well- need to know a few details... Boat or Wade? That's the main question. There are some articles that cover both on this site. We can probably add some to it.

Have a great day guys!!

The guys I've talked to have found crappie on the mud flats in 10 to 18 feet of water close to the bottom and using swimming minnows. One guy said he was catching them on flesh colored sm's with a yellow jig head- said they wouldn't hit it unless it was yellow. Wierd. That was up Long Creek.

Lower lake near the dam. Towards Long Creek Bridge.

I'd like to delete the blue skin but it might short-circut the whole board... I hold my breath everytime I change something in the skins. I'm no programmer. Anyone else? It's easy for me to change your skin if you let me know. Once I change it, I think you can change it to whatever you want- just don't go back to the blue or you'll be stuck again.

I thought it was a respectful show of people... at least compared to previous meetings. We had about 25 there. Dan and his wife, Steve Smith, Leonard and DD. Mike Kruse did his presentation on their plan for Missouri's trout program. It was interesting. I'm going to try to get the outline and post it on OA. After Mike was done, Phil Surratt, the president of the chapter, talked to the group about where the chapter was going to go from here. Long story short is they elected a president (sorry but I didn't know him and didn't get a name but he's from Forsyth), a vice pres which is our very own Duckydoty and Carolyn from River Run was picked as Sec/Treasurer. There were about 10 who stayed afterward and expressed interest in being on the board, myself, Dan and Leonard were present. We're meeting in 2 weeks to discuss a plan of action.

Now that you mentioned it, I've had the same thing happen. Sorry- this one is probably out of my admin range.

In doing alittle editing to the skins, I accidentally changed the default skin. I didn't notice cause I use this one by choice. Sorry about that- purely unintentional. If you don't like it, you can change you skins- there's a pull down bar at the bottom left of the page. Flysmallie said something that concerns me- he said he was stuck on the old blue default skin. I checked and everything is in order on his profile- default skin. Is there anyone else on the blue skin? I do need to dress up the other skins- logo and extra stuff. Takes time and I haven't made time for it- sorry.

I've got a dozen in each color here... just the start. We can add colors as we go but these are popular colors in our shop. Costs- $10.25 ... ($11.13 with sales tax) Ship - $1.75 ... ($12.00 non Missouri residents, $12.82 Mo residents) Mo residents add 8% sales tax (.82) To order with a credit card, call our office at 1-800-284-2196. Or send a check to: Lilleys' Landing 367 River Ln Branson, MO 65616 Or come by the shop and say you're a OAF member. All hats have this adjustable clip in the back. Very good quality hat.

Minnows. They've been catching alot of trout, esp browns.

I ran a Landau 18' semi-v with a 90 hp Monday- with the water they've been running, no problem. But you do have to watch where you're going. There are shallow areas and they can drop the levels quickly.

http://hipwader.com/2006/gr-pike-fishing-fly-pattern Rob O'Reilly, owner of http://hipwader.com, sent me this link, thinking I'd be interested. I am! How many times have you been on a river or lake and seen gar cruising, sitting or sipping the surface and think nothing about fishing for them? I haven't really but have hooked them by accident- they are a hoot to land! So why not target them! Would be something different- and who knows, you might enjoy it.

Everybody all together now... "How big was it??" It was way too nice for me to get out and fish... come on!

John, you've already done a lot of us. Thanks. If you want to write, write and send it to me. Pics always are nice but essential. Write on what? Anything that has to do with fishing or the outdoors. Jim reminded me today that we had over 117,000 visitors here on OA last year- that means you'll be read by a lot of interested people!

Yes it is.

I will say that of all the shad I've seen coming from any dam, most, if not all, are still alive and kickin'.

First of all it's natural... not sure I know for sure but I think it's the temp of the water. The fittest live and the oldest die?? It's not low DO- it's the highest in the winter. Cold water temps. That's my final answer.

While fishing with Gabe Cross a couple of years ago below the Norfork Dam, he had Randy Waggoner, a friend who was on the trip with me, use a san juan under an indicator 8-9 feet deep, large indicator and split shot to keep it down, and he fished it real close to the boat. Guides on the White tend to run their motors all the time, I'm sure to keep the boat in line to where they want to drift- instead of a trolling motor. I'd think this would spook fish- a trolling motor is bad enough. But Randy was successful at catching fish... but not half as successful as I was throwing a white jig. I'm tellin' you guys... learn how to work a jig and you'll catch more fish!! Anywhere- for every kind of fish.

A big school of shad in Table Rock has to swim next to the dam 130 feet deep, or a big school of dead shad or dying shad has to drift 130 feet deep next to Table Rock Dam and get sucked into the intake line. There have been winters that we'd see thread fin shad dead all over Table Rock but none in coming into Taney. You just can't pinned an exact science on this... it's a fluke at best. Bull Shoals and Norfork have more shad runs, I believe, because the intake is not as deep at those dams- the dams are not as high. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for posting on the Finley. Charlie Farmer can't be happy about any attention put forth on his favorite stream... unless it's to clean it up. Sorry- I think of Farmer every time the Finley is mentioned. In mapping the Finley, I found out some things about it... it's very long- alot longer and more fishable waters than most people know. I do want to fish it this spring, if time allows. And RD- you posted in the right place... but next time you should start your post under the Finley River Forum if you want to share any more of your secrets

Starts at 7 p.m. Jeremy usually has materials to what you will tie but you'll need to bring a vise and tools. He does have extras though. Fishing? Not sure.